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Ive been without power since Sunday (still no estimate on restoration) in the PNW here, but loving the attention this thread is getting.

John, your squad is amazing, I wish I could paint that well that fast.

While I dont know the intimate details, the layout is now coming along at a much faster pace for the rulebook now that some of the other RPG crew are on it!


Alas, I havent been able to get much more character cataloging done, made it through the Field and Air support books, and halfway though "Into the Badlands" when the ice storms smacked the power grid

So I printed me a Hunter:



This is wanted to give DP9 money for the longest time.. FFS, I would have even after being told they didn't want me as a customer!

And a scale shot with the official minis through the ages:

Already posted in your thread but love it! It looks like an old school 3 up test model! Are the arms separate shells so you can modify them to be more blitz and less tactical?

Not yet, unfortunately. From what I read, the designer plans to make the poseable and all, but so far there's only this.

Which is great, OTOH.

I agree! It's definitely got the classic asthetics. I was just looking at the arms/forearms/hands and thinking they look better a bit bigger. Is that the 3d model from reddit a month ago or has he tweaked it/reposted it since?

I don't think he's relased anything else, no. I just seprated the file with the head, arms and lrp so that I could support tem better and hollowed the torso.

I love it.

This file was on reddit?

Veldrain wrote:
I love it.

This file was on reddit?

It still is, as far as I know.

Also, I finished it:

It's only been since 1995 >_>

Nicely done! Did you mask off those areas for the camo or do you have an incredibly steady free hand?

...huh, it's all freehand ^^

Showoff...

So, now I seem to need ideas for decently looking north/south 28mm infantry troopers, in case you know of any suitable ones...

Anvil Industry, no question.

 Albertorius wrote:
So, now I seem to need ideas for decently looking north/south 28mm infantry troopers, in case you know of any suitable ones...

Can you post the examples of what they should ideally look like to illustrate the differences between them? I'm guessing the inspiration will be the classic Ghislain rpg art but I don't have access to my remaining books for a while.

 warboss wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
So, now I seem to need ideas for decently looking north/south 28mm infantry troopers, in case you know of any suitable ones...

Can you post the examples of what they should ideally look like to illustrate the differences between them? I'm guessing the inspiration will be the classic Ghislain rpg art but I don't have access to my remaining books for a while.

In setting, all factions used modular armor systems designed to be added onto the main one:

Northern:


Southern:


Now, that doesn't really look like all that unless you see it better:

Northern:






Southern:






Then of course you have officers and gear pilots...










I bought the "Art of Heavy Gear" books a long time ago and they're invaluable for this kind of stuff.

Thanks! I actually bought the first two art books on drivethrurpg many years ago but lost access to them for some reason (reupload by dp9?); they're in my purchase history but it doesn't let me download them. I've emailed drivethrurpg twice about it but they completely ignored both messages.


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At least for the northern troopers, not-cadians might be the closest match with lots options for poses/loadouts.

 warboss wrote:
Thanks! I actually bought the first two art books on drivethrurpg many years ago but lost access to them for some reason (reupload by dp9?); they're in my purchase history but it doesn't let me download them. I've emailed drivethrurpg twice about it but they completely ignored both messages.


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At least for the northern troopers, not-cadians might be the closest match with lots options for poses/loadouts.

The Cadians, particularly the Karskin, have the advantage of having a very similar gas mask design, yes:



That said, the rest of the helmet is quite a bit different, as the northern helmet has a long "front cap" that makes it very visually distinctive:

True... but it seems like an easy fix in 3d modelling (assuming that is the route you go instead of hunting down physical models). You just elongate an egg shape and bisect it twice (once on each plane) and add it to a cadian helmet. You could add the three holes in the front digitally or with a pin vice manually after printing. It might even do a good enough job of covering up the aquilla on the helmet in case its not a separate shell that can be easily removed. For northern light infantry, there are some 3d models of "winter" cadians from one of the old FW books that have the respirators as well.

As for southern troops, the closest thing that comes to mind readily are the various not-tallarns but you'd have to do a head swap obviously to get the distinctive helmet instead of a the turban and goggles they typically have.

edit: If you look up kasrkin on thingiverse and cults, the "hostile environment" guys show up as well.

