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Yeah but the ability is totally useless for flamers so it would be nice if they had something both could benefit from. I will admit I haven't played 40k in 2-3 years so I have no idea how the meta is anymore so maybe it's not a big deal.

Gonna wait for some people to think up army lists to see if I should go and get my Sisters army out of the box I put all my warhammer stuff in that I was planning on selling. The book looks pretty nice but I have lost the ability to judge how decent stuff is.

You can take 1 battle conclave for each priest/jacobus. 6 Battle Conclaves anyone?

Also interesting is that you don't have to take 10 Dominions in order to get 4 special weapons in the squad.

 AdeptSister wrote:
Question about epub? Can download it to my computer then transfer to my tablet? Or do I have to download directly to the tablet?

There isn't any DRM on an e.pub so you can move it wherever you want

 S'jet wrote:
You can take 1 battle conclave for each priest/jacobus. 6 Battle Conclaves anyone?

Arco-spam!

Immolate still useless.

Yeah, you can transfer it


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 Still Standing wrote:
Immolate still useless.

Are you touched?

60 points for a TL-MM immolator is useless? Heck, even with Flamer it is still good.


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Amerikon wrote:

 S'jet wrote:
You can take 1 battle conclave for each priest/jacobus. 6 Battle Conclaves anyone?

Arco-spam!

What is that 625 points for 50 Arcos and 5 Priests which take up no slots?

Thanks for the summary, pretre. A lot of changes, a lot of to digest. I'll have to do a lot of thinking over the following weeks. The army looks like it will be fun/easy? to synergise/units synergies well, I like that.

Well, when I think about it, I guess I LIKE AoF changes for the following reasons (from my personal experience):
- Simulacrum is useful now, almost mandatory, grants double the amount of AoF (not really a +)
- AoF tests now are more reliable to pass
- AoF once per game and twice with Simulacrum aren't such a big nerf. I usually only make one-two successful tests per game

Way more changes than I expected. A points drop for the exorcist - wtf? Celestine now has hit and run - amazing. I'm actually relieved she can only ressurect once.

I agree with Pretre.. priests are just unbelievably good.. cheapest HQ in the game too? And they are still 0-5 and take up no slot!

On the downside - PEs and retributors hit with a nerf stick. WIll still take em though Once per game AOF does slightly sadden me as well, but its probably time to accept we now have a new codex.. 1st game on Sunday *bring it on*!

 pretre wrote:

Amerikon wrote:

 S'jet wrote:
You can take 1 battle conclave for each priest/jacobus. 6 Battle Conclaves anyone?

Arco-spam!

What is that 625 points for 50 Arcos and 5 Priests which take up no slots?

Add Jacobus and it's 825 for 60 Arcos and priests!

 troy_tempest wrote:
On the downside - PEs and retributors hit with a nerf stick. WIll still take em though

To be fair, PEs got cheaper and still suck. They didn't get nerfed. Instead, they just weren't fixed.


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Amerikon wrote:
What is that 625 points for 50 Arcos and 5 Priests which take up no slots?

Add Jacobus and it's 825 for 60 Arcos and priests!

 pretre wrote:
Yeah, you can transfer it


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 Still Standing wrote:
Immolate still useless.

Are you touched?

60 points for a TL-MM immolator is useless? Heck, even with Flamer it is still good.


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Amerikon wrote:

 S'jet wrote:
You can take 1 battle conclave for each priest/jacobus. 6 Battle Conclaves anyone?

Arco-spam!

What is that 625 points for 50 Arcos and 5 Priests which take up no slots?

It's just that, sadly, Immo is only 11/11/10 with 6++. And with all the AoE abilities we seem to have gotten and buffinf units I'll try to build a foot list. It's probably because it was carhammer in 5 edition and I want something totally different.

Just got it myself. Unfortunately, the darned thing isn't downloading.

