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 pretre wrote:
Games workshop doesn't do market research.

I've always had a vague feeling that they go by Sales. As pure numbers. How many Special Editions of Astra militarum & Orks were sold, and how fast = Now they do limited edition.

Similar trends for anything that sold "a lot and fast".

They did not make the link between "good Codex" = more sales though (Necrons 4-5th Ed, etc) , so it must literally be: "How many of "A" did we sell? Make more of that"

My FLGS will be running an escalation campaign with special campaign character rules starting in a little over a month. The campaign will scale from 1500 pt and 1000 pt doubles to 2250 pt and 1500 pt doubles. The campaign character rules let you pick a non-unique HQ (or potentially a non-unique model or unit from elsewhere in the codex with 3 or less wounds/hull) and give them bonuses, special rules, and the opportunity to steal wargear from another codex. The full character rules are here.

At the moment I only have the BA dex, but would be very willing to grab the inquisition dex and less willing to shell out for others. This does represent an opportunity to make a flying nun again, at long last. And possibly more. I believe I could steal artificer armor and either a jump pack or bike from the blood angels. Take the cloak, mantle, rosarius, and eviscerator from the Sisters dex. Use campaign character rules to bump her str to 4, give the eviscerator fleshbane, and take something like fnp, rage, furious charge, or hit and run. All this together would take her cost to somewhere in the range of 230, however.

Worth it? And given that stack up of rerollable 2+/4++, EW, and possibly fnp would this risk going afoul of the campaign rule "don't be a douche?"

A canoness with rerollable and the ability to actually take good upgrades might be worth it.




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Man, you can take anything? Penitent Engine warlord!


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Oh crap. Canoness on TWC?

That would be possible. I'd...need a penitent engine. There are definitely a lot of possibilities. Stormraven Warlord for another thread maybe...

A tooled up priest might be able to work and not cost 230 pts.


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 pretre wrote:

Oh crap. Canoness on TWC?

....that might get me to buy the wolf dex.

Max is 20 points. Dammit.

Right, true. Bike and artificer are probably about as expensive as I'll be able to get.

According to the rules, you could spend 3 points to take a Penitent Engine as a Chariot for a Canoness... Muhahahahah


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Okay, check this out:

Canoness - 78
Cloak of St Aspira - 24
Eviscerator - 36
Bike - 24
Artificer - 24
186

Indomitable Belief Warlord Trait (5++)
+1 Strength (Character Bonus)
+1 Invulnerable (1 pt)
Bike (.5 pt)
Artificer (.5 pt)
Eternal Warrior (1 pt)
Hit and Run (1 pt)


2+ rerollable/4++ Rerollable Shield of Faith, T4 with Jink, Eternal Warrior and a S8 Armorbane Weapon.

Wouldn't the 1 pt in invulnerable only take her to a 5++ from the shield of faith 6++? I don't think I'd mind paying for tha rosarius to put that character point into fnp or fleshbane.

Warlord trait gives her a 5 and the ability gives her a four.

Rosarius doesn't reroll with the cloak.

Also, how much is an eldar jet bike?


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Cloak only allows armor and shield of faith.

Ahh! Right. Excellent. I knew there'd be some great advice here And that there are things I'd missed.

I don't have the eldar codex, that was definitely something I was thinking about. It'd miss out on the artificer armor though.

You could take the jet bike instead of the bike for te same number of choices. I'm guessing it's still 20/24 as well.

Friend tells me it's even cheaper. Power weapon cost. That's...that's awesome. Still, I'd lose out on the artificer.

With DA she might be able to get one of the black knight bikes with the plasma dealies.

Why would you lose artificer? Can you only buy from one codex?

Yeah... honestly with the ability to have armor rerollable at all times, it's really hard to beat any 2+ armor and a mobility-improving item.

Runners up might be a Frost Sword with the better AP upgrade. That would give you a +1S AP2 weapon that swings at initiative.


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Actually, would you be able to (if you went with Tau) be able to buy weapons that normally go on a crisis suit?

From one other codex's wargear list, yeah.