Wow I would love to see those designs translated into up to date 32mm plastic.

Ghislain’s HG art is so awesome!

As for stand-ins, take a look at North Star’s upcoming plastic kits for Stargrave.

 Albertorius wrote:

Veldrain wrote:
I love it.

This file was on reddit?

It still is, as far as I know.

Also, I finished it:

It's only been since 1995

Oh man that is a gorgeous piece, consider me 200% jealous

Holy CRAP that's amazing, Albetorius!!! Covergirl Hunter, right there. Like...wow. Speechless.

Great thread keeps getting better.

I've probably mentioned this before, but the Pilum power armor that supposedly exists in universe, any artwork for it?

If anyone can find it, Albertorius can!

 Paint it Pink wrote:
Great thread keeps getting better.

I've probably mentioned this before, but the Pilum power armor that supposedly exists in universe, any artwork for it?

P.I.L.U.M. infantry appeared for the very first time on the Blood Debt pdf. There's never been any kind of artwork released for it, at least that I know about, but taking into account the fact that it is described as "the P.I.L.U.M. Turtleshell" and that it's a PA design, we can very much assume that it probably is a powered variant of Paxton's regular "bug eye" armor series:







(This one depicted is the lightest version).

I am unsure about whether they exist anymore or not, and their window of existence might have been very small.

Did they retcon in the bigger power armor size during the blitz era or was that always a thing? That doesn't look significantly larger than the previous armor and I think the blitz era minis were slightly larger than normal for infantry PILUM.

 warboss wrote:
Did they retcon in the bigger power armor size during the blitz era or was that always a thing? That doesn't look significantly larger than the previous armor and I think the blitz era minis were slightly larger than normal for infantry PILUM.

The latest PRDF infantry I'm aware of is this:




These guys are exactly as big as the rest of the terranovan infantry, but as far as I can tell it's regular infantry.

I've gone and downloaded the latest version of the beta book from DrivethruRPG and there's no mention of the pilum infantry for Paxton, just regular ones.

As to retconnig anything, well, I'm not really sure, and I don't think the Pod is either. Pilum turtleshell always felt very much like a last minute occurrence, and as far as I'm aware it only came to be and has been mentioned on a single supplement (Blood Debt). And the only thing there's on it is this:

P.I.L.U.M. INFANTRY
P.I.L.U.M. Turtleshell represents the latest advances made by Paxton Arms in infantry based combat systems. It is essentially an armored, exo-frame that allows infantry personnel benefit from unparalleled levels of survivability and mobility on the battle field.

So yeah, it's both called a turtleshell (and everyone has those) and an armored exoframe... which really, could mean anything.

For reference, this is the definition of "turtleshell armor" from HG:

TURTLESHELL ARMOR
The last type of personal armor is the "turtleshell". This is the hickname for full suits of antiballistic polymer or composite plates. Turtleshell armor often includes attachment points for respirator masks and radio equipment. Turtleshell plates are light but dame resistant. They are designed for optimum comfort and mobility without compromising too much protection. However, turtleshell still restricts the wearer's movement and is tiring to wear over extended periods of time.

So yeah, personally I'd make pilum (if it still exists) a powered turtleshell, maybe a bit bulkier but not enough to be really that noticeable at the N scale of the miniatures over the regular one. Rules wise they'd just be turtleshells, but the squads would either be more heavily armed (more heavy weapons per squad) or simply be able to shoot heavy weapons without the need of stabilizers (...well, I don't know if that's still a thing on the current rules).

Thanks Albertorius.

Was PILUM's acronym ever stated?

 Paint it Pink wrote:
Thanks Albertorius.

Was PILUM's acronym ever stated?

Not that I'm aware of, no.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Paint it Pink wrote:
Thanks Albertorius.

Was PILUM's acronym ever stated?

Not that I'm aware of, no.

Thank you.

It's a shame the Pod hasn't the drive to do them and expand the range of poses for their other infantry too. It's one of the main reasons I started converting the RAFM Gears to use with 15mm figures.

PILUM

Powered Infantry Light.... Ugmented... Mobility.

Everyone knows spelling is different in the future.