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Pros
- Really nice gunplay
- The game sounds good
- Personally, I like the new control layout
- Domination is fun, not to big, not too small (at least on this map)
- Low tier guns are very noob-friendly (good for bringing new players into the game)

Cons
- So, have DICE replaced blue tint with dust?
- Target acquisition (ie, finding a target in dust) seems far more difficult than in Bf3
- Textures are awful (hopefully because its in Beta, if not, HD texture pack like in Bf3)
- Vehicle controls seem difficult (only had a few minutes in a tank)
- Very glitchy (saw someone swimming over land, ammo boxes flying across the map, invisible gun glitch on spawn)
- Spawning seems broken
- On conquest, 12 players is not nearly enough

Overall, I enjoyed myself while playing the Beta, bearing in mind the experience would improve tenfold when playing on either a next Gen. Console or a PC. Many of the issues stated earlier will HOPEFULLY be fixed before launch.

My 2 cents.

I'm kinda hopeing it was made of xbox one/ps4 and they just scaled it back for xbox/ps3.

12 players on each side or 12 total?

 Ma55ter_fett wrote:
I'm kinda hopeing it was made of xbox one/ps4 and they just scaled it back for xbox/ps3.

12 players on each side or 12 total?

12 players each side.

I'm assuming DICE reallyyyy scaled it back for current gen.

Half the cons seem kinda unfair given it is a beta...

Is it just the preorder beta up now?

I played it for about an hour and a half yesterday on PS3. So far, it's been refreshing. I like the new map and the new controls. Weapons are cool, also. Nice playing as/against the Chinese - brings plenty of new things to the table. I also like the display and HUD much more. So far, the main gripe I have would be the vehicle controls - I hate using the analog sticks as the throttle/brake.

And I know it's just a Beta, but man...it didn't look as good as I thought it would. I'm pretty sure the BF3 Beta looked better than this one

Also, I only played conquest. I'll check out Domination after work. I loved Dom on BF3, so I'm pretty hopeful.

 The Dark Apostle wrote:
Is it just the preorder beta up now?

Premium members and those who have MOH: Warfighter.

Norn King wrote:I'm assuming DICE reallyyyy scaled it back for current gen.

They have said before that yes, it was scaled back for current gen.

Honestly don't see why people would buy it on this generation of consoles with the knowledge that it's designed for next gen.

Edit - Nevermind

If you have premium you are also able to get into the beta early.

I like it so far. Only thing that bugs me is only 4 tiny little pillars hold the skyscraper up. I was hoping it would take more work to bring down, like having a recon guy with C4 sneak in and take out the supports.

I'm on the 360 and would love to try rolling with some dakkaites. My tag is xXxOOO7xXx. (yes I know its weird but the original name Xbox gave me was something like twinklestar64 and I had to come up with something on the spot.)

On the PC and the nextgen, it is 10 supports that have to be taken down and not 4.

Open beta starts on the 4th I think.

I'll give it a shot but I'm going to wait until I can pick up and xbox one or ps4 to buy the game.


Also I think theres a 10 upgrade option or something for people wo buy the 360/ps3 version and want to upgrade to the xbox one/ps4 but I'm not sure

I played it on the PC for a few hours yesterday. Enjoyed it alot. Some bugs that really annoy me though but its in beta so I can deal with it.

Extreme lag for the first 10 seconds or so after joining a server
when I launch the game its in windowed mode and I have to click the screen a ton to get it out of windowed mode to actually play the game. (I play in full screen and it loads like I alt tabbed to something else. Problem still happens when I set to windowed mode)

Also I hate having to find a server in a browser. Just adds way to much time to everything.

I found an annoying thing with the tank...when on the coastline with the tank (US side) trying to destroy the pillars my tank was slowly slipping into the ocean when I wasnt on a slope or anything.

Well be getting the pc version of this. Is just too much prettier and more feature rich.

Ive been playing it on and off. Its pretty decent for a FPS like this. I get bored of these rather quickly though because it feels like the same thing over and over and over again. And I end up asking myself "whats the point again?" But overall seems like a cool game.




Funny note, I was running into a building, when suddenly I felt strange, like vertigo or something. I realised it was because the building was coming down right at me. I had enough time to shout "CRAP!" and turn around to get smushed

The only thing I dislike is only giving us 2 weapons per weapon class and no customisation, really what's the point if we can't balance the guns and fix half the bugs?

2 weapons per class? The support has a LMG - A pistol and an Airburst?
Most of the classes have about 3 lethal weapons? The recon class has 5 slots in total!
And the customization is yet to come bearing in mind its the Beta!

I already customized my AK-12 by gettting rid of the red dot sight and having iron sights (the iron sights are beast)

 The Dark Apostle wrote:
The only thing I dislike is only giving us 2 weapons per weapon class and no customisation, really what's the point if we can't balance the guns and fix half the bugs?

Its a beta and a free one at that.

Has it been freezing anyone elses 360? It keeps doing it to mine and a friends during matches

 DA's Forever wrote:
Has it been freezing anyone elses 360? It keeps doing it to mine and a friends during matches

Yes, it's a common problem on all platforms(PC, PS3, 360).

Good to know. Thanks, thought my 360 was going down hill.

 Optio wrote:
2 weapons per class? The support has a LMG - A pistol and an Airburst?
Most of the classes have about 3 lethal weapons? The recon class has 5 slots in total!
And the customization is yet to come bearing in mind its the Beta!

