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I would make Disruption add a Fury to enemy beasts per hit, and cortex damage weapons should damage Spirit.

While I understand that we cannot have quite as a distrupting effect on beasts than on warjacks, due to beasts being a lot more integral to the warlock's operation than jacks, all this tech that was designed before Hordes NEEDs to do something. As it stands, it makes things too matchup dependent for my liking for many choices in the Cygnar codex.

Serious Answer

Create some sort of system for more frequent rules and balance updates.

Auxuliary Answer

Either ban massive pauldrons, or make them mandatory.

Tertiary Answer

I would kill off casters and charactesr in the fluff.


I would explain that the nature of the fantasy world means that they might come back (so that they could get an Epic version for example) and that they're still totally usable in every table and tournament. Nothing at all is stopping you from using this 'historical figure' in our ever-evolving games.

However, the character would be dead. Soul on Urcaen. Gone. No more plot revelations.They're dead.


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 Laughing Man wrote:
Which is why stuff like this keeps popping up?

Has anyone translated the runes?

Not that I've seen yet. I've got the Cyriss font on my computer, but I'm too damn lazy to actually sit down and translate it myself.

There's a cyriss font... well then... that's a thing (runs off to the interwebs)

Moar epic stuffs.

Epic Reinholdt!

Epic Cryxchev!

Epic Darius's Ear!

But they've already done eReinholdt.

A Khador Arc Node.
Seriously do thy not know how to scavenge? Pick one up from a Flipping wrecked bone chicken If an old hag can do it in her bakc yard, Im sure some of khadors best engineers can.
Also, Jacks that seem less human based. Maybe odd jacks that have four arms or have spider legs.
Dinosaurs, Because eveerything is better with Dinos

I think, given the nature of how Arc Nodes actually work, you have to specially tune the Node to your specific magic. Cygnar, the Protectorate, Ios, and Khador all have unique styles of magic. They aren't compatible with the same Arc Node configuration.

Khador probably sees this extra effort as not worth it. Better to melt down the Arc Node to make more Cortexes instead.

But the old witch did it. She made an Arc Node from scavenging it.

Yes, she did it herself. But she isn't affiliated with anything official in Khador. She probably isn't going to share anything about how she got that Arc Node working and nobody would be stupid enough to ask her.

Khador simply sees Arc Nodes as being a waste of precious resources that could be used to make Cortexes instead. They don't have the luxury of making, or scavenging, arc nodes when they need every gram of those materials to be made into Cortexes. They're so desperate they aren't even retiring Bezerker cortexes that are hundreds of years old, when anybody else would have long ago scrapped them.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
But the old witch did it. She made an Arc Node from scavenging it.

She's the spirit of Khador. She does what she wants.

Note that she hasn't taught anyone else to use a Feast of Crows

I JUST WANT AN ARC NODE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plz, just give us one, you can make it a Char Jack.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I JUST WANT AN ARC NODE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Plz, just give us one, you can make it a Char Jack.

We have one that's a character jack.

I'm just kidding. It would be cool to have one.

Wouldn't it be cool for all the factions to have overpriced character versions of stuff they don't have?

Khador >>> Arc Node
Protectorate >>> Pathfinder

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
But the old witch did it. She made an Arc Node from scavenging it.

The old witch is an ancient non-human demi-god who draws power from the lands of Khador. I don't think that's quite a fair comparison.

While the idea of an Arc-node isn't so bad for Khador, I think these sorts of deficiencies help to add a bit more difference to factions, just like there aren't any Weapon Masters (except Sloan) or heavy infantry in Cygnar, no Weapon Attachments in Protectorate, and so on. There are small deficiencies that help mark factions apart, even if they're not hard and fast rules.

I may be wrong, But are not All Arc Nodes light?
Maybe Khador can be the one with the Heavy Arc

The Protectorate has the Guardian. its a heavy jack with an Arc Node. Sadly its slightly overpriced.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I may be wrong, But are not All Arc Nodes light?
Maybe Khador can be the one with the Heavy Arc

Ret also has the Phoenix. That thing is vicious.

Retribution has the Phoenix - a 10-point monstrosity.

Cyriss has individual MEN who are arc nodes.

I think Ret has the most Arc nodes period.

Also make vinter a playable warcaster

Vinter actually doesn't have any magical ability I recently learned. He's just so damn good with a sword he beat an entire empire of animal abusers into submission.

fishy bob wrote:
I would ban about half the users on the PP forum

Funny you mention that. I went there for a rules clarification once, and got nothing but arse replies and personal attacks. I mean, I frequent 4chan, so this isn't really something that gets to me at all, but I was a bit disgusted at the lack of moderation on the official forums.

