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 Troike wrote:
Is that Dark Heresy art, though? It looks like Dark Heresy art.


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@pretre
It says it's the complete series, so yes.

Thats from the Deathwatch module, Rising Tempest. Its a good piece of art if you ask me.

It reminds me of this unreleased miniature with a powerfist

andrewm9 wrote:

 Troike wrote:
Is that Dark Heresy art, though? It looks like Dark Heresy art.


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@pretre
It says it's the complete series, so yes.

Thats from the Deathwatch module, Rising Tempest. Its a good piece of art if you ask me.

It reminds me of this unreleased miniature with a powerfist

That's beautiful! Never seen that before...

I looked at some of the "deals" on the GW website and all I can really say is: wow, look at what little you get for $700.

Can't imagine why Sisters aren't more popular.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I love the prices. 1 click collection for Seraphim - $111 for 5 models! Celestian collection... $141 for 10 models! HA!

I'm guessing you didn't notice the Daughters of the Emperor deal. I thought I was on the Australian page for a minute. Then I saw that it really was the US page. :(

Thank God for Raging Heroes. The best part, the way things are going I'll have my Sisters by the time GW releases my Bretonnians. Oh... wait. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.... !!!

 scarletsquig wrote:
Really cool that the signed Blanche poster is in there.

It's about time they started doing something with those otherwise-useless 1-click collections.

I agree. It actually made me consider ordering this for a moment, until I remembered my hatred of metal models and I came to my senses.

They seem to have done a decent amount of updating and hijacking of art resources for this.

If the price of digital codexes stays at this kind of level I will get myself a tablet or iPad at Xmas. I like the look of the interactivity for the iPad codexes but I'm not sure the price difference between Apple and a 10" Android tablet would justify it.

I already have War Room and want to get more of PP's stuff, too.

I'm really pleased to see the Sisters get a release. Hopefully, we might get a full release of new models soon.

Remember when the sisters boxset was £17.99. As Penfold would say, crumbs!

At least some love is being shown to the Sisters with a kinda of 6th ed. update codex. They may be limited right now with the scope of rules due to minis or short version no new troops. Hopefully, we'll see a proper hardback Codex in less than 2 years, new plastic minis and troops/vehicles (Flyer please!).

Can't wait to see this update.

Well pre-ordered - just waiting till Saturday to download

loving the artwork hoping the tweeks are all good:

Looking at the Cannoness:

So we have to choose between Boltgun and Boltpistol now, but auto get a chainsword.
Rosarius is -10pts - thats a good thing
Get "Matrydom" - she always had Stubborn.

Well currently thats a -10pt drop for a Cannoness as can't see not taking the Rosarius - need to see what the other options in particular relics gives us.

Minor thing I note is that the Acts of Faith are now Act

I wonder if the cheaper Rosarius means the priests are cheaper too.

The issue with the Canoness as I see it is where to put her? She doesn't have any given part to play in the way the army works... at least not in my opinion. Unless they change her act of faith, she will still be a close combat buffer that has no real close combat unit to buff. Repentias will lose Fleet if she joins and a battle conclave will now have two character taxes to pay. To top that off, she continues to be a buffer that herself isn't that great in close combat. T3 and S3 doesn't cut it with all those MCs, Chaper Masters and Necron Lords running around out there.

Of course, this may all change next weekend and her prayer becomes something entirely new, but I had hoped for jump packs at least or some sort of "bonus" that a Canoness could offer an army like, oh I don't know... like chapter tactics or anything similar. As it stands right now, a Canoness didn't become better just because a Rosarius became cheaper, she is still nothing but a tax you have to pay and offers nothing that Celestine doesn't do better. Which is a shame according to myself since I prefer to create my own HQs and make up a background story for them. Even if they raise Celestine (or Celestilton as we call her because she is cheese) to 150p or even 175p-200p she would still be a preferable choice for most players. Unless they completely remake her and leave us with no good HQ at all of course.

I am afraid that the Canoness will still only be placed together with some Retributors manning a Quad-gun. It will be interesting to see what they will have made out of the Confessor and its retinue...

Agusto

 Shandara wrote:
I wonder if the cheaper Rosarius means the priests are cheaper too.

Of course ! To go along with the current price reduction, it's now 44 points instead of 45. Rejoice ! New pricing !

No jump pack for the Canoness, makes me a sad panda. It would've at least give you the option of mobility and run around with the Seraphim.
The only hope might be for a special holy jump pack/armor under Relics.

I think three years ago, Sisters and Seraphim boxes cost less than half: 30€ for Sororitas and 25 € for Seraphim Squad. Classy release

Edit: Just found a reference:
May 2009 Sororitas box was 40$, now it's double that (granted now including superior and standard):
http://wargamingforums.com/2009/05/23/games-workshop-price-hike-covers-40k-warhammer-fantasy-lord-of-the-rings-specialist-games-and-more/

And the seraphim don't come with a superior any more either.

 Troike wrote:

 Still Standing wrote:
Where is it up for pre-order as I can't find it?

Ooops, looks like they took it down again. I guess they jumped the gun, since it's not midnight yet. But luckily, I was fast and preordered it anyway.

