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Lovely!

My Chaos army is growing and so is my number of Rhinos, so these tactics are very appreciated.

Keep 'em coming!

@Tyberos

Thanks!

We have another idea for a new type of video that I think is going to be super awesome and informative. I just need to find the time to do it all, haha.

@BrotherHaraldus

Glad they help you out!

More goodies!

General Hobbs wrote:


I'm of the school that if your predator can shoot at me, I can shoot back at you. Sure, the Vindie gives you cover. I'll still want the shot.

You'll want the shot. But you won't get it because of obscuring/obstruction rules. I believe it's more than 25% of the vehicle must be showing? Barrels and such not counting (so the 25% > of the frame showing)? That is, of course, unless you are shooting from an elevated position. Then I'd give it up.

Of course, if it was really becoming an issue, we could always roll for it.

TheRedWingArmada wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:


I'm of the school that if your predator can shoot at me, I can shoot back at you. Sure, the Vindie gives you cover. I'll still want the shot.

You'll want the shot. But you won't get it because of obscuring/obstruction rules. I believe it's more than 25% of the vehicle must be showing? Barrels and such not counting (so the 25% > of the frame showing)? That is, of course, unless you are shooting from an elevated position. Then I'd give it up.

Of course, if it was really becoming an issue, we could always roll for itself .

This is not right. If any hull is showing you can target it. BTW the turret is hull not gun.

Another great tip.

Some other good applications of focus fire are making sure your bolt pistols don't cause your charge to fail by focus firing the further models, and to ignore Iridium Commanders standing in front of weaker XV8 suits.

Great video. I liked the model eye view as it makes it very obvious how it works.

BTW were the cultists 1" away from the IF? Because you are better than that Reece!

@Tyberos the Red Wake

Yes, and it is awesome for sniping out the Grimoire in a unit of Daemons, or something similar.

Glad you liked it!

@ansacs

Haha, might have done so on accident but obviously you can't do that =)

Yeah, the Model's eye view helped a lot, glad you liked it!

The focus fire sniping could have been achieved using the little hill behind the squad too eh. you only need to have cover from one of your models, so you just move the dude back two inches and to the right, then you have a cover save on most of the fist squad

Exactly. It is actually a very easy tactic to use and once mindful of it, players will be able to see how to apply it in their games all the time.

Loving the snipe tactics. MOAR


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Got anything up your sleeve for punking Riptides or Serpents? 'Cause that would make me very happy indeed.

The next video is really useful for taking down Tau units, especially Riptides!

Having fun with this thread already, took third in my FLGS tourney using them.

@Bobaram

Nice one, well done!

11-6-2013 Defensive Assault

This stuff is great, thank you!

Poor Bill. He shouldn't have flaked on toilet duty when it was his turn last week. No one likes a lazy 'gaunt...

Hahaha, yes, Bill should have upped his game, he was slippin!

Very useful info with the defensive overwatch video, though it might prove hard to use in some scenarios where there isn't alot of similar cover nearby.

Great vid. You can also pull this off with transports (yay rhino!).

I like your new text bubbles.

This latest one was really helpful, I never thought of that!

Also lol at that jump-cut as you were calling the Tau names. Did you say something less-than-appropriate?

Seeing so many Line of Sight tricks makes me really want to pick up a Chaos Land Raider...So many possibilities

I played against a Frontline Gaming player at FoB in Denver.

I think Frankie? Korn Dog list.

Was a riot of a game cause my marker drones kept winning or drawing in close combat.

I got rolled that game but have not laughed that hard in a long time.

@Ultimentra

You can use Rhinos and such to do it too, as Ansacs pointed out. It's actually easier to do than you may think. I run 6+ Rhinos in my SM lists now just for this kind of thing. It is ultra helpful to keep your boys alive.

@Talore

Hahaha, perhaps I went a bit overboard and decided to just cut it

@Changerofways

For sure, and Chaos gets Dirge Casters!!! Ah, soo good. I wish SMs could get something like that but then, hey, we get everything else! haha

@Steel-WOLF

Yeah, that's Frankie my business partner and co-owner of FLG. He's a great guy to play, despite being Captain Cheese Dick, he is one of the most enjoyable opponents you'll ever have.

