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Hey all had a bit of a issue in a local tourny.

Orcs vs Marines

Orc player outflanked with the deff choppas? (Orc helicopters). And assaulted a land raider and popped it. The TO was busy and I recall reading that outflanking or scouts can't assault 1st turn and or arriving from reserve. Please correct me if I am wrong just trying to help a friend out.

Partially wrong.

Relevant rules (you'll need to look them up yourself):
Deep Strike
Infiltrate
Scout
Reserves

Not sure why Happy has referenced the Deep Strike rule here...
Anyway, the answer is in the reserves section, I think the second page second paragraph (in bold)? Going from memory so you'll need to find reserves in the index for a page reference.

No you can't, there are currently only 2 things that can arrive from reserve that can assault and that is because it says so in their codex, Ymgarls from tyranids can arrive from area terrain and move and assault, and the blood angels vanguard veterans can deep strike with jump packs and assault on that same turn because their codex says so.

Also Ork Stormboyz can do it with Zagstruk in the lead. In fact Stormboyz are also one of the only units that can charge more than 24" and so get a first turn assault.

Lots of units can charge more than 24" on turn 1 for instance anything in a battlewagon or Landraider...

Back on topic your opponent made a number of mistakes. Check the reserves rules for assaulting when arriving from reserve.

Also how did he wreck your Landraider in assault? A Deffkopta is S3 even with a buzzsaw he can only get to S7 on the charge so how did he do ANYTHING to your Landraider in assault?

 FlingitNow wrote:
Lots of units can charge more than 24" on turn 1 for instance anything in a battlewagon or Landraider...

I'm confused. I thought you could only get out if the vehicle moved 6" or less. So 6" vehicle move, disembark within 6" of the vehicle and then max of 12" charge. Have I missed something?

@Flinty: no you haven't

@FlingitNow: the Nob can be given a power claw at the very least....but thats alot of 6's....

@OP: as stated abovecheck the reserves rule and ask the opponent to proove he can contradict the reserves restrictions (he wont be able to)

@Flinty you've obviously missed the pivot trick. I start my battle wagon sideways on at the 12" line I pivot 90° the front of my BWis now about 2"-3" over the line I move 6" (7" with red paint job) disembark and assault.

@Nutty there is no such thing as a deffkopta nob.

 Flinty wrote:

 FlingitNow wrote:
Lots of units can charge more than 24" on turn 1 for instance anything in a battlewagon or Landraider...

I'm confused. I thought you could only get out if the vehicle moved 6" or less. So 6" vehicle move, disembark within 6" of the vehicle and then max of 12" charge. Have I missed something?

A long vehicle, placed sideways at the limit of the deployment zone, can gain a couple of inches by turning. It still relies on a very lucky roll for charge distance to be successful.

 Flinty wrote:

 FlingitNow wrote:
Lots of units can charge more than 24" on turn 1 for instance anything in a battlewagon or Landraider...

I'm confused. I thought you could only get out if the vehicle moved 6" or less. So 6" vehicle move, disembark within 6" of the vehicle and then max of 12" charge. Have I missed something?

You've missed the 15 year old pivot "trick"

Deploy sideways, turn and move forwards. You gain distance if the vehicle is longer than it is wide, as the displadcemnt generated by pivoting is not movement.

Works for me thanks! I knew I saw it some where.

 Flinty wrote:

 FlingitNow wrote:
Lots of units can charge more than 24" on turn 1 for instance anything in a battlewagon or Landraider...

I'm confused. I thought you could only get out if the vehicle moved 6" or less. So 6" vehicle move, disembark within 6" of the vehicle and then max of 12" charge. Have I missed something?

You are correct, except it has to be an assault vehicle and Orks with red paint can move 7", get out then assault.

 FeindusMaximus wrote:

 Flinty wrote:

 FlingitNow wrote:
Lots of units can charge more than 24" on turn 1 for instance anything in a battlewagon or Landraider...

I'm confused. I thought you could only get out if the vehicle moved 6" or less. So 6" vehicle move, disembark within 6" of the vehicle and then max of 12" charge. Have I missed something?

You are correct, except it has to be an assault vehicle and Orks with red paint can move 7", get out then assault.

Except for the aforementioned pivot trick.

Pivot trick aside I do find it funny no one else has pointed out it was impossible for the deffkoptas to hurt the Landraider in combat so whether he could charge or not is fairly irrelevant. Just so much wrong with the scenario posted.

I know it's a moot point, but A deffkopta with a Klaw is only Str 7 on the charge IIRC. VS an AV of 14 all around it can never penetrate?