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2013/10/14 18:13:07
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
They originally came from Maelstrom on the Marcus Beli forums: Spots in Red are assumptions based on the translation. For original spanish text, head to the Marcus Beli threads.
DWARF RUMORS http://www.marcusbeli.es/ElBaluarte/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=21298 Dwarfs are due in "early 2014"(corroborating other sources saying March 2014) Dwarfs news, next army to make their appearance could include: OrcCrusher / Tunneler (combo kit) Runic Anvil / War Altar (combo box) Gyrocopter Squadron Box Thunderers / Crossbowmen / Dwarf Warriors Box (10) Hammerers / Ironbreaker Box Trollslayers??? / Brotherhood of Grimmir Box Longbeards / Rangers Box
Maelstrom wrote:If you want to sign up have said that the cercenagoblins, the Trollslayers fans and King Trollslayer are recycled in new book.
Maelstrom wrote:Runes will work as magical objects seems to be. The magic phase goes as the storm of magic, successful coups, dysfunctions and others (at least from what is left of Edition) Not sure if the dwarves are the last army to renew.
Maelstrom wrote:I am having very little time because I'm of hospitals (not I a very close relative). I will continue getting what you can.
-They have confirmed that the dwarves have a mechanical "Monster" at the height of the steam tank. It was called months ago orcs Mauler, right now to know. You have a gun that works as a diamond-tipped as the subway tunneling fat bugs and other more targeted weapon for infantry-oriented. It carries crew and some options for sieges and armor upgrades. -Runed objects are magical objects and its power varies depending on the configuration of the army. They are quite powerful. -There are plastic Trollslayers that seem to come out of Avelorn. -They continue to talk about a monstrous infantry for dwarves, the sentinels that I told you. -Do not have said will have more boxes of infantry, at least for now in plastic. -The dwarves used ancestral advance, ancestral tort and ancestral stubbornness (impassivity). -It loses prominence the shot and we again see dwarven combat-oriented.
Maelstrom wrote:About the Trollslayers I was referring to the type of box that we will see, not that have been travelos suddenly xD. Sorry for the confusion.
Now transcribe literally some things that they said:
"You won't leave the House without the new Yunke" "Against dwarves, you won't know if it is better to go for them or wait to die under his"magic" "Valaya, valaya everywhere" "The Trollslayers finally are Trollslayers . Demonslayer is playable."
Well after awhile of descartes and titanic struggle to see what is approaching the truth... even missing seems to be at least 4 mesecillos out of its cave dwarves. However, apparently already is going saying the launch and its volume of minis. Here I bring you the latest saying that we would see at the end of January 2014.
Quote/comment/Note: Barbaslargas/Montaraces /... Trollslayers Martilladores/Rompehierros Catapult/Lanzahachas Yunke/Altar of Valaya Sentinels/Squadron gyrocopters Mauler of Orcs/TBM (huge) Dwarven Priestess Valaya Engineer special character iron fist Lord of the dwarves
"Things you hear on Silvan, but we must remember that Dwarves out before, in early 2014:"
Wood Elves Rules
Army wide ASF ( elves only ) - Hawkeye ( only elves , reroll one to hit, single shots) - Spirit of the Forest ( unstable magical attacks, hatred , 5 + ward save , harmony with the forest ) - Elven Bow ( S4 , rapid fire , extra row ) - Saearath ( cc weapon , +1 Strength , + 1 SEspecial , spears ) - Explorers / Ambushers ( NDT : not what it is )
Forest Guard : Elvish Bow , Hawkeye Eternal Guard : S4 , Saearath , L8 Light Knights : same Driades : forms of combat . warhawk riders : Elven Bow , Hawk Eye , launches Wild Riders of Kournous : Spirit of the forest, Saearath , L8 , S4 , A2 ( idk if directly go deer) Arboreal : Spirit of the forest , as Banshees : Spirit of the forest, Lamento ( breath attack ) , terror . Eagle Claws : same Wardancer : same , except for some changes that do not know . Forest : Forest Spirit , Bow Elvish . Men Tree: Like I Treeman Ancient : Hate Eternal , and nose to more
Wood Elves Miniatures (some translation issues)
- Big Box Treeman Kit with options for Durthu or Treeman Ancient??? - Great Dragon Box Forest / Lord of the Forest / Sisters of Twilight - Box in of Wild Riders of Kournous with Stag mounts - Box of Wild riders of Kurnous (apparently nothing to do with the look of today, more fey and spiritual) - Box Wardancer / Forest - Riders Box Falcon / Eagle Claws - Box Eternal Guard / Forest Banshees - Blister Treesinger - Blister Lord of Forests - Blister Skaw the Falconer
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2013/10/14 18:26:49
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
Sounds like good news for Dwarf players and Wood Elf players. I'm not surprised that WE are getting ASF, seeing how the darkies got it too. That's going to happen regardless of this rumor being right or wrong though. I also expect Ward's name on the cover of the WE book, as his is on the HE and DE book too. These are theories based on the past two elf books, not actual knowledge.
