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Well now we know SuperHeavies and More Fortifications are coming along with formations, what are some of the things you'd like to see from the 'Expansions' within 40k?

Since we're now getting formations, I'd suppose I'd love to see some of the Strategems arrive into 40k, like the Planetstrike and City of Death Strategems that have been showing up in the Supplements. Such as the Weapon Virus from the Black Legion Supplement.

I would like to see the return of random strategy cards and missions from 2nd edition 40K.

I know it's more randomisation, but it really forced generals to think ahead when deploying as they didn't know what mission they would have to accomplish.

 rohansoldier wrote:
I would like to see the return of random strategy cards and missions from 2nd edition 40K.

I know it's more randomisation, but it really forced generals to think ahead when deploying as they didn't know what mission they would have to accomplish.

It's been way to long, forgot about those, but couldn't those be manipulated by the 'Tactical Score' of the faction, back when each race had their own intelligence for generalship? Or am I thinking of something else from back then.

More mission variety. We have our three deployment options and 6 missions, but they're pretty much all either "Kill as much as you can" or "Hold the objective". Battle Missions was a load of pap too, since most of them were just "Hold the objectives but this time you get a slightly different deployment zone".

I think I've still got a copy of 3rd Edition somewhere back home, and the missions there were so much better. You had Breakout, where you were surrounded and had to get as many units off the table. You had Meat Grinder, get as many units behind the enemy lines, very little of the boring stuff we have today.

 Valkyrie wrote:
More mission variety. We have our three deployment options and 6 missions, but they're pretty much all either "Kill as much as you can" or "Hold the objective". Battle Missions was a load of pap too, since most of them were just "Hold the objectives but this time you get a slightly different deployment zone".

I think I've still got a copy of 3rd Edition somewhere back home, and the missions there were so much better. You had Breakout, where you were surrounded and had to get as many units off the table. You had Meat Grinder, get as many units behind the enemy lines, very little of the boring stuff we have today.

This. As an example, Malifaux has a really cool mission generation system. That one be the first thing I would want added to 40k, if I had a choice. More diverse missions.

Codex: Black Templars. Since that's not going to happen, some sort of CC formation for Codex: Space Marines that doesn't suck at CC.

More everything. Especially mini-dexes.

I'd love to see Xenos Fortifications, the idea that only Imperials have Fortifications (without home-crafting, which frustrates some of the 'purists' that think the true model should be used) with weapons to Imperial Standards (no way around that) is stupid.

Aside from that, more spread abilities of Interceptor/Skyfire to certain armies that don't have it because of older Codexes, or were ignored when their Codex hit (Eldar Interceptor?).

The ability to nuke it from orbit if the Tyranids win. Just to be sure.

That you can charge after deepstrike

Since we seem to be going all the way anyway, id love to see the addition of support assists like in apoc.

More land mines and orbital support ya know?

 ChocletEyeOfTerror wrote:
That you can charge after deepstrike

I don't think everyone should get the ability to do that (Hammernators would be too good then), but some units should get it.

Honestly I think there should be a difference between "Deep Striking" (as in coming in from Orbit or making a high-altitude drop from something that's flaying overhead) and what something like a Mawloc does (namely burst up from underground). At least in terms of the assault rules.

Easily accessible rules.

Right now everything is spread across the winds. Codexes, supplements, e-codexes, Apocalypse, FW, FAQs, FW FAQs, Advent calendars, in the box, psychic cards, and of course the main rules book.

 Farseer Faenyin wrote:
Aside from that, more spread abilities of Interceptor/Skyfire to certain armies that don't have it because of older Codexes, or were ignored when their Codex hit (Eldar Interceptor?).

I personally like that codecies have certain weaknesses and strengths...its a great aspect of the game that I hate seeing be dulled by the inclusion of allies.

Honestly I just wish all allies were convenience or come the apocalypse. Makes more sense to me.

Thud, they'll fix that with 7th Edition. Which I imagine the book will look something like this in terms of thickness:



"The Rules" version will be a slight bit thinner.

Exalted for the double use of "Thud" as a reference to a user and the sound of the book dropping.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 ChocletEyeOfTerror wrote:
That you can charge after deepstrike

I don't think everyone should get the ability to do that (Hammernators would be too good then), but some units should get it.

