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is he the only primarch, that realistically can come back to rejoin the imperium...

Pretty much. But don't forget about Khan leading a slave rebellion in Commorragh.

Well Leman Russ has never officially "died". For all we know Khorne has been having fun throwing daemons at him for 10,000 years.

Before somebody tries to say Dorn might be alive... he is definitely dead.

I'd think they'd be able to bring Guilliman out of stasis and actually cure him at some point too...But that one never made too much sense to me.

Vulkan and Corax were never confirmed dead so theres that.

I heard some where that the necrons had Vulcan in stasis. Because reasons.

Pretty much EVERY primarch can come back besides Sanguinus. Even Ferrus Manus in the official fluff has legends that say he'll come back (how? Who knows. My own speculation is that Trazyn has him and if he ever does come back, necrodermis will be involved. Course, this might just be a case of typical Iron Hands stubborness and refusal to believe he's dead just because his body was never recovered, even though we know Horus got his head from Fulgrim)

The Lion is definately the most blatant, but all of the others (besides Ferrus, who has legends of coming back but doesn't have as much foreshadowing as the rest unless you assume that large man Trazyn has is him) are pretty much set up, too.

Leman Russ is rumoured to have been spotted during the Thirteenth Black Crusade leading the Thirteenth company.

Legend says Vulkan will come back when his lost artifacts are recovered (it's revealed in the book Unremembered Empire that he himself IS one of the lost artifacts)

Some believe Khan is still alive in the webway.

Dom's body was never found (a retcon).

Legend states Gulliman is healing.


Note that Sanguins NOT coming back is officially acknowledged too (well, if you take BL to be cannon). The blood angels bring up that he's the only primarch to not have any legends of coming back, which is why they suspect something is wrong when he DOES come back (it's not him). Of course, there's still the Sanguinor, though...

TiamatRoar wrote:
Pretty much EVERY primarch can come back besides Sanguinus. Even Ferrus Manus in the official fluff has legends that say he'll come back (how? Who knows. My own speculation is that Trazyn has him and if he ever does come back, necrodermis will be involved. Course, this might just be a case of typical Iron Hands stubborness and refusal to believe he's dead just because his body was never recovered, even though we know Horus got his head from Fulgrim)

The Lion is definately the most blatant, but all of the others (besides Ferrus, who has legends of coming back but doesn't have as much foreshadowing as the rest unless you assume that large man Trazyn has is him) are pretty much set up, too.

Leman Russ is rumoured to have been spotted during the Thirteenth Black Crusade leading the Thirteenth company.

Legend says Vulkan will come back when his lost artifacts are recovered (it's revealed in the book Unremembered Empire that he himself IS one of the lost artifacts)

Some believe Khan is still alive in the webway.

Dom's body was never found (a retcon).

Legend states Gulliman is healing.


Note that Sanguins NOT coming back is officially acknowledged too (well, if you take BL to be cannon). The blood angels bring up that he's the only primarch to not have any legends of coming back, which is why they suspect something is wrong when he DOES come back (it's not him). Of course, there's still the Sanguinor, though...

too bad GW will never expand the lore pass the 13th crusade

Maybe one day someone at GW will decide that making modern day primarch models could be good $$$ (whether that GW person is right or not is a separate question)

As of the moment though, I imagine they won't because Forge World has its own primarch models to release first. It'd be silly of GW to bring back the primarchs in modern times when they're still being brought to the tabletop for the Heresy. That'd be like, competing with yourself.

if sanguinius came back it would cease to be grimdark, as he would beat the shet outa the ones needing it and fix things. (the guy was a damned angel in the fluff, literally and metaphorically)

Russ is in the warp. And what is really scary is due to how the warp twists and spins time he could reemerge from the warp his younger self back when he should have been at the peak of his power. No rust to knock off.

Heck, he could show up with his army that he took into the warp with him. That would make somebody wet their pants I'm sure.

 Jayden63 wrote:
Russ is in the warp. And what is really scary is due to how the warp twists and spins time he could reemerge from the warp his younger self back when he should have been at the peak of his power. No rust to knock off.

Heck, he could show up with his army that he took into the warp with him. That would make somebody wet their pants I'm sure.

He kinda actually did that. The Thirteenth Company was spotted in the Thirteenth Black Crusade kicking ass and taking names and were led by a really really large man or something like that.

Granted, the Thirteenth Black Crusade may have been retconned. *shrug*

TiamatRoar wrote:

 Jayden63 wrote:
Russ is in the warp. And what is really scary is due to how the warp twists and spins time he could reemerge from the warp his younger self back when he should have been at the peak of his power. No rust to knock off.

Heck, he could show up with his army that he took into the warp with him. That would make somebody wet their pants I'm sure.

He kinda actually did that. The Thirteenth Company was spotted in the Thirteenth Black Crusade kicking ass and taking names and were led by a really really large man or something like that.

