Jamie Oliver Defeats Mcdonalds.....WITH SCIENCE!!!!!

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**hotsauceman1**

http://worldtruth.tv/hamburger-chef-jamie-oliver-proves-mcdonalds-burgers-unfit-for-human-consumption/
I dont have much to say really. Other then I doupt it will matter much

Hamburger chef Jamie Oliver has won his long-fought battle against one of the largest fast food chains in the world – McDonalds. After Oliver showed how McDonald’s hamburgers are made, the franchise finally announced that it will change its recipe, and yet there was barely a peep about this in the mainstream, corporate media.

Oliver repeatedly explained to the public, over several years – in documentaries, television shows and interviews – that the fatty parts of beef are “washed” in ammonium hydroxide and used in the filling of the burger. Before this process, according to the presenter, the food is deemed unfit for human consumption. According to the chef and hamburger enthusiast, Jamie Oliver, who has undertaken a war against the fast food industry, “Basically, we’re taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings.”

Besides the low quality of the meat, the ammonium hydroxide is harmful to health. Oliver famously coined this the “the pink slime process.”

“Why would any sensible human being put meat filled with ammonia in the mouths of their children?” Oliver asked.

In one of his colorful demonstrations, Oliver demonstrates to children how nuggets are made. After selecting the best parts of the chicken, the remains (fat, skin and internal organs) are processed for these fried foods.

In reply to all of the bad press this process has received from Oliver, the company Arcos Dorados, the franchise manager for McDonalds in Latin America, said such a procedure is not practiced in their region. The same, it should be noted, applies to the product in Ireland and the UK, where they use meat from local suppliers.

In the United States, however, Burger King and Taco Bell had already abandoned the use of ammonia in their products. The food industry uses ammonium hydroxide as an anti-microbial agent in meats, which has allowed McDonald’s to use otherwise “inedible meat.”

Most disturbing of all is the horrifying fact that because ammonium hydroxide is considered part of the “component in a production procedure” by the USDA, consumers may not know when the chemical is in their food.

On the official website of McDonald’s, the company claims that their meat is cheap because, while serving many people every day, they are able to buy from their suppliers at a lower price, and offer the best quality products. But if “pink slime” was really the “best quality” that McDonalds can muster in the US, then why were they able do better in Latin America and Europe? More to the point, why can they apparently do better now in the United States?

These questions remains unanswered by the franchise which has denied that the decision to change the recipe is related to Jamie Oliver’s campaign. On the site, McDonald’s has admitted that they have abandoned the beef filler from its burger patties.

**Frazzled**

On the positive I haven't had a burger from McD's in a decade, so will continue that trend.

**LordofHats**

And people say that 'well informed consumers would never buying food that can kill them.' Good thing corporations do everything they can to hide as much inconvenient truth as possible.

**Frazzled**

At last, a government purpose we can both agree upon.

**timetowaste85**

Hopefully Wendy's chicken nuggets don't follow this!! I'm not a huge fan of McD's due to consuming quite a bit due to work. This has killed all interest in it.

**Ahtman**

You are all just haters due to the delicious* McRib** being available again for a limited time.

*May not be delicious, experience may vary from patron to patron.

**Not a substitute for real food.

**KingCracker**

Frazzled wrote:
On the positive I haven't had a burger from McD's in a decade, so will continue that trend.

It hasn't been a decade for me, but it's been a few years anyways

**Chongara**

I was told there was going to be science.
I feel betrayed.

**Ma55ter_fett**

I ate one of their inhumanly raised chicken sandwiches a couple months ago... it tasted of poultry depression and tears in the darkness, also anus.

**notprop**

Mmmmmm anus!

It really covers the taste of ammonium hydroxide.

**kronk**

So that's why Big Mac's are so damn tasty!

**Breotan**

notprop wrote:
Mmmmmm anus!

It really covers the taste of ammonium hydroxide.

Don't go knocking the anus. Beaver anus (specifically the castor sacs) is used in Vanilla, strawberry, and raspberry "natural flavor". Oh, and butter rum, too. Lick, lick, lick...

