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Strombones wrote:Hmmm. Not much to get excited about here. I was fairly certain that a new 40k codex would be announced. I wonder if GW will stop making LOTR stuff after the series concludes. Anyway Looks like December is going to make 20 people very happy indeed.
Does anyone still find this even slightly amusing? Nope, thought not...
If you can keep your head, while all about you are losing their's, then you have probably completely misunderstood the situation!
Strombones wrote:Hmmm. Not much to get excited about here. I was fairly certain that a new 40k codex would be announced. I wonder if GW will stop making LOTR stuff after the series concludes. Anyway Looks like December is going to make 20 people very happy indeed.
Does anyone still find this even slightly amusing? Nope, thought not...
I did
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Fafnir wrote: Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
It's the part of the Hobbit where they escape the Elvish dungeons by hiding in barrels and riding down the river to Laketown. So presumably something like some Elf guards or some Lakemen, and some Dwarves half-in/half-out of barrels.
More specifically it's the name of the chapter from The Hobbit that the above described events occur in.
It is Chapter 9 of the book.
No call for "wut" (unless of course someone isn't a Hobbit fan, naturally), this very much makes sense for a name of a release associated with The Hobbit.
It's the part of the Hobbit where they escape the Elvish dungeons by hiding in barrels and riding down the river to Laketown. So presumably something like some Elf guards or some Lakemen, and some Dwarves half-in/half-out of barrels.
Which shouldn't involve a fight of ANY kind...what is wrong with those movies?
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Kirasu: Have we fallen so far that we are excited that GW is giving us the opportunity to spend 58$ for JUST the rules? Surprised it's not "Dataslate: Assault Phase"
AlexHolker: "The power loader is a forklift. The public doesn't complain about a forklift not having frontal armour protecting the crew compartment because the only enemy it is designed to face is the OHSA violation."
AlexHolker: "Allow me to put it this way: Paramount is Skynet, reboots are termination attempts, and your childhood is John Connor."
hotsauceman1 wrote: What is the saying about a fool and his money. dont blame GW, blame the fools
Absolutely. People were shelling out double the price to get a dust jacket, lol.
It would be downright silly of GW not to see how much more they could fleece people for.
Marneus Calgar is referred to as "one of the Imperium's greatest tacticians" and he treats the Codex like it's the War Bible. If the Codex is garbage, then how bad is everyone else?
i was going to get back into LOTR last year but the releases werent the Elves that i hoped for with Stag riding king in tow.
I'll see what the miniatures look like on release - i've been disappointed in a number of the releases so if they dont cut the mustard the idea will be shelved until May when the predicted Wood elves get revamped.
GW have no choice but to make a huge Hobbit release in time for the film. On the films release i'm sure kids will drag their parents straight out of the Cinema and into a GW. Its how some of us got into wargaming, so as much as i loathe things that GW have done it helps build the hobby as a whole and inadvertedly create more 40k/WHFB/Warmahordes/AvP players for the future - good luck to them!
if a dolphin will jump out of water for fish, just imagine what it would do for chips?
Tolkien's dragons are sometimes as large as a mountain. Smaug in particular is what would old DnD 3e describe as Colossal - bilbo was as big as one of his claws on his toes. In order to get the scale right, GW would have to learn how to produce Imperator-class Titans in plastic
an anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:
Stronghold Assault adds a lot of Fortifications into regular games of 40k, and it appears most of the new ones are from the Wall of Martyrs sets. There are 17 new datasheets for fortifications.
Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defense Line is two sets of trenches for 80pts that only take up one fortifications slot, while a Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defense Emplacement is a single trench for 40pts. So there are lots of new options, that include multiple fortifications and brings them into a single foc slot.
Here are some of the new fortifications options
Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defense Emplacement
Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defense Line
Macro Cannon Aquila Strongpoint
Skyshield Landing Pad (can be upgraded to start a flyer on it)
Imperial Strongpoint (two bastions and an aegis defense line)
Imperial Defense Network (defense line, defense emplacement, imperial bunker, and a pair of vengeance weapon batteries) Can add quad-autocannons to the bunker
There are three new Seige War missions also included in the release
an anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:Escalation gives each army access to at least one Lord of War that are for 'regular' 40k games. There appears to be a difference from Apocalypse and regular 40k games, but the exact rules for them I do not know. Any Lords of War though are expensive in points, and I have been told that the Khorne Lord of Skulls matches the point value found in apocalypse, sitting at 888pts.
There are only certain units that are in escalation, so no others are allowed for regular 40k games. There are only 16 listed in the new book. As to the point level of the games, there is mention of 1500 or 2000pt games. Here are the known models that can be used for regular games in Escalation.
