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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/22 06:08:22
Subject: IRON HANDS AIR FORCE 2K
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Though this would be a fun list. Using IRON hands Chapter Tactics
--HQ--
Master of the Forge -- 140
Servator x 5
Master of the Forge -- 140
Servator x 5
Techmarine - 100
Servator - 50
---Troops---
Tactical Squad - 215
CombiMelta
Melta
LasCannon
5 extra Tacs
Drop Pod
Tactical Squad - 215
CombiMelta
Melta
LasCannon
5 extra Tacs
Drop Pod
Tactical Squad - 215
CombiMelta
Melta
LasCannon
5 extra Tacs
Drop Pod
---Fast Attack---
Storm Talon - 125
Sky Hammer
Storm Talon - 125
Sky Hammer
Storm Talon - 125
Sky Hammer
---Heavy Support---
Storm Raven -- 200
Storm Raven -- 200
Storm Raven -- 200
Masters of the Forge and the Tech Marines fly in the storm Ravens. Tacs combat squad so the heavy weapon is sitting behind the agis and the rest drop in.
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Why would you deep strike a lander raider?
Because i can and hey it worked didn't it?
BA-4k+ Gaurd 4K+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/22 06:14:51
Subject: IRON HANDS AIR FORCE 2K
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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Cool. Sounds like alot of fun, but who would have the money for such a crazy list?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/22 06:21:05
Subject: IRON HANDS AIR FORCE 2K
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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hehe not me.
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Why would you deep strike a lander raider?
Because i can and hey it worked didn't it?
BA-4k+ Gaurd 4K+
Tau 4k+ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/22 18:20:41
Subject: Re:IRON HANDS AIR FORCE 2K
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Bounding Dark Angels Assault Marine
Memphis,TN
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Why 5 servitors on the motfs you have a 3+ already give them each one and the other tech enough for a 2+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/22 18:25:12
Subject: IRON HANDS AIR FORCE 2K
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I actually played against a guy at WGC this year who did exactly this with the old SM 'dex and the DA'dex.
The list looks nifty! Are the Stormtalons going to be escorting the Stormravens?
Lucarikx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/22 21:07:34
Subject: IRON HANDS AIR FORCE 2K
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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I've come up with a very similar list but adjusted it a bit to also take advantage of the awsomeness of the grav bikers and a hard as nails chap master. Originally I was thinking of MoF in ravens but realised I didn't want to pay 90pts for a 3+ recovery hitpoint, especially when I have 6 flyers anyway.
Here's the list I was going to run after heavy investment:
(Iron Hands CT)
HQ
Chap Master
Bike, Artificier Armour, Powerfist, Shield Eternal, Auspex, digital weapons.
260
Troops
Bike squad (5)
2 grav guns, Combi-grav
145
Bike squad (5)
2 grav guns, Combi-grav
145
Bike squad (5)
2 grav guns, Combi-grav
145
Bike squad (5)
2 grav guns, Combi-grav
145
Scouts (5)
Snipers
60
Scouts (5)
Bolters
55
Fast Attack
Stormtalon
Skyhammer
140
Stormtalon
Skyhammer
140
Stormtalon
Skyhammer
140
Heavy Support
Stormraven
Assault cannon, multimelta
200
Stormraven
Assault cannon, multimelta
200
Stormraven
Assault cannon, multimelta
200
Fortifications
Agis
Comms relay
70
Total: 2000
6 flyers yet still 6 Troops for scoring, but was thinking of maybe dropping a scout squad for hurricane bolter sponsoons on 2 of the ravens for more dakka. What do you think?
P.s. As Jpat says - no point in those exta servitors!
