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My fix for high rate of fire was to stick 2+ characters in the front. Tau and eldar made that a lot harder though.part of why I haven't used it in a while.

 BBAP wrote:

 MacPhail wrote:
From these preliminary lists it seems like there's a point of diminishing returns at the second CAD, much like the last codex

How do you mean "diminishing returns"?

I just feel like anytime I hit that second CAD I pony up the points into an HQ and two Troops, then whoops, my points are gone and I don't have much to show for it other than some backfield ObSec.

So it sounds like double CAD with Jake and the new Canoness with nothing much else changed. Melta Doms, Exorcists, HB Rets, an anchor blob, and some ObSec Rhino Sisters trying to stay alive to score a few points. Is that about where we find ourselves?

 MacPhail wrote:
I just feel like anytime I hit that second CAD I pony up the points into an HQ and two Troops, then whoops, my points are gone and I don't have much to show for it other than some backfield ObSec.

I'm with you now.

So it sounds like double CAD with Jake and the new Canoness with nothing much else changed. Melta Doms, Exorcists, HB Rets, an anchor blob, and some ObSec Rhino Sisters trying to stay alive to score a few points. Is that about where we find ourselves?

More or less, although I reckon there might be some mileage in this Wolf Blob thing too.


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 pretre wrote:
My fix for high rate of fire was to stick 2+ characters in the front. Tau and eldar made that a lot harder though.part of why I haven't used it in a while.

None of it is AP<3 though, is it? Scats are AP6, the Riptides are AP4 (Rending if he goes Super Saiyan), etc etc. A Sisters blob could probably tank that long enough to chase his stuff into a corner, and then BAM! You give 'em the old Drop Pod/ Outflanking Immolator in the eye.

Of course that all goes out the window if it gets hit with a few D weapons. Or someone runs 5 Acolytes and a First Curse into it. Hrm.

The wolf blob thing is less good than it used to be.

Nowadays, you just ally in two priests with litanies and a couple BSS into a wolf list to get the buffs on the actually good wolf squads. Wulfen or twc with reroll everything are hilarious.


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I'll post some of my old blob lists tomorrow if I remember.

I've seen that done too, but with those units you have to drag arse with the TWC/ Wulfen/ Bikes/ whatever to keep the Priests in cohesion, which seems like it has the potential to be a pain - stops your unit hitting as hard as it can, makes it easy to Challenge the Priests to death if you stretch it too far, stuff like that. They're moving a bit faster, but also not. Plus you have less ablative wounds, and I can't imagine TWC stand up to Super Saiyan Riptide anime fan Cannons much better than Sisters do.

 BBAP wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
Here is why I take her with Wargear: http://40kunorthodoxy.blogspot.com/2016/08/unlocking-sisters-repentia.html

Let's not rehash that, eh?

You asked, I answered. Sorry that you don't agree.


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 Jancoran wrote:

 BBAP wrote:

Drider wrote:
40 points if your taking a naked canoness, which you wouldn't be unless you were just paying HQ tax for a second CAD even then you'd at least be giving her a Rosarius.

Why would you ever put wargear on a Canoness?

Because the mantle of Ophelia and a Rosarius make her awesome.

You misspelled 'suck less'.

Newp. She does a marvelous job of doing her job which is primarily: not dying. She is the protector of the Faith, and in my case, pretty literally.

What a sad state of affairs. With MoO and Rosarius her only job is not to die and give away slay the warlord. While yes it does give her more staying power, the sad truth is that if someone really wants her dead she's going to die, but the same can be said for every model in the game.

Drider wrote:
What a sad state of affairs. With MoO and Rosarius her only job is not to die and give away slay the warlord. While yes it does give her more staying power, the sad truth is that if someone really wants her dead she's going to die, but the same can be said for every model in the game.

You don't even need to want her dead - all she's doing is sitting out front and taking wounds for a Repentia squad. As soon as someone figures out they can shoot from an angle that makes a Repentia the closest model the Canoness becomes useless. That is, assuming you don't just block them off with transports, or have brought an army with enough firepower to deal with a unit of slow-moving Repentia **and** the Dominions/ BSS/ whatever. It's not a great ploy, all told.

Drider wrote:
What a sad state of affairs. With MoO and Rosarius her only job is not to die and give away slay the warlord. While yes it does give her more staying power, the sad truth is that if someone really wants her dead she's going to die, but the same can be said for every model in the game.

