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Kids weren't on the bus yet.....

I blame all the soccer moms out there who are overly active in their kid's every move and then complain to the school every 5 minutes.

It's stupid policies like this that resulted in our grade 7 principal trying to enforce 2 hand touch football.... have you ever tried to play 2 hand touch football!?!?! It's called frisbee FFS.

Way too many carebears holding their darling babies too tightly.


One thing that made me lol though "It's terrible. I won't get the chance to go to a good college. It's on your school record."

^^ Is there any truth to that or is that a kid in grade 7 spewing the doomsday prophecies? When I applied to university only grade 12 grades mattered and I highly doubt they checked what you were up to at the age of 13.

 gossipmeng wrote:
Kids weren't on the bus yet.....

I blame all the soccer moms out there who are overly active in their kid's every move and then complain to the school every 5 minutes.

It's stupid policies like this that resulted in our grade 7 principal trying to enforce 2 hand touch football.... have you ever tried to play 2 hand touch football!?!?! It's called frisbee FFS.

Way too many carebears holding their darling babies too tightly.


One thing that made me lol though "It's terrible. I won't get the chance to go to a good college. It's on your school record."

^^ Is there any truth to that or is that a kid in grade 7 spewing the doomsday prophecies? When I applied to university only grade 12 grades mattered and I highly doubt they checked what you were up to at the age of 13.

I think it depends on the state you're in, When I applied for collage (Colorado) they were all concerned about my suspension for "assault". I stopped a kid from stealing my backpack, he tried to punch me, I blocked, he cut his fist on my watch (which broke btw) and I was suspended for assaulting him. My dad bought me my first beer for that lol. Anyway I think having a "firearms" related offense might cause more of an uproar with the over educated college nitwits that typically work in the university system. So I guess its plausible that this could affect him later on down the road.

You applied for collage?

Was that an advanced (martial) arts and crafts school?

My school board got rid of the problem the other way around: they got rid of bus service altogether. Parents are responsible for their kids as long as the bell hasn't rung, and as soon as school is out. But on the other hand, teachers are personally responsible for students they sign into their class. A kid got his eye gouged out by a flying pen and the teacher was held responsible and lost his license because of that.

Can't wait to get out to teach in the suburbs.

Spartak wrote:
collage

One day this will stop. I hope

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
The school may have a claim, depending on how dirty the undwear are.
And I do think schools are responsible for child when they are n the bus and going to school

If they are dirty the maybe considered a Biological WMD.Better call the NSA.

 col. krazy kenny wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
The school may have a claim, depending on how dirty the undwear are.
And I do think schools are responsible for child when they are n the bus and going to school

If they are dirty the maybe considered a Biological WMD.Better call the NSA.

They already know

So we are in agreement, Dirty underwear is a weapon.
But Im curious on how this works TBH. I am willing to bet the school had god reason for this.

Hahahah.

Hah.

Your somehow enduring faith in government actually doing right by human beings is kinda sad hotsauce.

It just seems odd to me. I feel as is we dont have all the information or how laws may work in virginia.

What more information could there really be? Kids play with a toy at home. They are subseuqently expelled.

There's really not a lot of extra room running around for mitigating circumstances in the school's favor.

Khalid insists all the shots fired were on his private property. The three children firing the guns were suspended. The three others who did not fire the guns were not suspended.

See underlined All we have to go by is the kids insistence that they only did is on private property. If they did do it near the bus stop then there is a problem. The way the article is made it seems as if they where playing more then on private property, near a busstop therefore the schools problem.

Except that sets a bad precedent. It means that anything that happens even near a bus stop is the schools business.

This means the school could potentially butt into things that are legitimately happening on private property just because a bus stop is nearby.

The point is that this may not have taken place entirely on Private property. All we have to go on the kids words

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
The point is that this may not have taken place entirely on Private property. All we have to go on the kids words

Bus stops are not school owned property.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
What more information could there really be? Kids play with a toy at home. They are subseuqently expelled.

Suspended, not expelled.

Suspension is also the dumbest punishment currently.

It may have actually been a punishment back when going to school was something kids would actually want to do, back when it was valued.

Now days, the kid is probably going to be thrilled he doesn't have to go.

 Frazzled wrote:

Bus stops are not school owned property.

Virginia law considers school bus stops to be school property. Or so it seems.

 dogma wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
What more information could there really be? Kids play with a toy at home. They are subseuqently expelled.

Suspended, not expelled.

FOR A YEAR.

Hmmm, there has to be a way to make that little tidbit uncomfortable for the school.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Now days, the kid is probably going to be thrilled he doesn't have to go.

This is why my school started to give Saturday 'suspensions', Wednesday school, and in school suspensions. The first was a 5 hour block on Saturday in which you had to be up early and at the school. Wednesday school was a 2 hour suspension after school in which you had to sit in a room silently for that time period. In School Suspension was when they'd take you to the same room as Wednesday school and make you sit and work on homework and class work all day. No talking, no noise, just work.

You were only removed from school if you were a violent kid that posed a risk to other students.

That's more like it. Especially the Saturday thing.

 dogma wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

Bus stops are not school owned property.

Virginia law considers school bus stops to be school property. Or so it seems.

Irrelevant if true. That would be overturned via any serious court challenge as an unrecompensed Taking.

 Frazzled wrote:

FOR A YEAR.

First sentence of the article:

A suspended seventh grade Virginia Beach student will find out soon if he is expelled for the rest of the year for shooting an airsoft gun.

That sentence does not indicate that the child was suspended for a year. But it is telling that his friend, Aidan, and the unnamed third child are not seemingly subject to expulsion proceedings.

The fact that its even being considered is outrageous.

An Airsoft gun is NOT a firearm and the rules should reflect that. Its a toy.

it says for the rest of the year. Thats frankly criminal.

 Frazzled wrote:

Irrelevant if true. That would be overturned via any serious court challenge as an unrecompensed Taking.

While that is certainly possible, it is also an argument that Virginia officials have made.

 Grey Templar wrote:

An Airsoft gun is NOT a firearm and the rules should reflect that. Its a toy.

I agree. But blame the rules, not the school.

 dogma wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

FOR A YEAR.

First sentence of the article:

A suspended seventh grade Virginia Beach student will find out soon if he is expelled for the rest of the year for shooting an airsoft gun.

That sentence does not indicate that the child was suspended for a year. But it is telling that his friend, Aidan, and the unnamed third child are not seemingly subject to expulsion proceedings.

To be fair, the kid would miss out on a large chunk of this school year. It's not like, "hey Jimmy is suspended from now until when school lets out next week in June!" This is months of missing education.

Which means he's held back an entire year, because he was playing with a freaking kid's toy ON HIS OWN PROPERTY and threatened nor harmed anyone.

"This is so Kafka"
"WHO IS THIS KAFKA!!!"

 Alfndrate wrote:

To be fair, the kid would miss out on a large chunk of this school year. It's not like, "hey Jimmy is suspended from now until when school lets out next week in June!" This is months of missing education.

It is a year, but perhaps the kid shouldn't put himself at risk.

 Frazzled wrote:
Which means he's held back an entire year, because he was playing with a freaking kid's toy ON HIS OWN PROPERTY and threatened nor harmed anyone.

According to his words and those of his parents, who were not there.

Kid shouldn't put himself at risk PLAYING WITH A TOY ON HIS PROPERTY? That statement doesn't pass the lucidity test.

According to his words and those of his parents, who were not there.

There's nothing saying otherwise. If you want to invent something, well thats on you to do.

There's no way, with the information noted in the article, that the school comes out looking anything better than horrific bureaucrats who don't have the intellect God gave to jock itch.