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Does anybody know of a website that sells black primer for relatively good price ie not £10.00 like games workshop I used to order army painter from triplehelix for £6.00 but they have informed me due to Royal Mail updating thier rules they can no longer post aerosols.

I have found several shops in my local town that sell plastikote primer but I'm not sure whether its any good or suitable for minis. I have bought halfords white primer and that does seem rather good compared to gw's primer but I really need a black.

I have checked my local B&Q and they sell this but it's still £8.00

http://www.diy.com/nav/decor/paint-woodcare/specialist-paints/spray_paint/Plasti-Kote-Super-Spray-Primer-Black-400ml-9254058?skuId=9261757

Do the undercoats specifically have to be a "primer" or will any matt black spray do the trick?

Thanks in advance

A primer coat needs to be primer - primer is chemically different than normal paint - designed to adhere to your model, and designed to allow other paint to stick to it.
(if your primer is also the same color as your base model color, what you might be calling "undercoat" thats just a bonus).

I use the rustolem 2x cover primer from the hardware store here in the colonies, but I could not seem to find it from any uk supplier.

Hopefully someone else more familiar with your region might be more useful....

I know a lot of the guys in the UK swear by Halford's primer. I personally use Krylon black primer and have no problems at all.

Thanks for the help guys I'm not sure i can get krylon in the uk, unfortunately I don't think halfords do a black primer

I promise you, Halfords do a black primer!
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_158519_langId_-1_categoryId_165495#tab4

Ok, not strictly defined as a primer, but them the GW Chaos Black isn't strictly a primer either. This will do the job though.

Wayland games Sells colour primers from montana for about £6.

 azreal13 wrote:
I promise you, Halfords do a black primer!
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_158519_langId_-1_categoryId_165495#tab4

Ok, not strictly defined as a primer, but them the GW Chaos Black isn't strictly a primer either. This will do the job though.

Have you used this yourself?


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 sing your life wrote:
Wayland games Sells colour primers from montana for about £6.

Thanks for the help but they also want to charge £6.00 delivery as Royal Mail are crap and don't take sprays anymore :(

kelewan wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:
I promise you, Halfords do a black primer!
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_158519_langId_-1_categoryId_165495#tab4

Ok, not strictly defined as a primer, but them the GW Chaos Black isn't strictly a primer either. This will do the job though.

Have you used this yourself?

Not in a looong time, as I do most of my priming with an airbrush these days, but yes, back in the day. Its a can of matt black spray acrylic, you can overthink these things a bit too much, try it on a test model, if for some bizarre reason its not good, move on, we aren't talking gold bullion here!

Krylon is the best I've found. I read that you didn't know if you could find Krylon in the UK though.

Plastikote will do the job but in my experience for the quality vs price you might as well buy GW.

 War&Pieces wrote:
Plastikote will do the job but in my experience for the quality vs price you might as well buy GW.

I take it plastikote is a bit rubbish

kelewan wrote:

 War&Pieces wrote:
Plastikote will do the job but in my experience for the quality vs price you might as well buy GW.

I take it plastikote is a bit rubbish

It's not great. It's glossy and smelly. It will prime and paint over just fine but not value for money in my opinion.

I was going to suggest the Wal-mart primers but you [and I] live in the wrong country.

Bought some black sprays paint from halfords it was awful glad I had a test mini, I'm going to give in and buy some army painter from ebay

I don't know if you've used Army Painter before or not, but I've run in to so many problems with Army Painter I generally don't use considering Army Painter is.. What? All of a quid cheaper than GW? I would actually recommend GW for black primer waaayyyy over Army Painter.

 War&Pieces wrote:
I don't know if you've used Army Painter before or not, but I've run in to so many problems with Army Painter I generally don't use considering Army Painter is.. What? All of a quid cheaper than GW? I would actually recommend GW for black primer waaayyyy over Army Painter.

Army Painter primer needs a fair bit of practice: you need to do it indoors, and spray close, about 6 inches. With practice, I've found the skeleton bone gives really good results - it's still not as thin as the GW white primer, though, when seems to get into nooks and crannies really well, perhaps ti's smaller paint particles. There are some AP primers, yellow in particular which are no good at all. I've only tried GW, AP, tamiya and humbrol sprays recetnly, and I haven't tried the AP black, but it's hard to argue against GW, which does give really good coverage and has to be worth the investment considering the cost if you mess up .

 War&Pieces wrote:

kelewan wrote:

 War&Pieces wrote:
Plastikote will do the job but in my experience for the quality vs price you might as well buy GW.

I take it plastikote is a bit rubbish

It's not great. It's glossy and smelly. It will prime and paint over just fine but not value for money in my opinion.

It can be a bit pants sometimes - you need to make sure you are not getting the enamal sprays as well. I used to use it all the time until I got back into Halfords sprays.

 SilverMK2 wrote:

 War&Pieces wrote:

kelewan wrote:

 War&Pieces wrote:
Plastikote will do the job but in my experience for the quality vs price you might as well buy GW.

I take it plastikote is a bit rubbish

It's not great. It's glossy and smelly. It will prime and paint over just fine but not value for money in my opinion.

It can be a bit pants sometimes - you need to make sure you are not getting the enamal sprays as well. I used to use it all the time until I got back into Halfords sprays.

Which halfords black spray do you use?, I bought one today a new type artfx I think it's called or something thought I'd give it a bash and it left a stippled effect and came off easily

kelewan wrote:
Which halfords black spray do you use?, I bought one today a new type artfx I think it's called or something thought I'd give it a bash and it left a stippled effect and came off easily

I only undercoat in grey or white unfortunately, so I do not use their black.

kelewan wrote:

 SilverMK2 wrote:

 War&Pieces wrote:

kelewan wrote:

 War&Pieces wrote:
Plastikote will do the job but in my experience for the quality vs price you might as well buy GW.

I take it plastikote is a bit rubbish

It's not great. It's glossy and smelly. It will prime and paint over just fine but not value for money in my opinion.

It can be a bit pants sometimes - you need to make sure you are not getting the enamal sprays as well. I used to use it all the time until I got back into Halfords sprays.

Which halfords black spray do you use?, I bought one today a new type artfx I think it's called or something thought I'd give it a bash and it left a stippled effect and came off easily

Well, I can see Artfx is wrong purely by virtue of the fact it states it has a satin finish.

Matt is almost compulsory for a primer, anything with a smooth finish, be it satin or gloss, is no good for a primer in basically all applications.

 azreal13 wrote:

kelewan wrote:

 SilverMK2 wrote:

 War&Pieces wrote:

kelewan wrote:

 War&Pieces wrote:
Plastikote will do the job but in my experience for the quality vs price you might as well buy GW.

I take it plastikote is a bit rubbish

It's not great. It's glossy and smelly. It will prime and paint over just fine but not value for money in my opinion.

It can be a bit pants sometimes - you need to make sure you are not getting the enamal sprays as well. I used to use it all the time until I got back into Halfords sprays.

Which halfords black spray do you use?, I bought one today a new type artfx I think it's called or something thought I'd give it a bash and it left a stippled effect and came off easily

Well, I can see Artfx is wrong purely by virtue of the fact it states it has a satin finish.

Matt is almost compulsory for a primer, anything with a smooth finish, be it satin or gloss, is no good for a primer in basically all applications.

I bought the matt finish one, still did a pants job