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I like Dukat with Engage on a ship that has a 4 bank and a 180 degree arc- you can engage AND battlestations every turn. It's in the running for the second ship in my Engage Build. The greens aren't that great, but you wouldn't need to green every turn.


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Let me break some news for you guys:

http://wizkidsgames.com/blog/2013/11/14/star-trek-attack-wing-organized-play-admirals-orders/

Gordash wrote:
I like Dukat with Engage on a ship that has a 4 bank and a 180 degree arc- you can engage AND battlestations every turn. It's in the running for the second ship in my Engage Build. The greens aren't that great, but you wouldn't need to green every turn.


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Let me break some news for you guys:

http://wizkidsgames.com/blog/2013/11/14/star-trek-attack-wing-organized-play-admirals-orders/

Mmm, me likey the United Fleet Orders... Makes running pure lists better. Klingons have more points for upgrades now!!! For the Empire!!!

So, keeping faction specific allows 10 more points in lists?

 davou wrote:
So, keeping faction specific allows 10 more points in lists?

Yes, only with that Admiral Order card and only usable on upgrades (can't spend the points on a cheaper ship, etc.)

Still very broken... Thats free cloaked mines on my whole fleet

 davou wrote:
Still very broken... Thats free cloaked mines on my whole fleet

Only if you play Romulans... lol.

I plan on testing these soon, lol.

They need testing before I'd say that they are broken. I'd think 10 points is a bit much, though. The Strike Force doesn't seem that great- I'd probably rather still run Command Tokens with the left over 5 pts.

In Klingon Fleets, I don't see how adding 10 pts is really going to make the ships THAT much better. Adding in Cloaked Mines becomes a waste of points after a certain number- I haven't figured out that number yet but I think it's probably 3.

It might be a really good upgrade to the Dominion, though.

So what do you guys think of the Admiral's Orders listed on the wizkids site.

"http://wizkidsgames.com/blog/2013/11/14/star-trek-attack-wing-organized-play-admirals-orders/"

Starting in January wizkids is going to release admirals order cards on the site for the OP event, the are not mandatory and up to the TO of the OP. Each month they will change and can be used with resources.

January's are up on the site

STRIKE FORCE:
5pts
must be a 2 ship build
1)once during each activation phase, one of your ships may make a free action listed on its bar.

2)during combat one noncloaked ship may roll an extra attack or defense die.

UNITED FORCE:
0pts
must run pure ships, not pure fleet.
1) you get 10 extra points for shipe pure upgrades

2) each round you get one free reroll ( even if it has already been rerolled)

3) cannot use side board to mix factions



In all I like them, really rewards you for playing to theme.

And I don't think the 10 pts are bonkos. I'll probably play a pure federation build, but I haven't looked at the OP4 scenario yet, so I don't know if it's going to be skewed towards one faction yet.

The Strike Force would go a long way in my two ship Engage Build. The Valdore with Toreth would be able to Cloak and Engage- or sensor echo out of arcs. HOLY.

The Enterprise would get 4-5 attacks with the 360 arc. That combined with Scan and Spock is going to be nuts as well. I just don't know if I can give up the United Force points.

Gordash wrote:
In Klingon Fleets, I don't see how adding 10 pts is really going to make the ships THAT much better.

Well with Klingons thats a free advances weapon system or the EM upgrade that prevents attack and disables shields, or just for laughs, Boarding Party on the Negh'Var

Advanced Weapons System would be great to finally throw into a Klingon Build. With the new expansion, you could fit in Alexander, drex and new drex as well!


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That being said, you wouldn't be able to fit in 4 Vorchas, which is a good thing. I like that you have to take upgrades and not use the points for ships. That tells me that they think a 4 Vorcha list would be too much.

Free 5 shot torpedoes on klingon birds of prey isn't shabby either. But I do like the idea od doubel drex and double advance weapons.

Lol... look at this list- That's 18 shots, with rerolls on two of the ships and advanced weapon systems. It could probably get better though.

Neg'Var 28
Gowron 4
Advanced Weapon System 5

Neg'Var 28
New Worf 3

Neg'Var 28
Martok 5
Advanced Weapon System 5
Drex 4


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If you bump those down to Vorchas, you get room for one more drex!

Hey Guys --
We are going to start the Dominion War at our FLGS soon. I want to play Dominion...any build ideas?
I own the Breen ship and am pickingup the Jem' Hadar ship this weekend. What should be my next purchase?

Gordash wrote:
Lol... look at this list- That's 18 shots, with rerolls on two of the ships and advanced weapon systems. It could probably get better though.

Neg'Var 28
Gowron 4
Advanced Weapon System 5

Neg'Var 28
New Worf 3

Neg'Var 28
Martok 5
Advanced Weapon System 5
Drex 4


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If you bump those down to Vorchas, you get room for one more drex!