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2013/10/14 18:52:12
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
I call BS on the Warrior/CB/Thunderer and Longbeard/Ranger boxes. Why? They already have two boxes that make all of these units. I could see a "squadron" of gyrocopters. Altar getting a new kit w/a combo makes sense. I could see a "heavy infantry" box that combines the Ironbreakers and Hammers. And maybe one other "new" unit box. Either way sounds good. I'm a little sad though that they might be getting their book right before 9th but Necrons and GK are doing fine for 40k so I guess there is hope.
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2013/10/14 18:57:03
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
Hulksmash wrote: I call BS on the Warrior/CB/Thunderer and Longbeard/Ranger boxes. Why? They already have two boxes that make all of these units. I could see a "squadron" of gyrocopters. Altar getting a new kit w/a combo makes sense. I could see a "heavy infantry" box that combines the Ironbreakers and Hammers. And maybe one other "new" unit box. Either way sounds good. I'm a little sad though that they might be getting their book right before 9th but Necrons and GK are doing fine for 40k so I guess there is hope.
There was a time that someone would have called BS on a new Dark Elf Warrior kit.
2013/10/14 19:25:36
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
Hulksmash wrote: No, they added swordsmen. I can understand that one. The new boxes wouldn't add any new unit type.
Not to mention that that box was about a decade older than the current dwarf box.
The box might have been a decade older but there was no updated High Elf Spearmen, Archer, or Silver Helm Knight boxes. The point that I'm making is that people would not have believed such a thing.
With the overwhelming plastic release that we're seeing with Dark Elves(a Black Guard/Executioner kit, Dark Rider/Warlock kit, the Warrior box, Witch Elves/Sisters of Slaughter box, the replaced Hydra), it's not incredibly far fetched to see the Dwarfs getting new troop kits.
2013/10/14 20:49:55
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
"Cosas que se oyen sobre silvanos, aunque debemos recordar que enanos sale antes, a principios de 2014: "
Free translation: "Here rumours on Wood Elves (silvanos), please note that the Dwarfs (nanos) are released before, early 2014."
@pretre: Can you obtain an original link, so we can get through the mess in the Wood Elf release translation?
Hulksmash wrote: I call BS on the Warrior/CB/Thunderer and Longbeard/Ranger boxes. Why? They already have two boxes that make all of these units.
That's simple: To sell 10 miniatures for the price of 16 in the old box. See Dark Elf Warriors.