Love your list though!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/23 00:13:21
Subject: Re:IRON HANDS AIR FORCE 2K
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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Jpat1213 wrote:Why 5 servitors on the motfs you have a 3+ already give them each one and the other tech enough for a 2+
he needs them to take the wounds for when they crash and burn. 6 models, 6 str 10 or 9? hits, 5 INSTANT death wounds average. the servitors die, warlord lives.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/24 12:02:59
Subject: Re:IRON HANDS AIR FORCE 2K
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Largeblastmarker wrote:Jpat1213 wrote:Why 5 servitors on the motfs you have a 3+ already give them each one and the other tech enough for a 2+
he needs them to take the wounds for when they crash and burn. 6 models, 6 str 10 or 9? hits, 5 INSTANT death wounds average. the servitors die, warlord lives.
True Statement. Automatically Appended Next Post: And Poly i Feel the marines with drop pods is more effective and here is why. Las Cannons lay down fire while the Tacs pop in and shoot em up. if i need to i can keep them all together or split them up. i still effectively have 6 groups for scoring. or 3 harder to kill troops. Automatically Appended Next Post: of course honestly i don't have the money to build this. Just thought it was a fun idea.
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Why would you deep strike a lander raider?
Because i can and hey it worked didn't it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/24 15:31:00
Subject: Re:IRON HANDS AIR FORCE 2K
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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I would drop the tech marine for Hurricane Bolters on the stormravens. More dakka. I need one more stormraven for this and have been wanting to do it since the book came out.
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Chaos: 6500pts
Imperium: 2500pts
Orks: 1000pts
AoS Chaos 3000pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/24 16:03:09
Subject: IRON HANDS AIR FORCE 2K
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Been Around the Block
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I think pretty much everyone saw storm ravens in the heavy and talons in the fast and thought, 6 flyer list
At least they didn't make the raven dedicated transport for anyone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/24 17:14:43
Subject: IRON HANDS AIR FORCE 2K
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Yeh its insane. Anyone missing it would kick themselves when realising.
Yeh i thought drop pods at first but after reading up on grav bikers I thought Id prefer 36 grav shots (not counting the twin linked rending bolters) over a few lasconnons or meltas. The speed as well is a massive advantage. Although drops will work well too!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/25 01:52:09
Subject: IRON HANDS AIR FORCE 2K
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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Imagine a 12 flyer list with double FoC. I want one now. Is it even legal?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/25 06:36:15
Subject: IRON HANDS AIR FORCE 2K
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Without any upgrades on the flyers it'd be a minimum of 1860pts. With only 140pts for 2 hq and 4 troops it would be impossible. At 3k it'd be possible but unfeasible as you'd have hardly any bodies on the ground for a 3k. Also extremely expensive money wise unfortunately. Automatically Appended Next Post: You had me thinking at work today largeblast, is 3k dozen wing possible?
Haven't had time to check the dex but off the top of my head im 90% sure ive got the points right. This MAY work:
6 ravens with assault and melta,
6 talons with assault and skyhammer.
Comes to 1950.
You're going to need an agis with comms for 70.
Now if you do a chap master with bike, a armour, shield eternal and fist. There is another 245.
Hes hard as nails and will be put on the comms. Solid counter assault once flyers have turned up.
Total so far: 2265.
Now 4 squads of 5 man scouts with snipers,
7 squads of 5 man scouts with bolters,
And 1 squad of 10 man scouts with bolters.
Comes to exactly 3k and gives you 65 scouts in cover. 10 of whom the master will tank shots for (at least for 1 or 2 shooting turns). That many scouts positioned across the board will force assault or drop armies to split up and MIGHT prevent shooty armies that don't ignore cover from tabling you turn 1. Tactic early game is to go to ground and HIDE!!! Will struggle against mass serp shields though.
Run Iron Hand CT for 6+ fnp and IWND on chap master and flyers.
Once the flyers have softened up the enemy, let your scouts poke their heads up for shots/running to objectives. Unless facing horde - then just dakka as much as you can from turn 1. Automatically Appended Next Post: Actually, need 2 hq. So id drop that 10man down to a 5 man and get rid of 10 sniper upgrades and bring in a librarian.
In fact, the scouts are either going to be hiding or needing to be mobile so i'd drop the other 10 sniper upgrades and get digital weapons for master to make him even more reliable.
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