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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/12 23:59:04
Subject: so is The Lion the only loyalist primarch that realistically has the possibility of coming back
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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What source says "Russ" was spotted leading the 13th Co. during the 13th Black Crusade?
Also it says "a giant of a man in baroque armor" in stasis within Trazyn's galleries... This could simply be a regular Astartes in an older mark armor, no where does it hint to be a Primarch but I can see where someone would jump to conclusions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/13 00:47:40
Subject: so is The Lion the only loyalist primarch that realistically has the possibility of coming back
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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If it was just a normal marine it isn't worth mentioning. Giant man in SM dex has to be HUGE.
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Burn the Heretic
Kill the mutant
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/13 12:28:33
Subject: so is The Lion the only loyalist primarch that realistically has the possibility of coming back
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Cadia
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raiden wrote:If it was just a normal marine it isn't worth mentioning. Giant man in SM dex has to be HUGE.
I'm sure not even GW knows who the hell he is.
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Savior of Tartarus
Veteran of the assault on Lorn V
Conqueror of Kronus
Lord of the Kaurava system
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/13 14:09:00
Subject: so is The Lion the only loyalist primarch that realistically has the possibility of coming back
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Dakka Veteran
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raiden wrote:If it was just a normal marine it isn't worth mentioning. Giant man in SM dex has to be HUGE.
It was the Necron Codex, not the Marine one
Yeah, it's probably just a plot hook.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/13 14:55:50
Subject: so is The Lion the only loyalist primarch that realistically has the possibility of coming back
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
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Im suprised that no-one has mentioned the two missing primarchs and their legions (most likely they dont have a legion)
I mean everyone has talked about certain primarchs having the possibility of coming back and that others are certainly dead but no-one has mentioned "what if the two unknown primachs were discovered?"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/13 14:57:36
Subject: so is The Lion the only loyalist primarch that realistically has the possibility of coming back
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/13 15:51:57
Subject: so is The Lion the only loyalist primarch that realistically has the possibility of coming back
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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Krieg!!! wrote:Im suprised that no-one has mentioned the two missing primarchs and their legions (most likely they dont have a legion)
I mean everyone has talked about certain primarchs having the possibility of coming back and that others are certainly dead but no-one has mentioned "what if the two unknown primachs were discovered?"
Because they were sanctioned and killed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/13 17:50:13
Subject: so is The Lion the only loyalist primarch that realistically has the possibility of coming back
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Tunneling Trygon
Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland
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Maybe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/13 17:55:18
Subject: so is The Lion the only loyalist primarch that realistically has the possibility of coming back
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
Massachusetts
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It has been all but flat out stated to have been the case. They wouldn't have been stricken from all Imperial records if they were simply missing. So even if they were alive and they did return, it wouldn't be a good thing for the Imperium.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/13 18:05:19
Subject: so is The Lion the only loyalist primarch that realistically has the possibility of coming back
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Krieg!!! wrote:Im suprised that no-one has mentioned the two missing primarchs and their legions (most likely they dont have a legion)
I mean everyone has talked about certain primarchs having the possibility of coming back and that others are certainly dead but no-one has mentioned "what if the two unknown primachs were discovered?"
They are referred to as "The Lost" and "The Purged". They probably aren't in a condition to return.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/13 19:18:28
Subject: so is The Lion the only loyalist primarch that realistically has the possibility of coming back
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Tunneling Trygon
Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland
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We don't know the specifics, is all I'm saying. Even the traitors and heretics weren't stricken from Imperial record, so there's something more to it than "they were bad".
Still, we'll never find out. They could be dead, they could have been killed by the Ultramarines as part of a conspiracy (which the Emperor was in on), they could have had really inglorious deaths (falling down the stairs, etc). Anything is speculation, though, and GW will probably never reveal anything (if there even is anything to reveal; the whole thing feels too much like it was to cover up some accident in fluff-writing, or perhaps a GW writer who has since left had ideas but told no-one).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/13 19:21:48
Subject: so is The Lion the only loyalist primarch that realistically has the possibility of coming back
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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TBH, I think it was to provide players with options for "mystery primarch" that could be either Loyalist or Chaos.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/13 19:22:40
Subject: so is The Lion the only loyalist primarch that realistically has the possibility of coming back
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Psienesis wrote:TBH, I think it was to provide players with options for "mystery primarch" that could be either Loyalist or Chaos.
I have the same impression.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/13 19:43:34
Subject: so is The Lion the only loyalist primarch that realistically has the possibility of coming back
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
Massachusetts
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Frozen Ocean wrote:We don't know the specifics, is all I'm saying. Even the traitors and heretics weren't stricken from Imperial record, so there's something more to it than "they were bad".
Still, we'll never find out. They could be dead, they could have been killed by the Ultramarines as part of a conspiracy (which the Emperor was in on), they could have had really inglorious deaths (falling down the stairs, etc). Anything is speculation, though, and GW will probably never reveal anything (if there even is anything to reveal; the whole thing feels too much like it was to cover up some accident in fluff-writing, or perhaps a GW writer who has since left had ideas but told no-one).
Not necessarily. If you think of it as a checklist, then the stricken from the record fits perfectly. 2 primarchs and their legions did something, possibly different somethings, to anger the Emperor. Emperor has them eradicated, and then stricken from the records. The traitor legions were never destroyed, so they wouldn't have been stricken from the records yet. You don't cross an active target off your list after all.
EDIT: But I understand your point about everything just being speculation anyways, we really don't know what happened to them.
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