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2014/01/20 05:53:52
Subject: Re:Is GW retreating from all non-English markets?
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It'd be funny if GW actually used Google translate.
And on the last line, how did a tiger get in there? Paruparo means butterfly and tiger in Tagalog is.... "tigre". So WTF Google translate.
2014/01/20 06:39:55
Subject: Is GW retreating from all non-English markets?
I don't think GW are retreating out of non-English markets. They're certainly shrinking their corporate side of things and withdrawing their business aspects towards England, but the market is the same.
Kroothawk wrote: So you think the digital market is also for non-English speakers, as long as they buy products they can't read
They are merly focusing on what they think will bring in the largest profit while cutting costs and translators cost money, for GW it makes perfect sense, but then consider this GW consider throwing S&D letters at online fans whom are providing GW free advertisment and hype their products as a good idea, aswell making the hobby so expensive that young folks cant even afford a starting army.
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2014/01/20 12:26:52
Subject: Is GW retreating from all non-English markets?
GW has never really been present in Denmark. There have only ever been one official store here, and it is located in the capital, and I have never seen it. The hobby is doing just fine without their official involvement, so that might be something they are counting on is the case in other countries as well.
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I was at a GW in Tokyo at Christmas time. They are actually expanding there and just opened a new store. Maybe it's just that Japanese people are already keen on this sort of thing (eg: Gunpla).
Someone may have already noted that it's very difficult to translate a rules system that relies so greatly on intricate wordings in the English language. In japan they only have about 5 40k armies because it takes so long to translate the codex's.
2014/01/20 13:27:56
Subject: Is GW retreating from all non-English markets?
Bonde wrote: GW has never really been present in Denmark. There have only ever been one official store here, and it is located in the capital, and I have never seen it. The hobby is doing just fine without their official involvement, so that might be something they are counting on is the case in other countries as well.
Maybe you Danish dynamite people are a bit special?
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Low_K wrote: Bad advertising for the fluency of English in the Netherlands. I think Dennis Ernst needs some more schooling (EDIT: It seems that Dennis Ernst is the manager of GW South Amsterdam.... )
I didn't know the shop closed, this must be the Rokin one. Luckily for Dennis and Ernst GW opens two new shops in Amsterdam West AND south. Strange tactics, guess the Rokin one became too expensive rent-wise (although I believe Rozengracht isn't cheap either, let alone paying rent for two shops).
Yeah, when the Rokin maintenance was done the rent become way too high, the building also was in a fairly dire state of repairs. I'm sure the staff is glad to have relocated.
2014/01/21 00:27:57
Subject: Is GW retreating from all non-English markets?
Kroothawk wrote: Reduced support for non-English markets is something, that not only affects the customers in those countries, but also eventually the GW staff there. First it will hit the retail staff that will have more and more difficulties to meet the sales targets to keep their jobs/shops. Finally it will meet the HQ staff in each non-English country. So GW's aggressive shrinking policy will cost jobs of people not responsible for the absurd mistakes by higher management in Nottingham. GW, being a strict streamlined yes-company with no feedback allowed, makes it difficult for staff to express their concern, but fear for their jobs will eventually motivate them to try. This is something we should support.
This, there are issues in the Dutch part of GW where at least some of the retail staff have difficulties with the management in England. The North European section (Flanders, Netherlands, Nordic countries and iirc Poland) already reports directly to the UKHQ. From what I have heard training methods don't really carry over well due to cultural differences and middle management has little to offer (short of threats) in terms of support when sales do not meet their expectations.
From my local GW manager I heard that the school program flopped abroad because the management in England assumed Warhammer had the same brand awareness on the continent and so they didn't allocate any advertising budget. School staff weren't very interested and in general expect toys and merchandise to be sent as free promo material. Nottingham in turn freaked out at the concept of free stuff.
I'm not sure if a single European HQ is very practical if it has to service several different markets, particularly if located in a provincial town in the Midlands.
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2014/01/21 12:00:06
Subject: Re:Is GW retreating from all non-English markets?
GW always had a tendency to force its specific cultural approach on other HQs led by straw puppets (e.g. USA and Germany, the latter led by a Belgian). Didn't work very good. Now this clash of cultural approaches will worsen with GW retracting to its bunker. Which in turn will lead to even more sinking sales. Too bad that the people responsible for all this are in a position to fire everybody else.
Kavish wrote: IIRC it's Space Marines, Necron's, Eldar, Tau, and Chaos Space Marines.
How did they explain the alien miniatures in the 4th edition, the green miniatures in the last and the hooded miniatures in the present starter box then?
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Kavish wrote: IIRC it's Space Marines, Necron's, Eldar, Tau, and Chaos Space Marines.
How did they explain the alien miniatures in the 4th edition, the green miniatures in the last and the hooded miniatures in the present starter box then?
Freebies to allow you to learn the rules as a springboard into the H-H-H-obby of Buying (TM) one of the 5 armies they offer translations for?
That's how I'd spin it anyway.....
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2014/01/21 14:15:47
Subject: Is GW retreating from all non-English markets?
Kavish wrote: IIRC it's Space Marines, Necron's, Eldar, Tau, and Chaos Space Marines.
How did they explain the alien miniatures in the 4th edition, the green miniatures in the last and the hooded miniatures in the present starter box then?
The green ones were presented as giant intelligent warlike fungi that create technology by believing in it, left over from a galactic war billions of years ago.
From GW's current release (or preorder) list, the following are English only:
Death from the Skies, Farsight, Black Legion, special edition main rulebook, all of the limited editions, and strangely enough Space Marines.
Non-special edition rulebook, Blood Angels, Chaos Space Marines, Chaos Daemons, Dark Eldar, Eldar, Grey Knights, Imperial Guard, Orks, Space Wolves, Tau, and Tyranids all have Japanese codex releases.
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