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High Elf Rumors - April 2013
- Plastic huge Treeman —also can be used by WE—. It's been done since two years ago. It was thought only for WE but has been put into this wave for HE because of the lack of ideas. FALSE - Plastic Maidenguard-Avelorn. They share with Shadow Warriors: heavy armor, shiled, spear-halberd as in LOTR, great weapon and magic bows. Bodies for male and female. Shadow Warriors wear helms and cloaks and they are scouts. PARTIALLY TRUE - Monstruous Infantry, ¿Elementales? from Changing Islands. Options for all four elements. Maelström says this is the first time he hears about that. He's also received an email talking about MC with eagles. FALSE - Griffon/monster, Eltharion. FALSE - Blister Finecast: Alarielle, Teclis, Alith Anar, Belennaer. PARTIALLY TRUE - Blister Plastic: Warrior wizard from Hoeth, heroe on foot with lion cloak. PARTIALLY TRUE - New Batallion Box: more expensive: 10 shadow warriors/maiden, 20 spears, bolthrowe or however it's said in English and 8 silver helms. FALSE - No new model for Imrik and no drakes MC. Dragons can be placed as rare 1-3. FALSE
HE Rumors - April 2013
NEW STUFF:
-HE are going to get a new war machine that mixes RBT and dragon breath/flamethrower. Nobody told Maeltröm if its something independent or part of one of the flying chariots. He thinks that maybe a new war machine. FALSE -Some people now say there will be no MC, so maybe no dragons. Others, instead, keep saying there will be and they give very explicit details. Maelström is confident they can be one of the releases, since if they exist not there will be few new boxes and having two different infantry boxes is both unlikely and unnecessary. He will keep digging to see what he finds. SPECULATION -Next magic items disappear as you know them nowadays: Star Lance, Dragon Horn, Armor of Caledor (=Imrik coming back?). There is a new magic item: Book of the Phoenix. FALSE -Dragons have awaken. More and more powerful dragons. Imrik is coming back. FALSE -Phoenix King is going to battle. FALSE
NEW MODELS (from MORE likely to LESS likely):
1. BOX/KIT: Flying Chariot Sky Talons. Special character on it (Finubar/Eltharion) an option for RBT/flamethrower-dragon breath war machine. PARTIALLY TRUE 2. BOX/KIT: Phoenix/Phoenix Riders. Options for Special Character (Caradryan?), two/three types of Phoenix (Ice/Fire/Lone one). TRUE 3. BOX/KIT: Infantry: 10 Shadow Warriors/Maiden Guard (Some say they will be in two boxes and not in a multikit). DUPLICATE 4. BOX/KIT: Monstruos Cavalry "Fire Riders" (dragons) FALSE 5. BOX/KIT: Huge Dragon/Monster. Option for Imrik. FALSE 6. BOX/KIT: New War Machine (as the one in the flying chariot option B) FALSE 7. BOX/KIT: Great Eagles. FALSE 8. BOX/KIT: Two elven gods shrines. FALSE
BLISTERS (some to be seen on may, others in the future, others never). From MORE likely to LESS likely:
1. BLISTER Warrior Mage (some say with option to build Belannaer) TRUE 2. BLISTER Alarielle TRUE 3. BLISTER Teclis FALSE 4. BLISTER Random hero FALSE
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2013/10/14 21:02:05
Subject: Re:Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
Kroothawk wrote: Okay, so "safety" in Wood elf releases" is "Box" (caja).
Fixed.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Hmm.
Translated Dwarf Rumors from Maelstrom:
Maelstrom wrote:If you want to sign up have said that the cercenagoblins, the matadors fans and King matador are recycled in new book.
Maelstrom wrote:Runes will work as magical objects seems to be.
The magic phase goes as the storm of magic, successful coups, dysfunctions and others (at least from what is left of Edition)
Not sure if the dwarves are the last army to renew.
Maelstrom wrote:I am having very little time because I'm of hospitals (not I a very close relative). I will continue getting what you can.
-They have confirmed that the dwarves have a mechanical "Monster" at the height of the steam tank. It was called months ago orcs Mauler, right now to know. You have a gun that works as a diamond-tipped as the subway tunneling fat bugs and other more targeted weapon for infantry-oriented. It carries crew and some options for sieges and armor upgrades.
-Runed objects are magical objects and its power varies depending on the configuration of the army. They are quite powerful.
-There are plastic matadors that seem to come out of Avelorn.
-They continue to talk about a monstrous infantry for dwarves, the sentinels that I told you.
-Do not have said will have more boxes of infantry, at least for now in plastic.
-The dwarves used ancestral advance, ancestral tort and ancestral stubbornness (impassivity).
-It loses prominence the shot and we again see dwarven combat-oriented.
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Maelstrom wrote:About the matadors I was referring to the type of box that we will see, not that have been travelos suddenly xD. Sorry for the confusion.
Now transcribe literally some things that they said:
"You won't leave the House without the new Yunke"
"Against dwarves, you won't know if it is better to go for them or wait to die under his"magic"
"Valaya, valaya everywhere"
"The matadors finally are matadors. Matademonios is playable."