Is it just because of the big file size, or might I have to do something like disable popup blockers?

meh_ wrote:

- Simulacrum is useful now, almost mandatory, grants double the amount of AoF (not really a +)

I'm not sure how many Acts of Faith are even worth the 10pts for a second attempt. Naturally, it seems that the Seras have the Act that I'd most like to use twice, but unfortunately they're the one unit that can't take a Simulacrum. It might turn out that the plain-Jane Battle Sisters "re-roll ones" act is the one most worth buying the Simulacrum for.

Lord of Nonsensical Crap wrote:
Just got it myself. Unfortunately, the darned thing isn't downloading.

Is it just because of the big file size, or might I have to do something like disable popup blockers?

If its from black libruary, i had probs. Try right click the download link, open in new tab.

Yeah everything I want to say has been covered by others, going to start looking for some alternate priest models now.

Right so now that I've digested the whole thing time to start fixing up my army list excels.

As priests are looking pretty awesome, how would you guys equip them do you think? keep them cheap, or gear 'em up?

Tried getting the eBook version and it won't accept my card. I think my bank is keeping it from going through. I'll just wait for the iTunes version instead then.

Wow alot to take in from the dex. Interesting 'fix' on the AoF, although I suppose it does scale now.

Anyone notice rhinos actually went up? And we lost the inferno rounds on the Immo HB...shame I liked them.

Pretty impressed overall. I must say i'm glad AoF are just a ld test, working out what I had to roll did feel like a real pain. Not sure it's worth losing the ability to try every turn, but it is more fluffy in the one-use aspect. HB Rets are dead sadly.

Are people gonna take stormbolters on their doms or has it gotta be melta all the way? The ignore cover for against Wave Serpents will be pretty sweet...

D

 S'jet wrote:
As priests are looking pretty awesome, how would you guys equip them do you think? keep them cheap, or gear 'em up?

They're probably best cheap and hiding in the back of their squad. +1 pt for a bolt pistol might be worth it.


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 evildrcheese wrote:
Anyone notice rhinos actually went up? And we lost the inferno rounds on the Immo HB...shame I liked them.

I did notice the 5pt bump. It's a pretty silly change, since it doesn't seem to line up at all with the recosting of other vehicles. And the removal of the special HB rounds makes the HB Immo even more absurd. Now it's what, 20 pts more than an identical SM Razorback?

In the WD list, The MM Immo was the only one worth taking and now that they (inexplicably) slashed 20pts off the price, it's even more of a bargain. MM Immo spam with 5 lady BSSs packing Flamer/Hvy Flamer? That could be a pretty slick list.

I just made a 15 page PDF version with the rules. Woohoo



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Condemnor is cool. Unit takes perils if you hit. Not wound, just hit.

Oh you have a psyker in that unit. I hit you. Go ahead and take a perils.

Condemnor boltgun is much cheaper now too..

 pretre wrote:

Condemnor is cool. Unit takes perils if you hit. Not wound, just hit.

Oh you have a psyker in that unit. I hit you. Go ahead and take a perils.

This will be FAQ'd.... AGAIN....

I believe it was on hit before in the GK codex or WD, then the FAQ changed it to on wound only making it useless.

such a pain need the rules for a game this weekend but no cash for a while!

redeyed wrote:
such a pain need the rules for a game this weekend but no cash for a while!

This is why god made credit cards.

Printing my rules only (4 pages to a page) version now.

haha I dont dare put anything else on mine for now!

I will prob just use the WD as its a friendly game and update later

 MadCowCrazy wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Condemnor is cool. Unit takes perils if you hit. Not wound, just hit.

Oh you have a psyker in that unit. I hit you. Go ahead and take a perils.

This will be FAQ'd.... AGAIN....

I believe it was on hit before in the GK codex or WD, then the FAQ changed it to on wound only making it useless.

At the rate they FAQ stuff right now we're safe for at least 3-4 months!

Nice, we got Adamantium Will back. Every unit with Shield of Faith has it now!

One interesting thing I noticed is that Seraphim squads are not required to take a Superior, who is now an upgrade. Something to do with their models being gone, I guess.

For anyone PM'ing me, I'm not going to send out the PDF. Support our army and buy it from black library.

Downloading my copy now. How easy it it to print a copy off?