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 BrookM wrote:
could a mod PLEASE add

DONE

Did i break the thread? =(

Something's up ... our technical liege, legoburner, is on it.


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May have worked itself out now ...

 S'jet wrote:
Did i break the thread? =(

Aww, what was it doing? I missed it?

So Silver Scars ahoy then ?

Cool

All i want to know is will i have to buy this just to get a warlord trait table?
I will be a lot pissed if they change anything they printed in the white dwarves.

canadianguy wrote:
All i want to know is will i have to buy this just to get a warlord trait table?

Yes.

I will be a lot pissed if they change anything they printed in the white dwarves.

You're getting a codex update. If you really feel that strongly about it, copy down the warlord table onto some paper, fold it and stick it into your white dwarf.

Codex update? Or an update to a double white dwarf update lol.

Just saying if they alter units cost etc get a hard copy out asap.

right - so some good news - what do you actually need to use these digital products - I just have a PC is that enough?

 ClockworkZion wrote:

More seriously, the point was they changed their colors due to significance, opening the door for others to do the same. As long as you can justify a historical meaning then it's not an issue.

Because i don't like painting black and the look way cool in turquoise.. there justified

 Manchu wrote:
If this was the "real" SoB dex release, and not just a dust off of the WD dex, that would be really tragic.

Indeed, but I'm quite sure that that isn't the case. The "real" update will come alongside plastics, which apparently aren't yet around.

It needn't be anything so major as a real update, anyway. Just small tweaks, like others have been suggesting. Nothing much more than the addition of a Warlord table.

 Manchu wrote:
Imagine instead a table full of tan Orks (I say tan because you earlier said tan was a "serious" color). I don't mean they have tan pants/shirts on or are dusty; I mean instead of green skin they have tan skin.

I don't see actually changing the colour of a race's skin as radical as changing their armour colour.

Really, pretty much every army lets its players paint up their models however they want. In light of this, the same right being afforded to the SoB is hardly all that extreme. Certainly not as extreme as tan-skinned Orks.

 Troike wrote:
Certainly not as extreme as tan-skinned Orks.

I disagree. Orks are a fantasy race. They are no more or less fictional than the color of SoB power armor. According to fluff, Orks look a certain way -- they're Greenskins. So painting their skin tan may look great to someone but, again, the question of whether anyone else on earth thinks they look like Orks from 40k is a separate matter. Same applies to Sisters. What one person considers to look "serious," even if the scheme contains no white, black, or red, will not necessarily look like 40k Space Nuns to anyone else for the simple reason that just like Orks have green skins, Sisters wear white, red, and/or black. ITT you have a perfect example, Lynata, who does not think the Order of the Blue Robe looks like "real" Sisters because of the blue (even though they also have white).

 Mr Morden wrote:
right - so some good news - what do you actually need to use these digital products - I just have a PC is that enough?

You should be fine if you can get a program that reads .epub or .mobi.

thanks - I'd be tempted to get it just to make sure SOB gets my support

 Mr Morden wrote:
thanks - I'd be tempted to get it just to make sure SOB gets my support

That is some of my thinking as well.

 pretre wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
right - so some good news - what do you actually need to use these digital products - I just have a PC is that enough?

You should be fine if you can get a program that reads .epub or .mobi.

How about actually using these rules without owning a tablet? Say I were to buy this and print it off, would that be allright? Obviously LGSs probably woudn't mind, but a GW manager might.

 Manchu wrote:
Same applies to Sisters. What one person considers to look "serious," even if the scheme contains no white, black, or red, will not necessarily look like 40k Space Nuns to anyone else for the simple reason that just like Orks have green skins, Sisters wear white, red, and/or black.

The Major Orders, being the main ones are pretty much the ones that fans will see the most, so they're the main consideration in that. I'm not at all advocating that Major Orders be changed, just that we have the freedom to paint our own Minor Orders how we want. The main Sisters would still have the same colours.

 Manchu wrote:
ITT you have a perfect example, Lynata, who does not think the Order of the Blue Robe looks like "real" Sisters because of the blue (even though they also have white).

This ties into my above point. One could easily take the view that they are not "real" Sisters per se, in that they are a Minor Order, not a Major One. They're offshoots of a sort, is what I'm saying.

And before you say something like "then where do you draw the line?" in regards to skin pigament vs armour colour, I'll point to the other armies again. They keep their skin pigaments consistent, but have no set limits on their colourschemes. All I ask is as much freedom to make an army as much my own than is enjoyed by most other armies.