So Reece where is the blooper reel with that on it?

Haha, deleted =P

In this episode of Frontline Gaming's Tips, Tricks and Dirty Tactics, we explain what Barrage Sniping is and how to use it!

The Army gentleman (Anonymou5, I believe) who did the Daemon Prince and Grey Hunter videos is really informative. Is he a member of FLG or just a friend?

Already knew about the Jaws disembark procedure, but the amazing detail and thought put into model positioning was enlightening and a reminder to think hard and play smart instead of just randomly deploying.

Sacrificial charges combined with disordered charges is an amazing tip, as is spacing properly so closest models are the ones removed first AND do not interfere with multi-IC LoS for the RP.

Maybe it's just my inexperience, but I consider that some really high level play, and it's obvious that detractors of the game who label 40k as easy and brainless aren't aware of the finer points to the game.

Yeah, you said it. The game is so much more complex and nuanced than most folks realize. There is a reason the same players win over and over with different armies. Skill is the most important factor in the game and model placement is where you see the really good player gain the advantage. List is important, but not that important, honestly.

Anonymou5 is a friend, he is an officer in the army so he doesn't work for us =)

ansacs wrote:

TheRedWingArmada wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:


I'm of the school that if your predator can shoot at me, I can shoot back at you. Sure, the Vindie gives you cover. I'll still want the shot.

You'll want the shot. But you won't get it because of obscuring/obstruction rules. I believe it's more than 25% of the vehicle must be showing? Barrels and such not counting (so the 25% > of the frame showing)? That is, of course, unless you are shooting from an elevated position. Then I'd give it up.

Of course, if it was really becoming an issue, we could always roll for itself .

This is not right. If any hull is showing you can target it. BTW the turret is hull not gun.

Somehow I forgot this thread was here. lol. @ansacs: I don't have my rulebook infront of me right this second, however I would ask that you faq chk me about vehicle obstruction. Even if the turret counts as hull, it's not more than 25% of the Predator. That said, the strat I'm talking about above only works for units that are facing it from the front (basically facing the Vindicator shields). Positioning can break this formation, but from what I remember, this is sound, albiet a bit cheesy perhaps. I'll faq chk this myself when my bag gets back to the house with my rulebook in it, but the bit about vehicles in cover and drawing LoS. I even have the pictures in my head of that page, of Eldar Fire Dragons trying to get at a Razorback (i think?) behind a wall.

I'm not being obstinate here to be jerk, but more that this could be an extremely effective strategy for surviving armored columns. Hell, I put this together for Chaos, who doesn't necessarily sport massive vehicles. Imagine a strat like this for IG? :O

Reecius wrote: @Changerofways

For sure, and Chaos gets Dirge Casters!!! Ah, soo good. I wish SMs could get something like that but then, hey, we get everything else! haha.

I-no-rite? I'm still a little cheesed that the CSM's haven't upgraded to Storm Bolters yet. lol Wth? Even if they were still stealing equipment, they'd have at least found a Storm Bolter.

That aside though, could you imagine SM/GK's charging out of a Land Raider to the sounds of people screaming and dying? XD I know in DoW they give the Sisters Dirge Casters that sang hymns, but the Chaos Dirge Casters are no such thing. On that note, 8" Dirge Casters. >> Give Assault Teams a little bit of buffer room for when the charge doesn't pan out right.

Side note: Is it Barrage or Ordinance that skimps on scatter when throwing multiple Barrage/Ordinance down range? In that the plate just flips over itself, whichever direction it scatters? That would make barrage sniping so much worse if he an IC had to deal with volleys on his head instead of just the one Whirlwind.

Good stuff. Keep'em coming!

Warhammer 40K Tips, Tricks and Dirty Tactics; Slingshot Engage

In this episode of Frontline Gaming's Tips, Tricks and Dirty Tactics, Reecius explains the Slingshot Engage tactic and shows some of it's applications.




@TheRedWingArmada

Thanks, glad you like them! And yes, multiple barrage weapons are awesome for sniping as if you roll a few hits, they stack so many wounds on the target model, it's crazy.