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But that's only half of the balance equation.

You mentioned briefly that most people will just take the best units available, which is a problem on its own. Frankly, the route they're going is the laziest way of balancing; removing factions and allowing everyone to take anything (within a few restrictions on the allies chart) will actually shrink the overall diversity the game could have if they tried to balance the game both internally and externally in every faction.

I just find it lazy at best. I know GW has tried more and more to squeeze the most amount of money out of us as their consumers, but their releases are leaving increasingly bitter tastes in my mouth.

The game after all these releases will be far from perfectly balanced. It'll have increasingly poor balance across the units and you'll see less and less 'competitive' builds when the ultimate combo is found.

Yeah, sky is falling and all that. I'll wait and see what happens after its all said and done, but I can't see it ending well for the game.

 magodedisco wrote:
Hey guys, this photo was making the rounds yesterday on tg. It obviously lines up with today's release and matches many of the formation releases they've done.

This is legit.

So, next up from BL are short stories about Kayvaan Shrike, Logan Grimnar, a HH Khârn Audiobook, Astorath the Grim, Typhus, Lysander, Kaldor Draigo, Vulkan Hestan and Helbrecht.

And the authors of the next 4 short stories are Gav Thorpe, Cavan Scott, Anthony Reynolds and Andy Smillie, in that order.

I'm not sure that there will end up with a single (or even a few) 'Uber builds'

although you might find that a different set of units starts showing up a lot instead of the current common ones

Don't worry man, it's not a Tigurius supplement. If it's anything like the Warlords of the Dark M.: Ahriman, I'd avoid it if I were you guys.

Oh please let vanguard clash be the rumored mordheim like warbands for every fantasy army skirmish rules. That would be da best.

 Kroothawk wrote:
"Tau Fireblade Support Cadre - For 290$ you didn't really expect the rules to be included, right?"

I suppose they felt the free Riptide was enough?

 Brometheus wrote:
Don't worry man, it's not a Tigurius supplement. If it's anything like the Warlords of the Dark M.: Ahriman, I'd avoid it if I were you guys.

But the Ahriman one is from Black Library, and the Tigurius and Vulkan Hestan releases are under the Digital Editions tab. All the Digital Edition things so far have had new rules, aside from the one where 'tactica' is right in the name. If Warlords is just another name for 'tactica,' then certainly it will be something to avoid, but who knows now! Maybe there will be some crazy new rules to go along with our favorite special characters.

tomjoad, definitely not even a tactica.

Oh, and here's the image of Ahriman, which looks just like the Tigurius thing: http://www.blacklibrary.com/Images/Product/DefaultBL/large/2013-10-11%2016.00.38.png

Hell, if there were new rules.. well.. Worth it maybe then

BL and Digital Editions are the same people aren't they? I'm pretty sure Tigurius will be right there with Ezekial in the DE tab.

 Kirasu wrote:
Hm I hope the Tempestus firebase gets rules since I actually bought that boxset..It didn't even come with the rules for the fortifications wtf.. you get those when you buy them individually.

I expect they'll be in the book that comes out this Saturday.

I don't think they would release different rules for Tigurius from what he already has in the codex, perhaps just offering him as a choice in any army like a formation. Digital Editions had an opportunity to update the special characters in Codex: Inquisition and decided not to.

 Oaka wrote:
I don't think they would release different rules for Tigurius from what he already has in the codex, perhaps just offering him as a choice in any army like a formation. Digital Editions had an opportunity to update the special characters in Codex: Inquisition and decided not to.

The photo says "WARLORDS of the DARK MILLENIUM".

The items which make formations available say "DATASLATES".

Yeah it'll probably just be a big fluff piece. It may have rules, but they will be his Codex rules.

Also due to it's status as a Formation rather than Ally slot, you can effectively give Ravens and Talons to Angels/Wolves provided they can front the cost of the Formation.

This is why i actually dig this one, though it's a pricey way to shoehorn some good fliers into your DA/SW without using allies.

Still, pretty cool, not broken, gives some utility for armies that might want to pick these up. I like.

For Wolves, it's totally worth it. Being able to roll on 2nd turn and use Power of the Machine Spirit to fire Concussive missiles at two seperate targets nicely sets you up to do something like Jaws 2 Wraithknights, or two Iron Arm'd daemon princes, or two of whatever awesome monstrous creature the Tyranids get next.

DaddyWarcrimes wrote:
For Wolves, it's totally worth it. Being able to roll on 2nd turn and use Power of the Machine Spirit to fire Concussive missiles at two seperate targets nicely sets you up to do something like Jaws 2 Wraithknights, or two Iron Arm'd daemon princes, or two of whatever awesome monstrous creature the Tyranids get next.

It's the final nail in the coffin for Helldrake armies.

How? RPs can't ride in the Raven, they have to pod in like everyone else.



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I'm not sure what all the whining about the Dataslates is about; aside from Belakor, the only real meta-changer, the rest of them are only tier-2 at best.