You could also go GK, pick up relentless instead of EW, tank hunter, a psycannon, but that codex has no mobility option :(

They can't take a teleporter as an upgrade?

Don't think any of their HQ characters have that, nor is it in the generic war-gear list.

(If you can take any unit's upgrade, the obvious answer would be grav-cannon + grav-amp and artificer armor from SM.)


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So the wording seems open to abuse though:

"Choose any non-Named, non-unique unit from your codex HQ selections. Alternately, an infantry model
(including jump infantry, jet pack infantry, etc.) that is normally purchased as part of a squad may be
selected at its “additional models” point cost. The model gains the “independent character” type in
addition to its normal type. "

Would that allow you to pick a command squad and gain the benefits on every model? (I'm assuming no.)


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Because a battle conclave would be amazing if they all got +1S, +1W, a 4++ on the DCAs, EW, and better AP or something crazy like that.

Inquisition has some interesting gear but it's mostly stuff that I can just ally in a cheap inquisitor for, so probably not worth it.

I believe you only get to pick one model. That might just be my preconception though.

The other interesting choice would be an IG tank commander. A LR with some of those upgrades could do some nasty things. Most wouldn't apply, but you could get a 4++ on an AV14 model.


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Actually, the more I think of it the more I think building the biggest most-badass hero might be the wrong tack.

You could instead do something like:

Crusader, on a bike with a frost axe = 66 pts. (Assuming 2 pieces isn't 2 points?)

Give him +1S, Shred and Extra wound. (I'm assuming non-standard character is also 1 pt.)

Or do the same with a DCA and a sword, keeping the model cheap, but effective at dealing with enemy squads of regular dudes.

With a DCA, you could even just not put any upgrades on to pay 18 points for a 2W model with 3 S5 AP2 attacks at I6, rerollable. She'd need a squad to be in, but... 18 points for that...

YOu couldn't get a 4++ on a LRBT, they can't get Shield of Faith.


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You should probably start a different thread for this though.


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Seeing how much space it is taking up.

It is taking up a lot of space...I'm pretty satisfied with using an EW Biker Canoness with Eviscerator though. I'll run it by the organizers, and start a new thread if they don't approve her. Thanks for the help, everyone!

So, weirdly, my Blood angels had a game AGAINST Sisters of battle a few weeks ago and I finally got the video edited together. It's not the narrative type that I usually post, just a fun game.

So, anyone looking forward to the new Kickstarter tomorrow?

I haven't got much to throw at it, but i will try... =P

Meh, I'm of two minds on it. I like the idea, but I dislike the execution of their KSs.

 Celtic Strike wrote:
So, weirdly, my Blood angels had a game AGAINST Sisters of battle a few weeks ago and I finally got the video edited together. It's not the narrative type that I usually post, just a fun game.

Thanks great report - enjoyed that alot - Sheld of Faith saves - awesoem when they are yours

Not to derail too much, but I wrote up a hasty piece of campaign prologue about the biker Smashbabe from a few posts up. Figured I'd shameless promote it.

What's everyone think of Skitarii re: Sisters? Potential choice for allies with their crazy specialized shooting?

Skitarii rangers have some nice potential as fire support, and... well. Those chocobo knights look like they'd be a great way to screen a penitent engine rush!

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Skitarii rangers have some nice potential as fire support, and... well. Those chocobo knights look like they'd be a great way to screen a penitent engine rush!

Yeah, i can see a pretty good combo there, also depending on what other Units AdMech will get.

I can somehow expect some heavy tank, or at least something durable (Cyber-warriors? 3+ Save and FNP etc?). At the moment there is quite a big "Glass canon" feel about the army, but that would not be too much of a downside... Just thinking it might not combine well with our T3..

I was thinking about ally potential as well, but then a fluff thought occurred to me. Don't the AdMech and AS not get along very well? I mean sure the AdMech keeps our cranky Exorcists in tune and gear, but besides that, there's that whole Machine God thing to think about.

Or am I misremembering again? (I hope so, those infantry models are sweet.)