Honestly I think there should be a difference between "Deep Striking" (as in coming in from Orbit or making a high-altitude drop from something that's flaying overhead) and what something like a Mawloc does (namely burst up from underground). At least in terms of the assault rules.

Still more legit that spam of drakes. Or combined force of Chaos and Tau. Dark Gods, help us all if somebody would done that

 ChocletEyeOfTerror wrote:
That you can charge after deepstrike

Yeah, Ymgarls are simply lying in wait, Daemons come out of deepstrike like it's breathing to then. Dark Eldar clearly walk through a gate/portal and have no reason to be stumbling around.

But some things exist purely for game mechanics and enjoyable play...like not scoring while in a vehicle.

Simple: viable builds for every codex

Another one that popped into my head: I'd like to see a tightening of the rules of what you can and can't take. A prime example is in the Tau Codex: Despite the fact that Shadowsun and Farsight are enemies, and that Farsight's clan has no Ethereals, there's nothing in the Codex preventing you from using them all together. While this has been fixed in the Enclaves supplement, it ruins the fluff a bit when you can just take anything like that.

Same with the Marine Codex. You're a bit restricted in special characters due to Chapter Tactics, but they then say you can ally with another Chapter, making this point redundant.

To put it into simple terms, I'd like to see some sort of restrictions in place to encourage more variety in lists, such as 0-1 or 1+ selections, and the unlocking of units through other choices, rather than just moving them around the FOC. Same goes for Apocalypse and these new formations; instead of saying "Any army can take these formations", they should restrict it more, but of course GW would never do this as they'd sell fewer kits.

A high quality set of rules that aren't the laughing stock of the major table top games as far as balance, fluidness, and common sense.

1: What Orock just said about the rules. A balanced game anyone can enjoy.
2: Good, interesting Codexes for the armies I like: Chaos Legions, Chaos Undivided, Sisters of Battle, Adeptus Mechanicus... and more Xenos.
3: Most of all: I want Codex writers to stop butchering the fluff. It is a pain, and it is getting worse and worse.

 da001 wrote:
1: What Orock just said about the rules. A balanced game anyone can enjoy.
2: Good, interesting Codexes for the armies I like: Chaos Legions, Chaos Undivided, Sisters of Battle, Adeptus Mechanicus... and more Xenos.
3: Most of all: I want Codex writers to stop butchering the fluff. It is a pain, and it is getting worse and worse.

Which fluff exactly? The fluff that had Marines as basically goons? The fluff with a Half-Eldar Librarian? The fluff that has been changed, amended and even written out of existence several times now?

The fluff thing strikes me as funny because when you look the fluff has never been consistent and complaining about it now is like showing up to party 25 years too late.

I want variety with restrictions, just a codex with a rule book and well thats it. I also want my rule book to be a full rule book like the flames of war one.

1. Better force Org Chart.
2. Deathwing Supplement.

Thats it. I dont play enough to want to much else.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 da001 wrote:
1: What Orock just said about the rules. A balanced game anyone can enjoy.
2: Good, interesting Codexes for the armies I like: Chaos Legions, Chaos Undivided, Sisters of Battle, Adeptus Mechanicus... and more Xenos.
3: Most of all: I want Codex writers to stop butchering the fluff. It is a pain, and it is getting worse and worse.

Which fluff exactly? The fluff that had Marines as basically goons? The fluff with a Half-Eldar Librarian? The fluff that has been changed, amended and even written out of existence several times now?

The fluff thing strikes me as funny because when you look the fluff has never been consistent and complaining about it now is like showing up to party 25 years too late.

This is off-topic, but I think that most of the fluff is consistent, mostly because it was presented as tales, propaganda and legends. That is no longer the case, we are presented with more and more "facts", and they contradict each other. Or negate previous stuff.

Just an opinion, of course.

I want a codex for Imperial Navy, with valks as dedicated transports and such :3 probably wont happen but I can dream

A good campaign system.

Does not even have to be super complex.

Something a bit more advanced than the one in IA12 would be great.

The holy grail would be one that incorporates battlefleet gothic, and 40k. Does not even have to be complex.

(I made one, but I don't want to have to make one...).

I'd like CoD stratagems in 40k, and would also want a greater variety of missions besides the rather basic ones available atm. More access to and variety of off board artillery such as the Chapter Master orbital bombardment (as a HS choice).

Forgeworld.