Granted, the Thirteenth Black Crusade may have been retconned. *shrug*

RUSS IS BACK

The lion might be a traitor, a fallen. Who knows. But even if we knew it would be a secret. Oh btw I think that the lion is the only one almost fully healed and ready to return. The watchers are watching him so he is watched by the watchers in the dark.. I meant in the rock!

But who is watching the watchers?

Mellow wrote:
But who is watching the watchers?

Me.

But yeah, possible returns for

Khan
Vulkan
Corax
Russ
Guilliman (possible - he ain't quite dead yet)
The Lion

Sanguinius has karked it (bar that fluff abomination the sanguinor)
Dorn is dead
Manus is very dead.

I'd love to see demon primarchs brought out for escalation though.

Most Daemon Primarchs are locked up in their fortresses, but Perturabo and especially Angron have been quite active during the post-Heresy period of time. Abaddon's 13th Black Crusade may allow all of them to return to the Materium to wreak some havoc

Regarding the Loyalists, Lion is the most probable to return, IIRC he's virtually waiting for the Emprah's call. Regarding the others... some might return, but those who are dead (or nigh-dead) should remain so, IMHO. Though, as much as I hate to admit it, I probably wouldn't mind Rawboot Girlyman getting back into action, just to even the odds.

Isn't there also quite the chance that Vulkan too? since he is essentially immortal, even moreso than his brothers

I think Vulkan is locked in some sort of coffin, and his whereabouts are unknown. Should the Salamanders find him, then yes, he'd most likely be able to aid the Imperium.

Provided he's not absolutely flying rodent gak crazy after being locked in a coffin for 10,000 years...

He would be in a state of dead if he were locked away like that.

Presumably he would regenerate once his body comes in contact with life sustaining conditions. (like air)

He was insane before he went into the coffin. If he gets out of the coffin, we've no idea whether he'd be sane or not.

 SarisKhan wrote:
Most Daemon Primarchs are locked up in their fortresses, but Perturabo and especially Angron have been quite active during the post-Heresy period of time.

All the Daemon Primarchs besides Lorgar have been given fluff pieces showing they are still active. They apparently spend most of their time more concerned with the Great Game but still do things in the Material World from time to time. The only one who hasn't been given a significant fluff piece showing him doing something in the Material World post-heresy is Lorgar (although even he at least taught Abaddon some Daemoncy for the thirteenth Black Crusade allegedly? I heard someone say that was in the Black Legion supplement but my memory could be off)

TiamatRoar wrote:
(...) Lorgar (although even he at least taught Abaddon some Daemoncy for the thirteenth Black Crusade allegedly? I heard someone say that was in the Black Legion supplement but my memory could be off)

That's correct, Lorgar taught Abaddon some dark arts. Actually, Abby has "recently" contacted all Daemon Primarchs in successful attempts to receive some favours from them, though Magnus refused a personal audience (Ahriman acted in his place). Alpharius wasn't amongst them, though, as he's been indirectly grouped with Konrad Curze as the Primarchs who "were no more" (pp. 51).

I would like to think that the Loyalist Primarchs all come back at the same time, see what the Imperium has become and join Chaos.

The Lion could come back that is for sure. But whether he is loyalist or not remains to be seen...

Also, others like Russ, Corax and Vulkan could also very well come back. The only ones I don't see coming back are Ferrus, Sanguinius, Dorn and Guilliman, as they are either dead or mortally wounded.

If only they hadn't retconned Fulgrim to just be evil instead of just possessed.

Why not clone The Emperor (apart from it being heresy)? On topic, though, none of them have a realistic possibility of coming back because they must face the greatest threat the galaxy - not just the Imperium of Man - has ever known: GW's inability to advance the plot.

I'm not saying that advancing the plot is necessary or indeed desirable, but just that it probably won't happen. In-universe, though, Vulkan, Russ, Khan and Lion-O seem to be it, with Roboute Guilliman a vague possibility.

EDIT: Hold on a second. If the Emperor is a Perpetual (the fluff of which I completely despise, but I digress), surely The Golden Throne would not be necessary?

I think it's Elf style immortality, immortal until stabbed or poisoned or something, Space Marine with extended life basically

As much as I'd like to agree, it isn't. Perpetuals are described as being able to regenerate, Wolverine-style, from anything. We're talking vaporisation. The only known way to kill one is to use a special item called a Fulgurite, apparently.

So, according to the stupid fluff of Perpetuals, The Emperor should not require the Golden Throne at all, and should have instantly regenerated moments after Horus wounded him.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
As much as I'd like to agree, it isn't. Perpetuals are described as being able to regenerate, Wolverine-style, from anything. We're talking vaporisation. The only known way to kill one is to use a special item called a Fulgurite, apparently.

So, according to the stupid fluff of Perpetuals, The Emperor should not require the Golden Throne at all, and should have instantly regenerated moments after Horus wounded him.

And if memory serves me, isn't it kinda left mysterious as though a certain Perpetual that got killed might return from death again if the items are collected or something? (I am very unsure about this)