Tau Firebase is a direct buff to the O'Vesa star build, while hitting Wave Serpent spam hard and that's about it.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/games-workshop-digital-editions/Tigurius.html

Warlords of the Dark Millennium: Tigurius gives deep and unique insight into the mysterious Chief Librarian of the Ultramarines Chapter of the Adeptus Astartes. As the Ultramarines’ Master of Arcana, Tigurius is steeped in psychic powers and precognitive abilities.

His merest hunch, honed by centuries of experience and wisdom, is often worth more than the predictions of a battalion of strategists and a fleet of spies. Equally at home amongst the hoarded knowledge of the Chapter’s Librarius as he is upon the battlefield, Tigarius is indeed an enigma. Now you can learn more about his history, battles and his deadly attempt to tap into the gestalt consciousness of the Tyranid Hive Mind.

About This Series:
The galaxy burns with the fires of countless wars and conflicts, heroes and villains leading their armies in endless battle against their foes. Warlords of the Dark Millennium explores the history, wargear and fighting styles of some of the galaxy’s most powerful warriors.

Day 7 is up one day early

I love how even GW has no idea what to do with WFB.. The 40k formations are amazing, yet the WFB ones are just a mismatch of some of the worst units in the entire game.

Who would ever use that utter garbage?

So what is the deal with the Tigurius release? Is is just fluff or does he have his own warlord traits and other rules?

He already has his own warlord traits and other rules tho? Seems like just fluff.

Maybe so. I am interested in the part about the tyranid Hive Mind. It would be cool if they gave him something extra to gear up for the nid release.

 reds8n wrote:
His merest hunch, honed by centuries of experience and wisdom, is often worth more than the predictions of a battalion of strategists and a fleet of spies.

"This was very handy even back home years ago, when we were hanging out together? He'd know if the quarterback was on coke. He'd know if his girlfriend was knocked up. He'd know the wind velocity for the field goals. He'd know the different bounce you'd get of the different kinds of wood they'd use on college basketball courts, you know? There was nothing about a game he could bet that he wouldn't know. Season after season, the jerk was the only guaranteed winner I ever knew. But he was so serious about it all that that I don't think he ever enjoyed himself. But, that's just the way he was.

Back then, the Chapter Master's didn't give a feth about whether he enjoyed himself or not; to them, he was a cash register. All they had to do was ring the bell and take the money, especially Sicarius, who was a fething degenerate gambler who always lost... I mean, unless Tigurius made his bets."

- Battle Brother Pesci, 2nd Company

Some info from Natfka

via Tune from the Faeit 212 inbox.
7th: Battlescroll: Creatures of the Chaos Wastes
8th: Dataslate: Eldar Ghost Warriors
9th: Battlescroll: Crypt Scavengers
10th: Index Chaotica: Terminus Est
11th: Dataslate: Centurion Siegebreaker Cohort
12th: Dataslate: Reclusiam Command Squad
13th: Warlords of the Dark Millennium Vulkan He’stan
14th: Warhammer: Vanguard Clash

via an anoymous source on Faeit 212
Dec15 - Warlords of the Dark Milienium : Dante - Dante Short Story
Dec16 - Warlords of the Dark Milienium : Champions of chaos - Lucius short story
Dec17 - Carnage, 4 players mission for 40k - Kantor short story
Dec18 - Warlords of the Dark Milienium : Sicarius - Sicarius Short Story
Dec19 - On contamunated ground, Apoc mission - Abbadon short story
Dec20 - Munitorum vol I - Calgar short story
Dec21 - Kill Team - Gabriel Seth short story
Dec22 - WHFB Blood in the snow - Bjorn short story
Dec23 - WHFB scrolls of binding compendium - The sanguinor short story
Dec24 - Warlords of the Dark Milienium : Masters of the dark angels - 
Sammael short story
Dec25 - Data slate CYPHER - HH Cypher short

Link; http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/12/cypher-and-rest-of-decembers-releases.html?m=1

Interested in the fluff on Cypher.. I wont be using him though.

Very very disappointed with their Warlords of the Dark M. releases. Those books are absolutely shameful "products". Has anyone actually purchased them? I am sorry, if you have

Oh god... carnage. Not again.

Ah, guess they're saving one of the best for last (Cypher) so they can go out with a bang, just like how they started with one of the best (Belakor)

So do all of these advent items such as the character's and warlord come with new rules? Can't wait to see what Vulkan gets!

 Kirasu wrote:
I love how even GW has no idea what to do with WFB.. The 40k formations are amazing, yet the WFB ones are just a mismatch of some of the worst units in the entire game.

Who would ever use that utter garbage?

Agreed. I was excited for this as a chance to get dragon ogres (and potentially a shaggoth) back into my beastmen army, but that's as badly written as possible.

Could have been a fun but useful addition if it was set out like this:

0-2 Monsters from the following like: Mutalith Vortex Beast, Slaughterbrute, Giant, Shaggoth
2 Chaos Spawn must be taken for each monster taken.
1 Unit of Dragon Ogres may be taken for each monster taken.

No, data slates are new rules. The other lines like Warlord's have been going for a long time and are basically fluff pieces.

Damn. Warlord =fluff = $ saved.would rather have had the dataslate for Salamanders then. Maybe some sort of Firedrakes First company formation/honor guard for the Chaptermaster. Or Hell, give us the Salamander Chapter Master!