Shes not my warlord. Who would do that when you have Uriah?


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Drider wrote:
What a sad state of affairs. With MoO and Rosarius her only job is not to die and give away slay the warlord. While yes it does give her more staying power, the sad truth is that if someone really wants her dead she's going to die, but the same can be said for every model in the game.

You don't even need to want her dead - all she's doing is sitting out front and taking wounds for a Repentia squad. As soon as someone figures out they can shoot from an angle that makes a Repentia the closest model the Canoness becomes useless. That is, assuming you don't just block them off with transports, or have brought an army with enough firepower to deal with a unit of slow-moving Repentia **and** the Dominions/ BSS/ whatever. It's not a great ploy, all told.

Well i DO in fact have 8 rhinos so blocking is no big deal. Prioritizing her over the 24 doninion i placed in your face is pretty unlikely. So only in theory does anyone ever prioritize her over them.

 Jancoran wrote:
Well i DO in fact have 8 rhinos so blocking is no big deal

Rhinos don't fly. You'll hit the parking lot or you'll go around it. Either way I win. I can see where your Repentia are and know what you're going to do with them - and it won't be charging them into anything I don't allow you to charge.

Prioritizing her

"Her"? Do you think people would be shooting this unit to kill the Canoness?

over the 24 doninion i placed in your face is pretty unlikely.

False dichotomy. If I'm running a Blood Angels deathstar this is perhaps an issue. If I'm running literally anything else it's probably not.

If I'm shooting this unit it's to kill the Repentia. If I'm not it's because I can deal with it some other way. It's so slow and cumbersome I can see it coming a mile off and pull its card. That's why this unit is not a good way to spend 300+pts in a Sisters army. It's gotten even less worthwhile since the last time we had this argument, because with C:IA you need a second (or third) Detachment to pull it off now. Repentia appeal to the fluff bunny/ BDSM pervert in me and I'd like to find a good way of fielding them - this just doesn't fit the bill.

Show me your willingness and ability to ignore the Dominion. Show me the unlimited units that allow the wondrous acrobatics you will use. The unit is like 363 points of kill. It can become multiple units to join others when the repentia are spent and then what have you killed? 113 points. Thats what! So if you think this grand accomplishment is worthy of the attention you CLAIM to be willing to divert to the task... show me.

Losing them is 113 points. You're welcome to do it if you think it wise. But I'll take this death star and its cost over that of most deathstars. While I am sure there are stronger ones, its incredibly difficult to beat the economy of this one.

And you have no better answer. If you are going to play Adepta Sororitas and comment on them, your first taak isn't to tell me other factions can handle it because nothing is immortal in 40k. And this thread is about how to make Adrpta Sororitas work.

This works.

Saying it doesn't, doesnt make it true. I have a wealth of experience actually doing it. All you have are doubts. I'll take experience over doubts, ten out of ten times.

We can agree on one thing? They can be killed and should always be gunned down when opportunity presents itself. If I were fighting them, and I had the opportunity to get the angle on them, I'd take it after the more present threat is handled. My job as the General is therefore to limit your opportunities.

I'm not certain why this is even being debated. Successful assault death stars require three things: speed, durability, and power. Repentia have one of those; if they hit something and actually get to swing, they'll probably kill it. That being said, they're so slow and flimsy that they should never make it to combat, even with a tank character up front. If for some odd reason I can't find a way to kill that unit, I'll speed bump it with rhinos and small squads so you never really get to kill what you're after, anyway. You'll get one unit a turn after you finally make it to combat on turn 3 or 4. It's just not that concerning. Any army with any semblance of mobility can safely ignore that unit for the entire game.

The tank Canoness idea is really cool, don't get me wrong. But even she is pretty easy to kill with only three wounds. Can you kill 3 marines before you're done shooting even a portion of your army? I certainly can. I know you said you've got 8 rhinos blocking... But I have 9 multimeltas, 27 meltaguns, and 3 exorcists. Cracking a hole and mowing that unit down is easy if I deem it necessary.

As far as I'm concerned, the only way to successfully run Repentia as an offensive "death star" is to steal someone else's assault vehicle to get that speed and durability. I could see running them as a defensive counter assault, though. The unit might actually be marginally useful in that respect as long as you don't outpace it too badly.

