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I won' t be in until Saturday morning so I'm cool with that after round 2.

Iron hands is cool... but that's not how the list works : )

More thoughts on my Sisters army...

Celestine continues to be a solid HQ choice. The ability to raise again on the next turn has on two occasions secured me a victory point on the final turn (both games winning by a single point),

The Repressor is amazing. That AV13 front armour and heavy flamer makes a difference every time. Either it survives and gets my unit onto an objective quick or the enemy uses its strongest weapons to pop it (leaving my Exorcists etc alive).

Exorcists are super unpredictable. They are also a threat on the table. The models catches the eye and they can take out anything. Even if they don't do loads of damage it again attracts enemy attention.

Dominions. Outflanking. Melta-a-go-go. A must.

Small units. Always in vehicles. My only concern of this tactic is that it leaves the Seraphim as the only reasonable target for blast weapons (Guard especially). Hydras would mince them turn 1. But everything has a weakness.

Overall, love my army. Don't love the cost. A shame that the more unique units read like crap on the page.

That's why I don't use Seraphim.

Don't forget Dominions can scout. 3 Dominions is one hell of an alpha-strike.

You tank everything then?

Seraphim's have always been useful for me and the 'what if' of blast templates hasn't put me off yet. And the models are excellent. A big pull for me.

Agreed on the scouting. I'm currently playing at 1000 points. I'll certainly be adding more Dominions as the points go up.

Not sure about the third Heavy slot - either another Exorcist or the Strike Fighter to rinse AP3. I would love to run a unit of Penitent Engines but that'd be expensive in points; there's part of me that believes the sight of them charging up the field would be a huge distraction to the enemy force as well as much fun. Oh, but they're big metal models. Sod that.

Yes and no.
I will sometimes run a blob of SOB with priests or an allied blob as foot. The rest is tanks.

Penitent Engines are bad. Consider Retributors in a Bastion for your third heavy.

I rarely scout my domms. I always outflank with them and it has worked out really well expect once.

I love Seraphim as well. They feel like the "archetypal sister unit" Celestine adds a lot to their effectiveness and without her they do suffer a bit. I wish there was a relic jump pack that granted the user H&R and some other small bonuses so the cannones could also be used in Seraphim squads effectively.

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
I rarely scout my domms. I always outflank with them and it has worked out really well expect once.

What?
If you have first turn, why wouldn't you scout them? Redeploy 12", move 6, Shoot 12". Next turn, nuke something else. First turn alpha strike is important.

I play on terrain heavy boards that limit the actual movement of the tank itself making the first turn alpha strike tough. I also seem to be rolling corner or football field deployment so it can save me time popping out on the other side.

My group also loves thunderfire cannons, devastators/havoks/sternguard in heavy cover. The ability to outflank and hit their lines from behind or the side skipping having to drive through tight choke points and limited firing visibility makes outflanking with ignore cover melts so much better. It also catches my opponents by surprise a lot and has gotten me linebreaker in more games then I can count.

Sometimes my opponent commits too much of his forces up board so now my domms are free to wreck face in his backfield something fierce.

For first turn alpha strike I use exo fire. While unreliable the ability to hide them behind los blocking terrain to protect them first turn then moving the 6" to shoot has served me well.

If I go first in Hammer and Anvil, I'll usually reserve one of the three, but still keep 2 for alpha. Even with terrain, you can redeploy.

I have to agree with Pretre, not only start with everything on the table for the alpha strike, but also for target saturation. I have also had bad luck with reinforcements where 1 dominion squad came on the table at a time and was focus fired down. Also, if you roll bad on outflank on the wrong deployment then they might have to drive for a turn or two to even get to a target.

I love seraphims, and they are my favorite model, but they can't really compare to dominions in a repressor. So if you want to minmax then that is the way to go. Pretre will also tell you to not to deepstrike with them, and after doing just that some games, listen to him. I lost the unit in one game to the warp after failing to get on the table for 2 rounds. Then in another game they deepstriked down, and they have to be spaced with 0" apart, so the unit got annihilated by one howitzer. Which instakills Celestine as well. It sucks so much that she doesn't have eternal warrior after they nerfed her ressurection ability.