**kronk**

Breotan wrote:
Don't go knocking the anus. Beaver anus (specifically the castor sacs)... Lick, lick, lick...

So.

Many.

Comments.

ARGH!

**Monster Rain**

I don't eat McDonalds because it's healthy or wholesome.

I eat it because it's tasty. Thanks anyway, Chef. Me and my beaver anus burgers will keep on keeping on.

**Desubot**

I feel buying and eating a tub of vanilla icecream now.

**Ouze**

Breotan wrote:
Don't go knocking the anus. Beaver anus (specifically the castor sacs) is used in Vanilla, strawberry, and raspberry "natural flavor". Oh, and butter rum, too. Lick, lick, lick...

You learn the damndest things on Dakka.

**DogofWar1**

If their chicken nuggets change and aren't as good as before, I will be SO FETHING ANGRY!

**Avatar 720**

Jamie Oliver is a gakker. I'm still furious about the Turkey Twizzlers incident.

**Palindrome**

Breotan wrote:
notprop wrote:
Mmmmmm anus!
It really covers the taste of ammonium hydroxide.
Don't go knocking the anus. Beaver anus (specifically the castor sacs) is used in Vanilla, strawberry, and raspberry "natural flavor". Oh, and butter rum, too. Lick, lick, lick...

Surely beavers are quite rare (unless they are farmed) so wouldn't that be an expensive flavouring, more so than simply using real vanillia etc?

**Monster Rain**

Vanilla beans are pretty expensive.

Why don't you do some research on the cost per beaver anus involved in vanilla flavoring and report back to us with your findings? I have an open mind.

**Desubot**

In Europe maybe.

I though they where still quite around in the muricas

**Palindrome**

Monster Rain wrote:

Why don't you do some research on the cost per beaver anus involved in vanilla flavoring and report back to us with your findings? I have an open mind.

The annual industry consumption is very low, around 300 pounds,[13] whereas vanillin is over 2.6 million pounds annually.[14]

Apparently each beaver produces about $7.50 worth of Castoreum so its probably quite a lot more expensive than vanilla pods.

**Monster Rain**

That would depend on how much the beaver itself costs, wouldn't it? You also fail to provide sufficient(read: any) documentation as to the wholesale cost of vanilla pods.

I don't consider your findings conclusive.

**hotsauceman1**

I remember when in middle school I learned that red dye is made of cockroachs ground up. I told some friends and then got immediatly sent to the princibles office.

**Palindrome**

Monster Rain wrote:
That would depend on how much the beaver itself costs, wouldn't it? You also fail to provide sufficient(read: any) documentation as to the wholesale cost of vanilla pods.

I don't consider your findings conclusive.

Vanilla doesn't cost much http://www.vanillatoyou.com/buy-madagascan-vanilla.html and wild animals tend to be fairly expensive given the man hours required to trap/shoot/befriend them.

**Monster Rain**

Fair enough.

Apparently the amount of castoreum consumed is only a fraction of the amount of vanillin used. I think I'll read labels pretty closely from here on out, though. "Vanilla Bean= good", "Natural Vanilla Flavor= Bad".

**Bullockist**

I am also dissapoint with the lack of science, I expected Jamie to be saying things like "Ammonium Nitrate...Wicked , food science.. lovely jubbly and Nutrition is Pukka"

And also" beaver anus...there you go."

**Medium of Death**

I'm disappointed that there's no youtube remix of the kind afforded to our other British chefs.

I think Jamie's heart is in the right place, but it be better if he tackled something like wasted food in the Western World or perhaps child hunger. Maybe a combination of both.

**Dark Apostle 666**

I hate Jamie Oliver.
I dislike his face, I don't like his recipes, I don't like his "holier than thou" shtick about healthy eating, I disapprove of his extra-marital philandering, and I'll be damned before I take dietary advice from a chubby git like him!

In fact, I dislike him so much, that I am going to McDonalds for lunch tomorrow just to spite him!

**Ouze**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
I remember when in middle school I learned that red dye is made of cockroachs ground up. I told some friends and then got immediatly sent to the princibles office.

I too remember when I learned that ground up insects were used to color damn near everything you eat that was red. I got over it though.