That is basically the build I was planning once the Koraga comes out, minus the AWS, but if my stores allow the admiral cards that is it.

The Dominion's a tough build right now, but if you can wait a month, you'll have the Koranak and everything will be dandy.

United force will give my fleet one hell of a boost. I went for the extra ship rather than upgrades, seeing it as free extra attacks and hull points compared to most fleet builds.
I now have 10 points to spend on some fun toys.

Hmmmm what to add?

 FarseerAndyMan wrote:
Hey Guys --
We are going to start the Dominion War at our FLGS soon. I want to play Dominion...any build ideas?
I own the Breen ship and am pickingup the Jem' Hadar ship this weekend. What should be my next purchase?

Wait a month for the dominion, then bust them out. 2 Keldon class and a breen ship will do nicely after December.

whats coming out that i need to wait for ?

Koranok/keldon class comes out next month check out wizkids site for the preview, with pics.

 whitehorn wrote:
United force will give my fleet one hell of a boost. I went for the extra ship rather than upgrades, seeing it as free extra attacks and hull points compared to most fleet builds.
I now have 10 points to spend on some fun toys.

Hmmmm what to add?

But the order card says you can only use those points on upgrades. did you just use your deficit for upgrades in your normal list for another ship then use the 10 points for upgrades?

United Force will help out the Romulans as all of there stuff tend to be pricy for what it really is, and they are low on good captains. It's going to ne a long wait until February, when the Gal Gath'Thong comes out. Then look out, plasma torpedoes away!

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:

 whitehorn wrote:
United force will give my fleet one hell of a boost. I went for the extra ship rather than upgrades, seeing it as free extra attacks and hull points compared to most fleet builds.
I now have 10 points to spend on some fun toys.

Hmmmm what to add?

But the order card says you can only use those points on upgrades. did you just use your deficit for upgrades in your normal list for another ship then use the 10 points for upgrades?

The way I read the card is that you can have up to 100 points of ships then 10 of upgrades. Who can say that your 100 point exactly ship build with no paid for capts or upgrades isn't the fleet you normally use?
It might not be in the spirit of the card but it does seem to be allowed.

My fleet is 88 points of ship and 12 points of upgrade as it stands. Can use the extra 10 points on swapping ships around.

My reading concurs with 100pts of ships and 10pts of upgrades.

Of course before united force, you could still only have 100pts of ships, so you won't see 4 Vorcha/Neg'var lists. You can still only run the number of ships that you could previously, but you get some extra bonuses. You won't see completely broken builds- which would be 4 vorchas- but you'll see 4-5 small small ship builds get buffed.

Of course, in February they will switch it up, and those lists will have to be tweaked yet again.

The metagame for Attack Wing is a bit too fast, although from what I'm seeing, the OP environment is supposed to be more FUN than HARDCORE- which I appreciate.

Gordash wrote:
although from what I'm seeing, the OP environment is supposed to be more FUN than HARDCORE- which I appreciate.

Thats what i liked about the second op event, the orbital defence platforms changed everyone's playing style. All of a sudden those mega hard upgraded to the teeth 2 (maybe 3) ship fleets didn't look so scary when they were hiding over one side of the field. They just couldn't afford to take that turn of two of being shot at by the platforms which would have put them in the right position to get the winning strike in.
Doubt we will see another game that messes with your style of play that badly again but it was a laugh to play.


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Also have you guys noticed that the attack wing posts are now dominating the x-wing ones?

We seem to be building the bigger discussion base now

There's just more stuff happening in Attack Wing, as each month the whole game shifts. We're attracting new people too! In the last few weeks new people have been showing up to discuss issues. Also, I'm finding that Dakka is less "The Sky is Falling" than BGG.

Anyone know when we'll get the preview for the next wave this week?

Likely Wednesday.

Hey have any of you guys noticed that the OP3 prize warbird (d'deridex) is different than the one that comes in the started set?

The stats are the same but thr upgrade slots are different. The starter set has 1 tech, 1 weapon, and 3 crew on the Khazara. The generic has only 2 crew. Now the Aj'Rmr OP3 prize has 1 tech, 2 weapons, and 2 crew. The generic that comes in the prize pack has 1 tech, 2 weapons, and 1 crew. So there are 2 different generic warbirds out there.

The Khazara has the better ability, but if I was looking at a 2nd warbird or a ship for a 50pt build I would consider one of the OP warbirds. With
2 weapon slots it could take both photon & plasma torpedoes, which would make up for the low attack value on the warbird.

I'm not saying its game breaking or anything, but it is a nice bit of variety depending on the mission you play.

Well guys the romuland scout Vo has been leeked on BGG early. It is bad, really bad. Probably the first ship that is truly not worth buying. I will put it this way the praetus is better in terns of captain, stats, and extra cards. Enough said I think. Check it out on BGG. But all of the disappointment is not worth typing this late.