It went up over here, by the way. It should be back at midnight.

Edit: oh, I'm seeing it again. Dammit, make up your minds!

Taken down... AGAIN

From the WD Daily blog:

Thinking about it, the pre-ordering of a digital codex may well have been to combat piracy. If it got released normally, it'd probably be getting passed around for free fairly quick. This way, people don't have that option, so the only way to get ahold of it now is to pay for it.

As for the one-clicks, yes, they're expensive. But that's a natural consequence of our individual models being so expensive, and one-clicks not providing any actual discounts. But still, it's nice to see them getting that sort of attention in itself.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
From the WD Daily blog:

Spoiler:

This is why I gave up buying anything new for 40k; obscene prices for something that does so little in the game, £50 for a troops choice? How about no.

Codex pre ordered and a game booked for the Sunday to try it out, fingers crossed that it fixes the WD codex.

Is horde SoB the most expensive army? Or is mounted DKoK more expensive?

Horde all-metal IG might be more expensive because of the higher model count but I'm not 100% on that.

Tallarn are the most expensive still in production (we'll ignore anything out of production) at £25.50 for 10, £49.70 for 10 Sisters. So 4 units of 50 Tallarn per unit is £510 and 1120 points no special weapons, 5 units of 20 Sisters is £497 and 1225 points so Guard would be just more expensive.

Death Korps eats that for breakfast though, £38.50 for 10, so £770 for 4 units of 50. A unit of 10 rough riders is £135!

Pre-ordered, plus ordering 3 additinal vehicles & some figures I did not have. Hope the additional turnover (with others) is noticeable over at GW giving some incentive to push out plastic figures and all new codex 'soon'.

 pretre wrote:



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110 pages on iTunes vs 448 for C:SM

Space Marines is unusual though for a codex. Chaos Space Marines was 184 digitally.

Yeah Codex SM is like a bumper codex. Anyway, I've got my digi-dex pre-ordered so am a happy bunny. Gonna wait til I've read it before I make any extra purchases but will most likely be getting a couple of Immos and a selection of models.

D

The prices for the SOB models is utterly criminal. How do they live with themselves? No new player is going to start this army..and certainly very few current players will start one either. $80 for a squad of 10? Really? Then $85 for a 10 man squad of celestians which are basically the same models? Dumb. This release is more for the current owners of SOB armies than anything. Looking at the army releases and prices..there simply is no incentive for anyone new to start this army. What a joke.

 evildrcheese wrote:
Yeah Codex SM is like a bumper codex. Anyway, I've got my digi-dex pre-ordered so am a happy bunny. Gonna wait til I've read it before I make any extra purchases but will most likely be getting a couple of Immos and a selection of models.

D

Indeed - got a game booked on the folloeing Sunday at the local GW to try them out and show people cool models

 CaptKaruthors wrote:
The prices for the SOB models is utterly criminal. How do they live with themselves? No new player is going to start this army..and certainly very few current players will start one either. $80 for a squad of 10? Really? Then $85 for a 10 man squad of celestians which are basically the same models? Dumb. This release is more for the current owners of SOB armies than anything. Looking at the army releases and prices..there simply is no incentive for anyone new to start this army. What a joke.

it's only a joke if you don't already own a SOB army...

 CaptKaruthors wrote:
The prices for the SOB models is utterly criminal. How do they live with themselves? No new player is going to start this army..and certainly very few current players will start one either. $80 for a squad of 10? Really? Then $85 for a 10 man squad of celestians which are basically the same models? Dumb. This release is more for the current owners of SOB armies than anything. Looking at the army releases and prices..there simply is no incentive for anyone new to start this army. What a joke.

Those are the same prices I was paying for an army in 2010. Despite their price point Sisters haven't shifted in price since they went to blisters.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 CaptKaruthors wrote:
The prices for the SOB models is utterly criminal. How do they live with themselves? No new player is going to start this army..and certainly very few current players will start one either. $80 for a squad of 10? Really? Then $85 for a 10 man squad of celestians which are basically the same models? Dumb. This release is more for the current owners of SOB armies than anything. Looking at the army releases and prices..there simply is no incentive for anyone new to start this army. What a joke.

Those are the same prices I was paying for an army in 2010. Despite their price point Sisters haven't shifted in price since they went to blisters.

That's totally true, but it was ridiculous then and its ridiculous now. GW can't think its really going to sell well by any stretch. If anything the one clicks highlight how expensive the army really is to collect.


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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Very interesting description of the Celestians :

Celestians are the finest and noblest warriors of their Order - inspirational figures whose refusal to yield, even in the direst of situations, is legendary. The presence of such warriors does much to bolster the fighting spirit of nearby troops, and as such, the Orders Militant allow these distinguished veterans to bear devotional markings.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat660006a&prodId=prod2270010a
Seems like they finally switched the Celestian role from slightly above grot-level CC at the expense of useful shootiness ability to something actually useful, nearby unit boosters with very high Ld or some morale special rule. Fearless ?

Probably not. That is the same description they gave them in the WD codex. Clearly fluff description in this case has no bearing on tabletop performance or their job. I really do wonder though at the roles of other units given that Battle Sisters can now have 2 special weapons at 5 models.