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If it was already out I'd be $40 in the hole and either posting in excitement or anger.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
If it was already out I'd be $40 in the hole and either posting in excitement or anger.

$32.99. And I already bought it.

Just waiting for them to make the stupid link live on Friday.

 pretre wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
If it was already out I'd be $40 in the hole and either posting in excitement or anger.

$32.99. And I already bought it.

Just waiting for them to make the stupid link live on Friday.

I went iPad and already pre-ordered it but they aren't charging me until it's released.

I'd like to price up my sisters but they stopped making and dropped from the codex about 50% of my collection :(

The reason the price is new to some, at least to me is I didn't even bother looking at the minis since 09 or so because they were metal and I had space wolves to build. The price is a bit of a shock because of the codex. It's new and people are checking the model pricing because these are the only ones (no plastics). Prices are such a turn off nowadays. I'm curious now to see how long gw can keep this up before they fall on their faces. Shall we take bets? I'd give them another year or two if this douchebaggery pricing continues.

 conker249 wrote:
I'm sure he meant outflank.

Yeah I do. Sorry I always make that mistake and get the names mixed up.

D

I never really checked on the prices that often, myself. I knew they were expensive, but I never knew just how expensive. For some reason I still thought a squad of ten was like $50, which is still too much really, but the $80 price tag was kind of shocking. And as I pointed out, the $700 deal is just...I mean, most of these 1-click collections are guilty of this obviously, where it just doesn't feel like you're really getting enough for your money, but this one in particular really made me raise an eyebrow. $700 is a huge chunk of change and I really can't believe just how tiny that "army" is...they even say in the description something along the lines of "It's about 1500 points if you really load up on pricey wargear!", and then with the signed art print thrown in it's like they were having a really hard time trying to sell this. I mean obviously a "competitive" SoB army would have more IG than SoB models in it, but still.

Like it was said earlier, the "1-click collections" (not "deals", sorry) just emphasize how absurdly expensive the models really are, and in my case at least, just killed whatever desire their was to play this army with the current models...which for the most part didn't age too badly in my opinion (compared to the old Dark Eldar they're masterpieces, lol) but are still needing to be updated. A real codex and some new plastics at $40/10 models like the new SM tactical squad and I'd be interested, but until then...

 l0k1 wrote:
I'm sure its been discussed already but, this will be the first digital codex I will have picked up. I don't own a tablet, but was planning on downloading this to my PC. Which format/eReader is recommended? Thanks!

All Black Library stuff , including the SM Codex, works on my PC via a downloaded Kindle app. I also use the Kindle app on my tablet.

 rangemaster wrote:
The reason the price is new to some, at least to me is I didn't even bother looking at the minis since 09 or so because they were metal and I had space wolves to build. The price is a bit of a shock because of the codex. It's new and people are checking the model pricing because these are the only ones (no plastics). Prices are such a turn off nowadays. I'm curious now to see how long gw can keep this up before they fall on their faces. Shall we take bets? I'd give them another year or two if this douchebaggery pricing continues.

Welcome to the world of Sisters of Battle.

We don't get new minis. Just new prices.

 Still Standing wrote:
Not sure if it makes me feel better or worse that my Sisters army is worth more than my FW Legion army...

Both metaphorically and literally!

 Melissia wrote:
We don't get new minis. Just new prices.

Sad, but true.

That's the reason I just can't bring myself to play a sisters army. Maybe if they release plastics, but until then the lack of diversity and price are breaking points.

Looky Likey wrote:
I'd like to price up my sisters but they stopped making and dropped from the codex about 50% of my collection :(

unless your army is 50% frater is and old rhinos, this is unlikely...

Yes the prices for the models are crazy. I'm one of the new sisters followers so i have no models to start with. And i definitely won't buy the massively expensive metal ones.
That's the reason why i started to sculpt my own (and hosefully cast them) until GW releases new plastic sisters.

Keep in mind that Raging Heroes has plans for a full sisters army.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Keep in mind that Raging Heroes has plans for a full sisters army.

As well as issues with cost, delivery time and not quite fitting the aesthetics of the setting. Not saying that I don't look forward to seeing what they have to put out, but their current kickstarter is not inspiring. The fact that their minis tend to be monopose as well doesn't help.

Not inspiring? Have you seen their recent update? =p

 S'jet wrote:
Not inspiring? Have you seen their recent update? =p

I was more talking about how they were handling it. I just saw their newest update and they look good. We'll see what the final product in our hands looks like. Material issues have come up in the past, iirc.

And the TTG troops are multipart multipose, not monopose.

 S'jet wrote:
Not inspiring? Have you seen their recent update? =p

Those. Look. Amazing.
See, GW? That's how you do it. Now stop crying about not being able to make plastic sisters and just friggin' do it!

I find it interesting that they did the release in the middle of the month for the codex and the one click deals. I guess they did this because the minis aren't new? Is it because the Sisters are an after thought?

 MWHistorian wrote:
Now stop crying about not being able to make plastic sisters and just friggin' do it!

They could well be in the process of doing it, for all we know. Apart from actually making the things (and there's a lot to make), they have to wait until the optimum time financially to do so. The point is that it's more complicated than you'd think, so it could well be a while before we see any.

I remember Zion making a post laying the whole thing out, about how they'd have to wait until a certain point to release new SoB models, but can't find it.

Wwbushidow wrote:
I find it interesting that they did the release in the middle of the month for the codex and the one click deals. I guess they did this because the minis aren't new? Is it because the Sisters are an after thought?