If you could take the Mantle of Ophelia and the Cloak of St. Aspira at the same time, it would be a completely different story XD

jancoran doesn't accept that just because you can use something and do things with it, it doesn't make it good.

Yes, Repentia can be taken and can work in some situations. They are not, however, good.

Let me see if I've got this right:
- Both codices are viable
- Both codices include units with faction: Adepta Sororitas
- The 2013 codex has Celestine
- The Codex: Imperial Agents has detachments + new Canoness

So, if I have the points, I can run a 2013 CAD with Celestine, some ObSec Rhino BSS squads, and 3 Exorcists, a C:IA Vestal Task force with Verydian, Melta Doms who reroll 1s for a turn, HB Rets with Precision Shots, HF Command (not a terrible tax), and a C:IA Ministorum Delegation with Jacobus and a blob of fairly choppy things with his boosted invulnerable.

Is that right? And if so, is it any good at 2k?

 Jancoran wrote:
Show me [snip]

Go to Blood of Kittens' "List Compendium" page. Take a look through any of the Tau, Eldar or Taudar armies there. What do you see? Me, I see three things:

- More than 12" movement per turn
- Lots and lots of S6+ shooting
- 1 or 2 units that don't care about S6 Eviscerators

None of these armies have a "backfield" for you to drop Dominions into, so your Rhino rush army (because that's what it is) has no way to apply any pressure to them. If you deploy first he'll just refuse you a flank and lead you around by the nose, and if you go second he's got the speed to do much the same thing. Then you just keep driving forward while they pop tanks out from under you and kill the Sisters that fall out, while the Repentia will spend the game rolling around in the Rhino, and the moment they get out they'll either be avoided or shot dead.

Genestealer Cults present the same issue - no backfield static elements for you to press so your "lol dominions" gambit falls flat, and while he can't really stop your Repentia hitting him, given how GSC works, your Repentia aren't able to kill enough units at once for them to be worth worrying about, let alone an actual threat. They'll walk through 5-model units, sure, but that's 40pts of expendable right there. Once you're fighting 10 Acolytes your Repentia are no longer protected by the Canoness and are starting to lose models, and if you try to charge 20 Acolytes (160pts of dudes, 4 full-strength units, but usually more like 6 or 7 units given how much damage they take) your Repentia are probably going to die unless they pop their FNP. That's not even taking into account any Hatred, Fearless or Brood Cycle buff bubbles the units may have. Also, if the GSC player feels the need to deal with them, he can drop 20 Neophytes in front of them. Maybe they shoot the Repentia, maybe they sit there waiting for you to charge them or go around, either way he's stymied you with a unit he hasn't even paid for. That's not a win for you.

There's no "ignoring" going on, nor any "underestimating". Your army works against inexperienced players or gakky Battleforce Land Raider armies with static elements, but most Sisters builds can give those armies a bad day. Min-maxed Immo Sisters will do it from 30" away, so if the static elements can actually shoot that build has the edge over your Rhino rush. Your units aren't as capable as you think they are, and the Repentia noobhammer isn't a good way to spend 363pts from the Codex. I'll ignore the "experience over doubt" thing because you got very emotional last time. It was unseemly.


EDIT: Also your costs are wrong. It's 403pts base, 378 if you're allowing for the mandatory Priest HQ selection. Congrats killing those Acolytes with that though.

 MacPhail wrote:
Let me see if I've got this right:
- Both codices are viable
- Both codices include units with faction: Adepta Sororitas
- The 2013 codex has Celestine
- The Codex: Imperial Agents has detachments + new Canoness

So, if I have the points, I can run a 2013 CAD with Celestine, some ObSec Rhino BSS squads, and 3 Exorcists, a C:IA Vestal Task force with Verydian, Melta Doms who reroll 1s for a turn, HB Rets with Precision Shots, HF Command (not a terrible tax), and a C:IA Ministorum Delegation with Jacobus and a blob of fairly choppy things with his boosted invulnerable.

Is that right? And if so, is it any good at 2k?

The first two statements are unknown if they are correct or not. We are waiting for an official FAQ or answer.

I think the way I'm going to use this is the new force org chart will be the backline units that I want to be "tough".

