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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/29 03:22:08
Subject: FMC/infantry mixed unit and Leaving Combat Airspace
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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What happens when an FMC (like a Flyrant) leaves combat airspace while it is joined to a unit of infantry (like Tyrant guard)?
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-It is not the strongest of the Tyranids that survive but the ones most adaptive to change. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/29 03:24:48
Subject: FMC/infantry mixed unit and Leaving Combat Airspace
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Well, being that the Tyrant Guard cannot fly, the Flyrant cannot elect to fly (as doing so would break the 2" coherency). Also, the entire unit does not have the authorization to leave the board, so they cannot leave the board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/29 03:47:34
Subject: Re:FMC/infantry mixed unit and Leaving Combat Airspace
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Mulletdude wrote:Well, being that the Tyrant Guard cannot fly, the Flyrant cannot elect to fly (as doing so would break the 2" coherency). Also, the entire unit does not have the authorization to leave the board, so they cannot leave the board.
With a unit of 3 Tyrant Guard and 1 HT I guarantee you I can make a legal swooping move with the Hive Tyrant given proper relative positioning of the unit and end that move in unit coherency. I'm also not convinced coherency is an issue as it is only measured after you move the model and as the final position is off the board i don't see that it has any bearing.
True the Tyrant Guard are not given permission to leave combat airspace but the Flyrant is. Hence the question.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/12/29 03:48:16
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/29 03:55:33
Subject: FMC/infantry mixed unit and Leaving Combat Airspace
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Rampaging Carnifex
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How I would play it:
Tyrant can attach to guard, and be treated as a normal MC. However, due to the fact that a Tyrant can not leave a brood of Guard, I would say that it could not leave the board for any reason until the guard are all dead.
Swoop away if coherency can be maintained, though! I think that would be very situational.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/29 03:59:33
Subject: Re:FMC/infantry mixed unit and Leaving Combat Airspace
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Abandon wrote: Mulletdude wrote:Well, being that the Tyrant Guard cannot fly, the Flyrant cannot elect to fly (as doing so would break the 2" coherency). Also, the entire unit does not have the authorization to leave the board, so they cannot leave the board. With a unit of 3 Tyrant Guard and 1 HT I guarantee you I can make a legal swooping move with the Hive Tyrant given proper relative positioning of the unit and end that move in unit coherency. I'm also not convinced coherency is an issue as it is only measured after you move the model and as the final position is off the board i don't see that it has any bearing. True the Tyrant Guard are not given permission to leave combat airspace but the Flyrant is. Hence the question. If it had mixed profiles like that, how the heck would you shoot at it? Would any hit on the guard force a grounding test? Would the fact that he's a flyer even matter?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/12/29 04:01:18
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/29 04:06:53
Subject: FMC/infantry mixed unit and Leaving Combat Airspace
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Tyrant is given permission to join the guard like an IC would. An IC becomes a member of the unit for all intents and purposes. Show permission for the Guard unit to leave the board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/29 04:12:28
Subject: FMC/infantry mixed unit and Leaving Combat Airspace
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Why? It's a legal move for the FMC and nothing in the unit or IC rules prevent it. Automatically Appended Next Post: Fragile wrote:The Tyrant is given permission to join the guard like an IC would. An IC becomes a member of the unit for all intents and purposes. Show permission for the Guard unit to leave the board.
The guard have not left the board, just the FMC. Acting as an IC it retains its own rules and abilities.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/12/29 04:13:53
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/29 06:08:36
Subject: FMC/infantry mixed unit and Leaving Combat Airspace
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Cosmic Joe
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Except this IC is forbidden from leaving the unit, if he left the board he'd leave the unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/29 07:14:12
Subject: FMC/infantry mixed unit and Leaving Combat Airspace
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Well, I think at the very least, moving off the board is not moving in such a way as to maintain coherency. You cannot make that nice little coherency chain they state as the end result of a legal move.
I think I've just answered my own question. Was actually your first post Mulletdude that mad me realize the obvious, so ty
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