I think he means there's very few weapons you can unlock for each class. Like there's only two AR's, two LMG's etc.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:

 Optio wrote:
2 weapons per class? The support has a LMG - A pistol and an Airburst?
Most of the classes have about 3 lethal weapons? The recon class has 5 slots in total!
And the customization is yet to come bearing in mind its the Beta!

I think he means there's very few weapons you can unlock for each class. Like there's only two AR's, two LMG's etc.

You unlock only two ARs, LMGs, PDWs, and bolt action sniper rifles.

However you unlock two each of Shotguns, Designated Marksman Rifles, and Carbines--which are usable on all classes.

I'm pretty sure they'll add more weapons for the full game.

On the 360....


Cons....

Doesn't look like a next gen game or even a good current gen game (graphic wise).

Textures are not so great.

Textures are the worst on the conquest map especially after the building falls (everything for blocks around becomes a flat white).

Shadows look like they came from a bad (original) xbox game.

Not enough players on the conquest map. They need like twice the current number of players per side at least.

Can't aim down enough with the sniper rifle. Meaning that you can't use the sniper rifle while prone on top of a building because you can't aim low enough to hit anyone on the ground.

They seem to have gotten rid of bullet drop with the sniper rifles? As well as the bullet travel time? I didn't use the recon class a whole lot but it seemed that case.

Less destruction allowed in the enviroments.

People die to quick for me to ever use the paddles on them. It seems like you have a 2 second window.


Pros...

I like the domination game type. There are just enough players on the map at once to allow for fast paced battles without feeling crowded.

I like that you can counter knife an enemy. So far I have stabbed a half dozen people with their own blades when they were foolish enough to bring a knife to a gun fight.

I like the gun play, the higher amount of recoil compared the COD takes some getting used to but is ultimately rewarding and feels good.

I like the manteling animation even though it sometimes bugs out on me.


All in all I think I'll give this a try when it comes out for the next gen consoles or when I get a really good gaming rig. Personally though I think it will be a waste of money to play it on current gen consoles.

The number of players on Conquest is pretty much the same we see now with the 360/PS3.

I'm loving the lower revive times. Medic trains are dead--and good riddance!
Recoil seems to be bugged a bit. Turn Aim Assist off and it becomes a very different game. It wanted to continually adjust for chest shots rather than headshots, even while I was aiming for the head. Tested it for about two hours yesterday with a bud and the DMR/bolt actions.

Bipods have always presented issues for sniping and continue to do so. I advise though not going prone when atop buildings. You get the same bonus for crouching and bipodding as you do proning and bipodding.
The zoom is an issue though as you get the least possible magnification for the bolt actions.

Supposedly at rank 10, the "Gold Battlepack" that you get will give you a weapon not currently listed in the groupings(preference for your most played class) along with a few attachments and potentially a gadget.

How do you counter a knife attack? Ive been knifed a couple times now, and Id like to be a badass and just shank them back.

My fav class is the support with the LMG. Seriously, when I get a good kill zone, I murder people like crazy, and Ive been racking up suppression points like a bamf. I killed an entire squad last night twice and got ribbons for it in domination, which made me a happy camper. But I also agree on the shooting angle when prone. Its fine if youre on the ground, but up in the air and you cant aim low enough down, so Ill have to squat instead and risk being an easier target.


Like gripe though. Pistols....WTF? I played in one match where several guys where zipping around with just pistols and they were butchering myself and my team like we were in the movie Equilibrium or something. Talk about "Hyper Realism" eh? It was rather annoying to be shot down instantly, and 1 or 2 other squad mates just to see the guy was using his pistol

Reminded me of why I stopped playing BF3.


But overall, I'm impressed with the game. It made some advances in quality, gameplay, and overall feel without taking away what makes the Battlefield series fun to play. I may be picking this up.

 KingCracker wrote:
How do you counter a knife attack? Ive been knifed a couple times now, and Id like to be a badass and just shank them back.

You have to be knifed from the front. When you are then you get this HUGE prompt on your screen saying 'PRESS B TO COUNTERATTACK' and instakill the person.

It basically makes frontknifing useless because there is no actual benefit to it, just downsides.

My fav class is the support with the LMG. Seriously, when I get a good kill zone, I murder people like crazy, and Ive been racking up suppression points like a bamf. I killed an entire squad last night twice and got ribbons for it in domination, which made me a happy camper. But I also agree on the shooting angle when prone. Its fine if you're on the ground, but up in the air and you cant aim low enough down, so Ill have to squat instead and risk being an easier target.

The trick with being prone on a ledge or something is to ensure you don't have a bipod with a LMG. It seems counter to what you might think but the bipods are still not functioning properly(same issues in BF3) and you're better off with a foregrip(which you can unlock for the Mk. 100 via a Bronze Battlepack at levels 3 or 5) since you can fire while moving as well.

Like gripe though. Pistols....WTF? I played in one match where several guys where zipping around with just pistols and they were butchering myself and my team like we were in the movie Equilibrium or something. Talk about "Hyper Realism" eh? It was rather annoying to be shot down instantly, and 1 or 2 other squad mates just to see the guy was using his pistol

I have it on fairly good authority that the people are running crazy with pistols are potentially using modded controllers and will be dealt with accordingly. DICE is watching Battlelog and can track rounds fired v. rounds that should have been fired for specific weapons versus the time played.

At first I didn't like that you lost all the ammo in you mag when you reloaded...but I actually enjoy it now. It's a new feeling for me to constantly pay attention to your ammo capacity, instead of mindlessly reloading after shooting a couple rounds.

It also helps keep a squad varied. When I had a group of friends, we always had someone playing as a Support guy, tossing ammo boxes out.