The ones "attacking" will go into the CAD where they can contest objectives.

The new Cannoness special character would fit well in that new force org chart with Uriah to provide quite the set of bonuses for retributers and objective sitting battle sisters.

 BBAP wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:
Show me [snip]

Go to Blood of Kittens' "List Compendium" page. Take a look through any of the Tau, Eldar or Taudar armies there. What do you see? Me, I see three things:

- More than 12" movement per turn
- Lots and lots of S6+ shooting
- 1 or 2 units that don't care about S6 Eviscerators

None of these armies have a "backfield" for you to drop Dominions into, so your Rhino rush army (because that's what it is) has no way to apply any pressure to them. If you deploy first he'll just refuse you a flank and lead you around by the nose, and if you go second he's got the speed to do much the same thing. Then you just keep driving forward while they pop tanks out from under you and kill the Sisters that fall out, while the Repentia will spend the game rolling around in the Rhino, and the moment they get out they'll either be avoided or shot dead.

Genestealer Cults present the same issue - no backfield static elements for you to press so your "lol dominions" gambit falls flat, and while he can't really stop your Repentia hitting him, given how GSC works, your Repentia aren't able to kill enough units at once for them to be worth worrying about, let alone an actual threat. They'll walk through 5-model units, sure, but that's 40pts of expendable right there. Once you're fighting 10 Acolytes your Repentia are no longer protected by the Canoness and are starting to lose models, and if you try to charge 20 Acolytes (160pts of dudes, 4 full-strength units, but usually more like 6 or 7 units given how much damage they take) your Repentia are probably going to die unless they pop their FNP. That's not even taking into account any Hatred, Fearless or Brood Cycle buff bubbles the units may have. Also, if the GSC player feels the need to deal with them, he can drop 20 Neophytes in front of them. Maybe they shoot the Repentia, maybe they sit there waiting for you to charge them or go around, either way he's stymied you with a unit he hasn't even paid for. That's not a win for you.

There's no "ignoring" going on, nor any "underestimating". Your army works against inexperienced players or gakky Battleforce Land Raider armies with static elements, but most Sisters builds can give those armies a bad day. Min-maxed Immo Sisters will do it from 30" away, so if the static elements can actually shoot that build has the edge over your Rhino rush. Your units aren't as capable as you think they are, and the Repentia noobhammer isn't a good way to spend 363pts from the Codex. I'll ignore the "experience over doubt" thing because you got very emotional last time. It was unseemly.

I found this post ironically timed. I played Eldar last night and won a tournament with them. i used the kind of list you describe. You want to use a list that walks through armies as a REASON why this specific 113 point unit isn't useful? Lol. You think it MATTERS that its Sisters Repentia when comparing it to that?

This is the problem online. This is the SAME problem I hate when people say Grotesquese are "bad" because...uh...Vindicators! or Death Strikes! or anything else STR 10 AP anything or better that can kill them. Its absurd to discuss with you if that's what you're going to do. White Scars battle companies don't want to see that Eldar army I played, a War Convocations doesn't either. And you're saying that the Eldar army is a reason why Sisters Repentia aren't good? Give me a break. By that measure, almost nothing is 'good".

Ugh. when 28 people show up to your tournament, they are ALL playing Eldar and Taudar? How remarkable.

 Jancoran wrote:
I found this post ironically timed. I played Eldar last night and won a tournament with them. i used the kind of list you describe. You want to use a list that walks through armies as a REASON why this specific 113 point unit isn't useful? Lol. You think it MATTERS that its Sisters Repentia when comparing it to that?

First, the unit is 378pts assuming it's mounted. 153pts of Repentia plus Rhino might fight into an army. 378pts of Repentia and attendant gak is what you're trying to convince us is worth taking. If the unit isn't mounted it's cheaper, but has even less chance of doing anything useful.

Second, we've gone from "MoO and Rosarius makes Canoness awesome" to "Repentia unit is awesome" to "Repentia unit works in my Rhino rush" to "Repentia unit can't be judged against Eldar because Eldar are too good". The fact we can't judge it on its effectiveness against a competitive army build implies it is a noobhammer. It is functional against sub-par armies and/or inexperienced players. This is what I've been saying the whole time. It's a noobhammer. An expensive one. One that actively detracts from your ability to build a well-rounded Sisters of Battle army by taking up points and slots that would be better spent on other things. Yet here you are, still recommending it to people.