Never going back. Nothing of value lost.

Khador have arc nodes. Every single khadoran carries an arc node in the form of an axe, and they all channel PAIN!!!

Serious answer. No to khador arc nodes. It's one of their signature traits. However, I'm quite for a 'meat' node. Have a grey lord solo that can channel his warcasters spells. Kinda like the circle gallows grove. If it's or girth tech, it might be funny if that thing can swallow souls too. Fits khador nicely!

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Also make vinter a playable warcaster

'I win' would be his special rule. Vinter is like toruk - simply far too badass for the tabletop.

If you're interested though, there were alternative history cards released in mi1 for some casters (kind of a what if scenario) - vlad was with the protectorate, eiryss was a legion warlock, Magnus and Stryker swapped roles, the old witch served the circle etc. and Vinter was playable. Believe me though, he was a monster.

 Necroshea wrote:

fishy bob wrote:
I would ban about half the users on the PP forum

Funny you mention that. I went there for a rules clarification once, and got nothing but arse replies and personal attacks. I mean, I frequent 4chan, so this isn't really something that gets to me at all, but I was a bit disgusted at the lack of moderation on the official forums.

Never going back. Nothing of value lost.

I hear you. The amount of assholery that takes place in the army list sections is the reason I never registered.

fishy bob wrote:

 Necroshea wrote:

fishy bob wrote:
I would ban about half the users on the PP forum

Funny you mention that. I went there for a rules clarification once, and got nothing but arse replies and personal attacks. I mean, I frequent 4chan, so this isn't really something that gets to me at all, but I was a bit disgusted at the lack of moderation on the official forums.

Never going back. Nothing of value lost.

I hear you. The amount of assholery that takes place in the army list sections is the reason I never registered.

Really? Hmm. I guess I never bothered to head into list sections. Too much group think.

Old Witch gets an Arc-Node cause she worked for the precursor to Circle. She was there before there was a Khador. Just like Asphyxious was in the Schardes before there was a Cryx.

Also, since it's already in the works ( I think), the Merc Cephalyx contract would be interesting. This new unit/caster from Part 2 of the Equilibrium fluff seems to have some mind control abilities to allow it to run a Merc contract. Seems to have the spells influence and maybe crippling grasp.

 gunslingerpro wrote:

fishy bob wrote:

 Necroshea wrote:

fishy bob wrote:
I would ban about half the users on the PP forum

Funny you mention that. I went there for a rules clarification once, and got nothing but arse replies and personal attacks. I mean, I frequent 4chan, so this isn't really something that gets to me at all, but I was a bit disgusted at the lack of moderation on the official forums.

Never going back. Nothing of value lost.

I hear you. The amount of assholery that takes place in the army list sections is the reason I never registered.

Really? Hmm. I guess I never bothered to head into list sections. Too much group think.

That's what I said. Assholery

I would make Reeves a little more worthwhile. Cause the models are just so pretty.

fishy bob wrote:

 gunslingerpro wrote:

fishy bob wrote:

 Necroshea wrote:

fishy bob wrote:
I would ban about half the users on the PP forum

Funny you mention that. I went there for a rules clarification once, and got nothing but arse replies and personal attacks. I mean, I frequent 4chan, so this isn't really something that gets to me at all, but I was a bit disgusted at the lack of moderation on the official forums.

Never going back. Nothing of value lost.

I hear you. The amount of assholery that takes place in the army list sections is the reason I never registered.

Really? Hmm. I guess I never bothered to head into list sections. Too much group think.

That's what I said. Assholery

I would make Reeves a little more worthwhile. Cause the models are just so pretty.

No EMorvahna for you?

 malfred wrote:
No EMorvahna for you?

I hate her in the fluff, and I prefer living things over constructs, so I'm not a fan of baldur either. I hate that those are the go to casters of the faction, and get included in every reply as what you should be fielding to questions like "I suck, how do I get better?".

I hope we get a solid egrayle some day.

 Necroshea wrote:

 malfred wrote:
No EMorvahna for you?

I hate her in the fluff, and I prefer living things over constructs, so I'm not a fan of baldur either. I hate that those are the go to casters of the faction, and get included in every reply as what you should be fielding to questions like "I suck, how do I get better?".

I hope we get a solid egrayle some day.

I'm not referring to eMorvahna as a "go-to." I'm talking about the evil Reeves tactic with her.

Bring War Wolves. Let them die (don't let them get eaten).

Bring them back with the feat with a charge lane at a 'caster.

Shoot with Reeves, Scales of Fate to make it stick. War Wolves charge out of activation.

It's terrifyingly sick.

Page Five.


Too many players just seem to forget their second-degree detector when they read that one.