Imperial Guard-Baneblade or Shadowsword
Chaos Space Marines-Khorne Lord of Skulls
Space Marines: Thunderhawk
Tyranids: Harridan
Eldar and Dark Eldar: Revenant Titan
Necrons: Necron Obelisk
Ork: Stompa
Fortifications hit 6th edition with a bang upon its release. Instantly Aegis Defense lines were everywhere, and still today we see them in a good percentage of lists. Until now though, updates and new fortifications have been virtually non-existent with the exception of the Apocalypse releases which included some 40k rules in the box.
So now we have rumors of a large expansion into fortifications, including racial versions of the existing ones, and a supplement/expansion that will cover it. Months ago, we had something along those lines was in the early works, with a loose estimated timeframe of before or during summer 2014.
Whispers of this expansion have been appearing now and then, and finally something that looks a little more solid has run across my desk. A fortification supplement, something we have been really wanting to see as a community, and something that I would be picking up myself.
Please remember that these are rumors, and according to this rumor, the supplement is still in the works.
an anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:there's a supplement that's divided by race with new fortifications and also new racial upgrades to specific fortifications.
For example the aegis defense line is imperial, but there'll be a tau version with a rail cannon instead of Icarus lascannon (not actual rules, just an example).
Currently it's being playtested as requiring a detachment of the race to upgrade the fortification, but that might change (everyone's been using imperial stuff for a long time now).
Just to be clear, the base of the fortification such as bastion, aegis, fortress, etc will all be the same, just the upgrades/guns that will be racially specific.
In so far as models, expect only imperial versions, and a modeling section on converting building racially inspired fortifications.
The book will have the rules for all the currently released fortifications plus a couple new ones (with models) and then as mentioned rules for racial upgrades.
an Anonymous source on faeit212 wrote:There are going to be two new expansions for Warhammer 40k in December, both pointed directly at getting new options into your standard 40k games. New Fortifications and Super-Heavy options will become available to play without playing Apocalypse, focusing instead on regular games of 40k.
Stronghold Assault
*40k expansion for regular games of 40k *Rules for 17 Fortifications like the Wall of Martyrs Imperial Defense Line and the Macro-Cannon Aquila Strongpoint
*Some Contain Several Fortifications that can be Taken as a Group that take up one Fortification Slot
*Upgrades for Fortifications and New Rules for Buildings
BrookM wrote: Also, is Blood of Sigmar a fantasy supplement or the like?
an anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:
December Release for Warhammer Fantasy
*Sigmar's Blood is a Fantasy supplement where you can recreate story of Volkmar's invasion of Sylvania
*Each battle contains rules that carry through to the next battle.
*The supplement comes with historical background and large hobby section
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Medium of Death wrote: I really can't see GW making Smaug to scale with the others. It would be a massive investment in what appears to not be a very popular game.
Though a well-done "huge dragon" miniature would have a lot of appeal outside the Hobbit.
"The 75mm gun is firing. The 37mm gun is firing, but is traversed round the wrong way. The Browning is jammed. I am saying "Driver, advance." and the driver, who can't hear me, is reversing. And as I look over the top of the turret and see twelve enemy tanks fifty yards away, someone hands me a cheese sandwich."
If the rumour of the Forgeworld website being rolled into the GW one I guess it's possible they do Smaug as a giant direct only resin made by Forgeworld
probably easier than tooling something huge in resin with a limited lifespan licence that seems to be a bit of a flop
Kirasu wrote: Sadly, you'd probably sell more Marneus Calgar wearing a santa hat models than you will most of those hobbit models.
now that I'd probably buy, but knowing GW it would be at least £35 and limited to "250" models worldwide
Slaanesh: "Hey guys we're back! We brought presents. And yes, they ARE sexually suggestive"
Tzeentch: "So did we miss anything while we were away"
Khorne and Nurgle trade a shifty glance
Tzeentch: "Hey! Whos been touching my stuff! Where did my Old World go?!"
Khorne and Nurgle wander off whistling.
Squidbot wrote: That's a lot of finecast, considering the rumours of moving away from it.
It'd show their level of commitment to the Hobbit though; provide enough to claim they are supporting it. They've probably got enough already produced to satisfy both of the fans for a while without casting up any more.
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Kirasu wrote: Or finecast is still a lower cost alternative (for them not us, of course) for models that won't sell a lot.
Exactly. I think all GW are doing is lowering the minimum investment level for plastic, which is why we're seeing them replace 40K units with it (Tyranid Hive Guard), but LOTR stuff still gets low production run resin.
Shingen wrote: That list looks about as credible as Boris Johnson in a suit.
Considering it's the one GW sent out to retailers, I'd say it's credible.
....and lo!.....The Age of Sigmar came to an end when Saint Veetock and his hamster legions smote the false Sigmar and destroyed the bubbleverse and lead the true believers back to the Old World.
Shingen wrote: That list looks about as credible as Boris Johnson in a suit.
Considering it's the one GW sent out to retailers, I'd say it's credible.
Ooh snap. That's confirmation from you? Okay, I have some updating to do now.
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