I put two squads of Doms in Repressors up front everygame. Next to a land raider with liber for its own scout with dca. Move everything 12 before the game starts, use the land raider on one side of the column to shield the weaker side armour of the Repressors for heavier fire. If you go first, 2 dead vehicles or important squads from the comfort of their ride with a land raider waiting to stike next turn. If you go second, give them a choice, what part of that formation do you want to survive to the next turn. Anyone whose seen my battle reports know that it's my favorite tactic

One thing I've been wanting to do is to get a a squad of IG vets in Chimeras with an inquisitor to scout them forward. Bring a the command squad up normally in a chimera behind them to order them to ignore cover (obviously the first squad has to disembark) then wedge that unit between two units of doms.

Now there's 8 melta and 6 plasma shots that ignore cover scouting forward. Melta to pop something, cover ignoring plasma to clean up the squad that came out and is hiding in the wreckage, or just 14 armor and cover ignoring shots.

Although last game was a 2v2 at 1500 points each and my second doms squad had nothing to murder turn 1. I ended up shooting them at some bikers turn 2. They spent the next 4 rounds in an assault vs. the 1 surviving biker with no one being able to inflict casualties.

Mavnas wrote:
One thing I've been wanting to do is to get a a squad of IG vets in Chimeras with an inquisitor to scout them forward. Bring a the command squad up normally in a chimera behind them to order them to ignore cover (obviously the first squad has to disembark) then wedge that unit between two units of doms.

Now there's 8 melta and 6 plasma shots that ignore cover scouting forward. Melta to pop something, cover ignoring plasma to clean up the squad that came out and is hiding in the wreckage, or just 14 armor and cover ignoring shots.

Although last game was a 2v2 at 1500 points each and my second doms squad had nothing to murder turn 1. I ended up shooting them at some bikers turn 2. They spent the next 4 rounds in an assault vs. the 1 surviving biker with no one being able to inflict casualties.

That's actually a great idea with the Inquisitor. 49 points gets you the base Inquisitor, the Liber Hersius, and 3 servo skulls. Adds a ton of versatility to the army and if you're not running IG allies, you can add him to any Sisters squad for the same scout benefit.

So Killadelphia is in the books. Frgsinwntr and I ended up playing round 4. Great game there between two very different Sisters lists. I ended up finishing 5-1 and 10th overall (5th highest in pure BP, paint scores dropped me back significantly). If people are interested, I'll post up some summaries. I ended up playing against 5 flyrant nids, traditional IG, DE beast star with Talos support, centurion star, and drop pod IG in addition to Sisters.

I would love to see both some summaries and pics of your army

Yes

Played four games with the Sisters at the weekend. Both Exorcists did nothing in offensive but took all the attention at first. Seraphims did most of the leg work. Especially when I used their re-roll to pass five of six invulnerable saves.

AV13 front on the Repressor makes a big difference.

Not sure about doubling out on the melta i.e. melta doms w/ immmolator and multi-melta. The extra heavy flamer template feels like it could work better especially with all the jink.

Or maybe my next points/purchase is on a heavy flamer Dominion squad.

Also want that plane. Bless my wallet.

And an urge to run a unit of three Penitent Engines continues. Would happily run them if they a) weren't metal and b) didn't cost a fortune for a unit.

Dominions can't take heavy flamers. You mean retributors?


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I ran them in a drop pod and they are awesome.

Also, dominions in Repressors are gravy. Being able to shoot without getting out is hot.

 pretre wrote:
Dominions can't take heavy flamers. You mean retributors?


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I ran them in a drop pod and they are awesome.

Also, dominions in Repressors are gravy. Being able to shoot without getting out is hot.

Meant flamers and heavy flamer on the Immolator. So one melta and one flamer unit.

Dominions in a Repressor is quite a sexy idea... templatesaggeddon.

Oh, gotcha.