Automatically Appended Next Post: Well after awhile of descartes and titanic struggle to see what is approaching the truth... even missing seems to be at least 4 mesecillos out of its cave dwarves. However, apparently already is going saying the launch and its volume of minis. Here I bring you the latest saying that we would see at the end of January 2014.
Quote/comment/Note:
Barbaslargas/Montaraces /...
Matadors
Martilladores/Rompehierros
Catapult/Lanzahachas
Yunke/Altar of Valaya
Sentinels/Squadron gyrocopters
Mauler of Orcs/TBM (huge)
Dwarven Priestess Valaya
Engineer special character iron fist
Lord of the dwarves
Automatically Appended Next Post: Wow, any help I can get with trying to interpret the mess of auto-translate would be great. I'll update the first post.
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2013/10/14 21:18:44
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
From the sounds of it, "Matadors" are Trollslayers, and "Riders Halcon" are warhawk riders
Automatically Appended Next Post: "Matademonios" would thus be Daemonslayer
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2013/10/14 21:20:45
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
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2013/10/14 21:23:56
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
"Man Megacaja Tree (Giant) / Durtu / Millennium cashflow" sound like the Treeman, with options for Durthu or Choleric Millenial (Update for the treeman ancient? Just speculation for this last bit)
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2013/10/14 21:27:38
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
Okay, updated first post and highlighted spots we have changed.
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2013/10/14 21:37:51
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
Cantor of trees will be a treesinger, and I'm guessing where it says f4 it means Strength 4. Plus it sounds very much like Wild riders of Kurnous with get the option to ride stags.
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2013/10/14 21:39:01
Subject: Re:Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
Kroothawk wrote: Why not just switch to the Spanish GW website and check? Matadores are indeed trollslayers.
Because I don't know what Dwarf/WE units are by sight. lol
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2013/10/14 23:00:51
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
Honestly rather difficult to follow it all given the translation and whatnot - but presumably if i was a Dwarf or WE player i'd get it a lot more easily
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2013/10/15 02:27:34
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
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2013/10/15 15:33:16
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
I do hope this is true for wood elves I've been holding off the so long to start an army of them. Even bought the tree man from mierce minis in prep ages ago!!
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2013/10/15 16:08:11
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
same here darkmoon, i've been waiting and considering for over 6 months to start on WE and now this news seriously means putting money in a new piggy bank for stag riders!
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2013/10/15 16:17:05
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
Hope the Dwarf rumours are true never played fantasy but I'd love to start. The rumours also seem pretty plausible to me, they seem to be trend GW's going with recently.
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2013/10/15 19:53:50
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
Dysartes wrote: Please, for the love of Valaya, leave the Grungi alone until 9th edition, so the Runes won't be ruined by the current approsch to magic items...
Amen to that.
2013/10/15 22:28:36
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
RiTides wrote: Wait, what happened to Brettonia? I'd be happier with dwarfs then wood elves, but I thought Brets were predicted in there somewhere.
Sorry Brettonia is one of those armies which would make a TON of money because people love knights.. if they had decent models and halfway decent rules. So no, there will be no brettonia because the model queue is filled with horrible units no one needs or wants.
Brets can go with other things that would have made money if they released them on time, such as drop pods, thunderwolf cav, lots of nid units, riflemen dreads (non-fw), eldar jetbikes and I'm sure many others.. instead you get amazing design decisions such as mutilators, demon chariots, raptors, forsaken, warp smiths.. wow lots of chaos stuff, its as if they totally botched the WFB and 40k chaos releases!
almost forgot pyrovores, those were released instead of useful things too.
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2013/10/17 14:42:17
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
RiTides wrote: Wait, what happened to Brettonia? I'd be happier with dwarfs then wood elves, but I thought Brets were predicted in there somewhere.
A serious, non dicky answer is that Hastings says 2015 for Brets
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2013/10/17 22:05:23
Subject: Re:Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?
I sure hope they continue to use the current plastic wood elf glade guard and glade riders... have quite a few of those.... I'd be okay with new dryads though
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2013/10/17 22:20:43
Subject: Upcoming Warhammer Fantasy - Dwarves and Wood Elves?