Why's the middle of the month a bad thing? Sisters are still getting a lot of attention from this, both from GW and fans. The GW Digital Edtions Facebook page especially has been giving them a lot of focus.

 Melissia wrote:
Welcome to the world of Sisters of Battle.

We don't get new minis. Just new prices.

No we don't. We haven't had any price changes in a few years now.

And doing the math, Battle Sisters are ~$5 a model, far cheaper than a number of metal models out there.

Yes, it's higher than plastic but we're not really that bad.

 labmouse42 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
We don't get new minis. Just new prices.

Sad, but true.

That's the reason I just can't bring myself to play a sisters army. Maybe if they release plastics, but until then the lack of diversity and price are breaking points.

I suspect the updated Codex is more of a "test the waters" trial to see how many existing players out there are still interested in the Sisters rather than a concerted attempt to drum up new players. I know I'll be buying it next week and redoing my Valorous Heart list.

Of course, collections are available via the website for those with no consumer resistance....speaking of which, spare Valkyrie rocket pods with a new Immolator kit = kit bashed Exorcist!

They didn't give this any press at all. It was not on their site in any way. Thursday they were featuring Dark Elves, and Friday they featured Forge World's Games Day table terrain. (Very nice landing area!! Where can I find that terrain?)

Then Saturday "Hey look! We proudly support Adepta Soroitas!" (Not too much though since we still only have the old metal minis)

Wwbushidow wrote:
They didn't give this any press at all. It was not on their site in any way. Thursday they were featuring Dark Elves, and Friday they featured Forge World's Games Day table terrain. (Very nice landing area!! Where can I find that terrain?)

Then Saturday "Hey look! We proudly support Adepta Soroitas!" (Not too much though since we still only have the old metal minis)

Well, apart from being in White Dwarf a couple of weeks ago, and then revealing cover artwork and page previews. Compared to most GW releases, its been an info avalanche!

I really feel for you long suffering Sisters players. Just like many here I had no idea how ridiculously outrageous the prices for your models are.

The Aussie prices really compound that horror:

$135AU ($128US) for 10 troops models.
$145AU for 10 Elites models.
$111AU for 5 Fast Attack models!

I'll leave the RH discourse for the appropriate thread.

Artanis wrote:
I really feel for you long suffering Sisters players. Just like many here I had no idea how ridiculously outrageous the prices for your models are.

The Aussie prices really compound that horror:

$135AU ($128US) for 10 troops models.
$145AU for 10 Elites models.
$111AU for 5 Fast Attack models!

This just in: Australian prices are ridiculous. Also, the sun rises each day.

 Troike wrote:
I remember Zion making a post laying the whole thing out, about how they'd have to wait until a certain point to release new SoB models, but can't find it.

Before anyone lynches me for this, this is pure conjecture. I can't prove any of this, I'm just working out things logically.

We know a couple of things:

1. Everything in the front half of 2104 is essentially booked.
2. After June 2014 we'll have the following books remaining: Blood Angels, Dark Eldar, Space Wolves, Sisters, Necrons, Grey Knights. Now assuming 40k will continue to get an update every other month that means 3 more 40k books in 2014 and then 3 in 2015.

So what we know is that Marine armies are GW's "sure thing". This means they'll be using them to likely prop up the codexes they are less sure about.

Additionally the best time to launch a book you considering to be an exceptionally weak seller or are just not sure about would be right after the fiscal year starts, which for GW is June. This works out well because it also puts the weak seller before Christmas which means any sales you don't recoup are still covered by the holiday rush. So they may lose a little money but in the end they will still come out strong on their Investors reports which is a big deal for a company that is trying to maintain slow and steady growth.

So the best time to release Sisters is honestly late 2014 assuming their ready then. I also expect at least one of the Marine books about that time as well to help "prop up" sales too.

Wwbushidow wrote:
They didn't give this any press at all. It was not on their site in any way. Thursday they were featuring Dark Elves, and Friday they featured Forge World's Games Day table terrain. (Very nice landing area!! Where can I find that terrain?)

Then Saturday "Hey look! We proudly support Adepta Soroitas!" (Not too much though since we still only have the old metal minis)

How is dedicating the front page of their site to the Sisters not giving them press? That will have given them lots of exposure. They just wanted to sync it with the preorder coming out

Also, their Digital Editions Facebook page has been very active in promoting the Sisters. Multiple teasers and previews, and interactions with the fans. Just today, they asked people to post pictures of their SoB- sorry, AS armies.

Aye I said last year, but with my muddled brain it could have been a couple, when did Dark Eldar come out, might have been closer to then, was considering a Sisters match up against the cult who go after their shrine worlds.

 Troike wrote:

Wwbushidow wrote:
They didn't give this any press at all. It was not on their site in any way. Thursday they were featuring Dark Elves, and Friday they featured Forge World's Games Day table terrain. (Very nice landing area!! Where can I find that terrain?)

Then Saturday "Hey look! We proudly support Adepta Soroitas!" (Not too much though since we still only have the old metal minis)

How is dedicating the front page of their site to the Sisters not giving them press? That will have given them lots of exposure. They just wanted to sync it with the preorder coming out

Also, their Digital Editions Facebook page has been very active in promoting the Sisters. Multiple teasers and previews, and interactions with the fans. Just today, they asked people to post pictures of their SoB- sorry, AS armies.

Yeah, it's almost as if the Digital Editions wing of GW had never heard of their marketing strategy...