For the record, Eldar don't walk through either of the other armies I mentioned earlier (that you've chosen to ignore), namely Tau and Genestealer Cults. They can win, or they can lose, but it's never an easy game.

Its absurd to discuss with you if that's what you're going to do.

Yeah - I can imagine it's frustrating being asked to evince your statements when your statements are pure garbage. If you don't want to discuss with me, that's fine - stop lying to people about the usefulness of your gakky Repentia noobhammer and I'll stop calling you out on it. Then we need never deal with one another ever again.

Let's try to be civil. Repentia suck, but I'm not sure it's worth getting worked up over.

Here is where I really wish that Sisters hadn't gotten a 'full update' in Imperial Agents... so much of what makes a modern codex is missing... composite detachments (like the Necron Decurion), multiple unit detachments, squadrons for mobile artillery units like the exorcist.
Here's hoping that the Canoness V has made a big enough splash that we will see Sisters play a big role in the 13th Crusade Story Line... with support (Lords of War and composite detachments included). With printing lead times dropping, we could see it this time next year.

Tactics side:
What do we get with the Soroitas Command Squad moving to Elites? Are Condemnor Boltgun squads going to be a thing with the FAQ?

 Anpu-adom wrote:
Tactics side:
What do we get with the Soroitas Command Squad moving to Elites? Are Condemnor Boltgun squads going to be a thing with the FAQ?

You mean the Perils-on-hit thing? I'm not sure - seems neat, though. Is it "any squad with a psyker in it" or is it just psykers that are affected?

I'd like to see the Command Squad find a place, though. The Hospitaller is a bad-ass looking model and I'd like to be able to use her more.

 Anpu-adom wrote:

Tactics side:
What do we get with the Soroitas Command Squad moving to Elites? Are Condemnor Boltgun squads going to be a thing with the FAQ?

I was thinking they would take the place of my HF Rets. Losing rending would suck, but their fleet and move through cover might help them line up shots with their heavy flamers, and they're pretty cheap.

Sadly their AoF triggers in the assault phase so it's mostly useless.

 MacPhail wrote:
I was thinking they would take the place of my HF Rets. Losing rending would suck, but their fleet and move through cover might help them line up shots with their heavy flamers, and they're pretty cheap.

I kinda like that. Rets with FNP might give Veridyan somewhere to hide. The movement thing won't work though - they only get those rules in your Assault phase, so they can't use them unless charging.

 BBAP wrote:

 Anpu-adom wrote:
Tactics side:
What do we get with the Soroitas Command Squad moving to Elites? Are Condemnor Boltgun squads going to be a thing with the FAQ?

You mean the Perils-on-hit thing? I'm not sure - seems neat, though. Is it "any squad with a psyker in it" or is it just psykers that are affected?

I'd like to see the Command Squad find a place, though. The Hospitaller is a bad-ass looking model and I'd like to be able to use her more.

if its like the faq, then any unit hit that contains a psyker. If a squad of 5 condemnors opens up on a unit with single psyker in it... and all hit. that psyker takes 5 perils checks.... should be enough to kill most psykers. great for sniping grimour heralds out of screamer stars... or first turn killing a poorly deployed psyker unit.

Its not enough to kill off things like seer councils... but it will put a dent in it for sure.

 Jancoran wrote:
No one says "Grotesquese are "bad" because"

No one ever said this, its actually considered really good and is a stable unit for many DE armies.

I have MANY Repentia and honestly I would never use them. With the meta the way it is, there is no way I can afford to have them on the table. If... however I had an Assault vehicle that be different.

If you found a way to use them then I guess more power to you!.

 Jancoran wrote:

Drider wrote:
What a sad state of affairs. With MoO and Rosarius her only job is not to die and give away slay the warlord. While yes it does give her more staying power, the sad truth is that if someone really wants her dead she's going to die, but the same can be said for every model in the game.

Shes not my warlord. Who would do that when you have Uriah?


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Drider wrote:
What a sad state of affairs. With MoO and Rosarius her only job is not to die and give away slay the warlord. While yes it does give her more staying power, the sad truth is that if someone really wants her dead she's going to die, but the same can be said for every model in the game.