Yeah, I run 3x 5 Doms with 4 Melta in 3 Repressors.

It is nasty as hell.

I never run flamer doms anymore since we lost TL.

 pretre wrote:
Oh, gotcha.

Yeah, I run 3x 5 Doms with 4 Melta in 3 Repressors.

It is nasty as hell.

I never run flamer doms anymore since we lost TL.

You struggled with jink? My friend played Dark Angels all with bikes and skimmers. Jinks everywhere.

ShaneTB wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Oh, gotcha.

Yeah, I run 3x 5 Doms with 4 Melta in 3 Repressors.

It is nasty as hell.

I never run flamer doms anymore since we lost TL.

You struggled with jink? My friend played Dark Angels all with bikes and skimmers. Jinks everywhere.

What does that have to do with it? And Doms love jinkers. Declare Doms at bike/skimmer. If they jink, you can choose to ignore cover, if they don't you don't. I love order of operations.


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My no flamers on doms thing is because the current AOF doesn't help out flamers. The old one gave TL which let you reroll wounds. Made flamer doms very nasty.

 pretre wrote:

ShaneTB wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Oh, gotcha.

Yeah, I run 3x 5 Doms with 4 Melta in 3 Repressors.

It is nasty as hell.

I never run flamer doms anymore since we lost TL.

You struggled with jink? My friend played Dark Angels all with bikes and skimmers. Jinks everywhere.

What does that have to do with it? And Doms love jinkers. Declare Doms at bike/skimmer. If they jink, you can choose to ignore cover, if they don't you don't. I love order of operations.


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My no flamers on doms thing is because the current AOF doesn't help out flamers. The old one gave TL which let you reroll wounds. Made flamer doms very nasty.

You're right. I forgot about that as I pulled that special off and then fluffed all the shots. But an alpha strike with AV13 is a neat idea. Will consider it.

Yeah, SOB do AV13 spam really well and keeping the Doms alive for a second turn is pretty nice as well.

I've been getting fantastic results with melta doms in repressors too. Makes for a nasty unit and the heavy flamer on the repressor is just gravy.

 Zefig wrote:
I've been getting fantastic results with melta doms in repressors too. Makes for a nasty unit and the heavy flamer on the repressor is just gravy.

And snap firing the storm bolter.

 pretre wrote:

 Zefig wrote:
I've been getting fantastic results with melta doms in repressors too. Makes for a nasty unit and the heavy flamer on the repressor is just gravy.

And snap firing the storm bolter.

If I ever get a kill from a snap-firing storm bolter, that repressor is getting a promotion.

Shame the Repressor kit has been out of stock for ages...

ShaneTB wrote:
Shame the Repressor kit has been out of stock for ages...

I feel like I repost this every couple pages or so, but here we go:

In my army, I have:
Rhinos - Normal rhino kit painted SOB
Immolators - Immolator kit painted SOB using Immo Turrets
Repressors - Immolator kit painted SOB using Immo Kit Cupola with SB/HF on it, Leman Russ Dozer Blade and Penitent Engine Driver magnetized to front

Basically, my immos and Repressors are the same vehicles magnetized for swapping.

You can see an Immo and 3 Repressors in this pic:




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Here's a close-up from before I swapped the dozers to be more sizeable.

 pretre wrote:

ShaneTB wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Oh, gotcha.

Yeah, I run 3x 5 Doms with 4 Melta in 3 Repressors.

It is nasty as hell.

I never run flamer doms anymore since we lost TL.

You struggled with jink? My friend played Dark Angels all with bikes and skimmers. Jinks everywhere.

What does that have to do with it? And Doms love jinkers. Declare Doms at bike/skimmer. If they jink, you can choose to ignore cover, if they don't you don't. I love order of operations.


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My no flamers on doms thing is because the current AOF doesn't help out flamers. The old one gave TL which let you reroll wounds. Made flamer doms very nasty.

Aren't acts of faith at the beginning of the phase?

It's before it shoots, not the beginning of the phase. In order to shoot, you first half to pick a target (after nominating a unit).