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 Mr Morden wrote:
thanks - I'd be tempted to get it just to make sure SOB gets my support

Supporting our army aside, isn't this technically our official codex now, rendering those White Dwarfs obsolete? One can take the view that we have to buy it out of necessity, not just love for our Nuns with guns.

But yes, I too will buy it to support the Sisters. That, and I'm interested to see what they've done with it.

 Troike wrote:
How about actually using these rules without owning a tablet? Say I were to buy this and print it off, would that be allright? Obviously LGSs probably woudn't mind, but a GW manager might.

I really don't think they would. That being said, how many GW stores can you still play at?

Supporting our army aside, isn't this technically our official codex now, rendering those White Dwarfs obsolete?

Depends on how many changes there are. Will it be like DFTS and you can largely still use the WDs with the FAQs or will it be a lot more than that? We will know once it comes out.

 pretre wrote:
I really don't think they would.

Yeah, I figured as much. It's rather irritating that you cannot "officially" use these unless you happen to own a tablet, but whatever. I have two LGSs nearby anyway.

 pretre wrote:
That being said, how many GW stores can you still play at?

No idea about the other ones, but my one does games on thursdays. People book tables and then come in to play. Apart from that, there's the occasional event, like tournaments and such.

I'd talk to your GW store about it and see if they'll okay your "hard-copy backup". Worst they can say is no.


And maybe set you on fire for Heresy.

Well my local GW's manager was perfectly fine with me using a PDF of the WD codex. Without requiring the me to also bring the WDs themselves, in fact, so maybe he'll be cool with this. But then, customer services did tell him that he could do that.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
IAnd maybe set you on fire for Heresy.

But that's our schtick.

 Troike wrote:
Well my local GW's manager was perfectly fine with me using a PDF of the WD codex. Without requiring the me to also bring the WDs themselves, in fact, so maybe he'll be cool with this. But then, customer services did tell him that he could do that.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
IAnd maybe set you on fire for Heresy.

But that's our schtick.

Yeah, but we learned it from the GW legal team.

 Troike wrote:
No idea about the other ones, but my one does games on thursdays. People book tables and then come in to play. Apart from that, there's the occasional event, like tournaments and such.

Oh, my bad, you're in the UK and they still have gaming space.

 pretre wrote:

Oh, my bad, you're in the UK and they still have gaming space.

I was a bit surprised when one opened 15 minutes away(ish) in MN. Far smaller than the FLGS's I prefer but not a bad spot. Either way I think if you can buy and print the rules off then having printed rules would be fine. Tablets at the gaming table turn into nightmares for the ADHD impaired of us anyway (had a friend who was bad about that with his phone).

@KaryudoDS

Which store? I'm in MN so I'm curious.

Tolkien's Orcs and DnD Orcs are grey/black, my fantasy Orcs are all shaded from grey to black depending on how tough they are. My 40k Orks are green and look far more cartoon like because of it.

I painted my sisters a light blue colour as all of my imperial forces (UM, GK, SoB, IG, Inquisition) are based in Ultramar so I wanted to show that they fit under Calgar's domain. Only time a paint job should give you pause is when the model looks like it has been dipped in house paint.

If I'm right about this, wouldn't there be something in the Apple Book Store if the SoB book was going digital?

There is nothing there.

 S'jet wrote:
"The Orders Militant make use of three main colours in the design of their uniforms; black, white and red."

Argent Shroud, one of the major orders have silver armour.... which presents a little dilemma.

In European heraldry the colours white and argent (silver) are the same. There isn't a colour white, it counts as a metal, called argent. You can paint your design with silver or white and it means the same.

I know some people are totally focussed on the "canon" of the background; would they refuse to play against an army that was painted in non-canon colours?

 Manchu wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
(that's the official 2nd edition Codex in German)

So ... there was a bad translation in 1997? (IIRC the English dex has "Adepta" throughout.) And an editorial slip in 2013. Not seeing how the former justifies the latter

Just checked: Everytime the English GW webstore uses "Sisters of Battle", the German version uses "Adeptus Sororitas", even in the tag for the army. So in Germany, it is still the official name (and not Adepta!). Call it a bad translation, but Adepta Sororitas is one as well (Adepta Sororitatis at least follows Latin grammar, meaning "a (single) female pupil of the sisterhood").

Puscifer wrote:
If I'm right about this, wouldn't there be something in the Apple Book Store if the SoB book was going digital?

There is nothing there.

Not yet, anyway. Let's wait for a bit and see what happens.

Yes but Adeptus is purely masculine. Adepta is Feminine.

..a pupil (male singular) of the sisterhood... is a little wierd.