You don't even need to want her dead - all she's doing is sitting out front and taking wounds for a Repentia squad. As soon as someone figures out they can shoot from an angle that makes a Repentia the closest model the Canoness becomes useless. That is, assuming you don't just block them off with transports, or have brought an army with enough firepower to deal with a unit of slow-moving Repentia **and** the Dominions/ BSS/ whatever. It's not a great ploy, all told.

Well i DO in fact have 8 rhinos so blocking is no big deal. Prioritizing her over the 24 doninion i placed in your face is pretty unlikely. So only in theory does anyone ever prioritize her over them.

I am not sure why people are arguing against this. The pros and cons of msu are well known. This army will excel against death stars and suffer against raw gunlines like IG platoons, Necron warrior lists, Drop pod msu, tau fire warrier spam, and beast stars.

There is no perfect list, this one seems fairly strong.

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 Jancoran wrote:

Drider wrote:
What a sad state of affairs. With MoO and Rosarius her only job is not to die and give away slay the warlord. While yes it does give her more staying power, the sad truth is that if someone really wants her dead she's going to die, but the same can be said for every model in the game.

Shes not my warlord. Who would do that when you have Uriah?


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Drider wrote:
What a sad state of affairs. With MoO and Rosarius her only job is not to die and give away slay the warlord. While yes it does give her more staying power, the sad truth is that if someone really wants her dead she's going to die, but the same can be said for every model in the game.

You don't even need to want her dead - all she's doing is sitting out front and taking wounds for a Repentia squad. As soon as someone figures out they can shoot from an angle that makes a Repentia the closest model the Canoness becomes useless. That is, assuming you don't just block them off with transports, or have brought an army with enough firepower to deal with a unit of slow-moving Repentia **and** the Dominions/ BSS/ whatever. It's not a great ploy, all told.

Well i DO in fact have 8 rhinos so blocking is no big deal. Prioritizing her over the 24 doninion i placed in your face is pretty unlikely. So only in theory does anyone ever prioritize her over them.

I am not sure why people are arguing against this. The pros and cons of msu are well known. This army will excel against death stars and suffer against raw gunlines like IG platoons, Necron warrior lists, Drop pod msu, tau fire warrier spam, and beast stars.

There is no perfect list, this one seems fairly strong.

i think the problem is, while its not a bad list, Marines do MSU better... so you'd be better off playing marines

We can't really make a death star....

What we basically have is a speed bumb combat unit (20 sisters or 20+ crusaders with a litanies priest) and exorcist spam (5-6 of them).

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 sfshilo wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

Drider wrote:
What a sad state of affairs. With MoO and Rosarius her only job is not to die and give away slay the warlord. While yes it does give her more staying power, the sad truth is that if someone really wants her dead she's going to die, but the same can be said for every model in the game.

Shes not my warlord. Who would do that when you have Uriah?


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Drider wrote:
What a sad state of affairs. With MoO and Rosarius her only job is not to die and give away slay the warlord. While yes it does give her more staying power, the sad truth is that if someone really wants her dead she's going to die, but the same can be said for every model in the game.

You don't even need to want her dead - all she's doing is sitting out front and taking wounds for a Repentia squad. As soon as someone figures out they can shoot from an angle that makes a Repentia the closest model the Canoness becomes useless. That is, assuming you don't just block them off with transports, or have brought an army with enough firepower to deal with a unit of slow-moving Repentia **and** the Dominions/ BSS/ whatever. It's not a great ploy, all told.

Well i DO in fact have 8 rhinos so blocking is no big deal. Prioritizing her over the 24 doninion i placed in your face is pretty unlikely. So only in theory does anyone ever prioritize her over them.

I am not sure why people are arguing against this. The pros and cons of msu are well known. This army will excel against death stars and suffer against raw gunlines like IG platoons, Necron warrior lists, Drop pod msu, tau fire warrier spam, and beast stars.

There is no perfect list, this one seems fairly strong.

i think the problem is, while its not a bad list, Marines do MSU better... so you'd be better off playing marines

We can't really make a death star....

What we basically have is a speed bumb combat unit (20 sisters or 20+ crusaders with a litanies priest) and exorcist spam (5-6 of them).

Then go play marines. This is a sisters thread. Marines do not have army wide 6++, adamantium will, or access to melta. (Literally every slot/unit is full of armorbane options.)