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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 03:37:34
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Battleship Captain
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Ignore the fact that 40k and Fantasy now take place in entirely separate universes, and discuss/answer can the Salamanders exterminate the Skaven?
Scenario 1: the Salamanders Legion at the height of its strength during the Great Crusade (naturally led by Vulkan himself) undertakes the challenge.
Scenario 2: the Salamanders Chapter at full strength handles the task at hand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 03:47:27
Subject: Re:Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
Inside Yvraine
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 04:18:23
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Lolwut?
Here's a simple question to ask in anything. Does one faction have spacecraft with orbital bombardment capabilities while the other lacks anything capable of harming spacecraft? If both answers are yes, the faction with orbital assets will win.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 04:31:53
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Rampaging Carnifex
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The real question is, why, in order to get to the Capital of Naboo, did they have to travel through the planet core?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 05:49:24
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Space Cowboy Cruising Around Olympus Mons
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You would never be able to exterminate the Skaven....they are to numerous, have to many ingenious and destructive weapons and have magic that can turn anything into clanrats and wither away at anything.
Also when I say they are to numerous it says that in the army book/codex but also in a purely game sense they could have nearly 1000 skaven slaves in a 2000 point game....thats right and just take a 15 point engineer hahaha
Even with the salamanders orbital bombardment capabilities they live in giant caverns dug out by millions or rats and spread over the entire world without ever coming to the surface they would still survive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 06:01:24
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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chiefbigredman wrote:You would never be able to exterminate the Skaven....they are to numerous, have to many ingenious and destructive weapons and have magic that can turn anything into clanrats and wither away at anything.
Also when I say they are to numerous it says that in the army book/codex but also in a purely game sense they could have nearly 1000 skaven slaves in a 2000 point game....thats right and just take a 15 point engineer hahaha
Even with the salamanders orbital bombardment capabilities they live in giant caverns dug out by millions or rats and spread over the entire world without ever coming to the surface they would still survive.
The Salamanders fleet should be capable of simply blowing up the planet/cracking it and blowing off its atmosphere. From the death of Nostramo by the Night Lords, we know that you don't need cyclonic torpedoes to blow up a planet. Just a lot of lancers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 06:22:41
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Space Cowboy Cruising Around Olympus Mons
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Wyzilla wrote: chiefbigredman wrote:You would never be able to exterminate the Skaven....they are to numerous, have to many ingenious and destructive weapons and have magic that can turn anything into clanrats and wither away at anything.
Also when I say they are to numerous it says that in the army book/codex but also in a purely game sense they could have nearly 1000 skaven slaves in a 2000 point game....thats right and just take a 15 point engineer hahaha
Even with the salamanders orbital bombardment capabilities they live in giant caverns dug out by millions or rats and spread over the entire world without ever coming to the surface they would still survive.
The Salamanders fleet should be capable of simply blowing up the planet/cracking it and blowing off its atmosphere. From the death of Nostramo by the Night Lords, we know that you don't need cyclonic torpedoes to blow up a planet. Just a lot of lancers.
Blowing up an entire planet from space to obliterate a race of rat things so you don't have to face them = bitchin out
Just joking haha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 06:29:53
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Focused Fire Warrior
New Zealand
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Why the salamanders in particular?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 06:38:51
Subject: Re:Salamanders vs the Skaven
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War Walker Pilot with Withering Fire
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The Emprah would just need to call an Exterminator to perform an Exterminatus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 08:45:07
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Focused Fire Warrior
New Zealand
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Yeah i dont really get this. Am i missing something? Medieval ratpeople versus intergalactic superwarriors with firepower enough to level solar systems. Maybe if you did some scenario where a company was magically whisked back to ye old whfb world and had to face the whole skaven race with a hundred dudes?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 18:53:21
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Rampaging Carnifex
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And limited ammunition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 21:32:12
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Major
Fortress of Solitude
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The fight... would not last very long.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 21:46:44
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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If the Skaven had moved, with Mankind, from the era of Fantasy to the era of 40K (stick with me, here)... they, like the common rat, would be found in almost every environment that Mankind is found in. It would be impossible to eradicate the Skaven without also eradicating Mankind.
There are rats in the walls of Terra...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 22:09:51
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Scenario 3: all the salamanders have their hands tied behind their backs and the skaven all get a 40 second head start to run away. CAN THEY GET THEM ALL?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 22:48:47
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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No they can't. One of those wacky Skaven engineers has invented a salamander repellent. It is super effective!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 00:17:50
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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Aren't the Hrud supposed to be the 40k equivalent of Skaven anyway, wasn't that supposed to be a thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 00:18:02
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Focused Fire Warrior
New Zealand
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Soooo you basically want to use skaven in 40k? Hmm, maybe say globadiers have vortex grenades, see what happens lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 00:38:03
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Badablack wrote:Aren't the Hrud supposed to be the 40k equivalent of Skaven anyway, wasn't that supposed to be a thing.
Except they aren't ratty and don't make warp-fire throwers.
... not a rat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 00:50:43
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Focused Fire Warrior
New Zealand
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I'll be honest, that looks like a walking poo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 00:52:54
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Psienesis wrote: Badablack wrote:Aren't the Hrud supposed to be the 40k equivalent of Skaven anyway, wasn't that supposed to be a thing.
Except they aren't ratty and don't make warp-fire throwers.
... not a rat.
They don't have too look the same to fill the same niche. Not to mention the Hrud are a bit better than the Skaven, with it being nigh impossible to study Hrud.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 02:05:40
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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If it's not ratty, doesn't talk about the "man-man things" and doesn't shoot warp-fire or throw plague-bombs at people, then it's not Skaveny.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 02:08:41
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Fleshound of Khorne
Elkton, MD
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You human-things are silly yes-yes, with your shiny-shiny contraptions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 17:47:14
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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Wyzilla wrote:
Here's a simple question to ask in anything. Does one faction have spacecraft with orbital bombardment capabilities while the other lacks anything capable of harming spacecraft? If both answers are yes, the faction with orbital assets will win.
+1 to both. Is this a serious question?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 18:28:17
Subject: Re:Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Brigadier General
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Even WLCs would have trouble piercing power armour and their flamers will incinerate the tunnels.
Crispy rat for the sallies' lunch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 18:33:20
Subject: Re:Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Missionary On A Mission
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Option #4 Army of Darkness Style.
One (1) Marine is sent back in time with his bolter and 6 mags.
He is free to use what ever means to remove the Skaven (ally with Empire, build a vortex grenade from manure, sticks and oil etc..)
"Trapped in time, surrounded by rat people, low on promethium"
Groovy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 18:41:29
Subject: Re:Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Uhh.... that's like asking if the USA can destroy a population of moles on a remote island. It'll be over so fast it won't be funny.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 18:44:24
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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OP was super hiiiiiiiigh last night
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 18:50:14
Subject: Re:Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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MrFlutterPie wrote:Option #4 Army of Darkness Style.
One (1) Marine is sent back in time with his bolter and 6 mags.
He is free to use what ever means to remove the Skaven (ally with Empire, build a vortex grenade from manure, sticks and oil etc..)
"Trapped in time, surrounded by rat people, low on promethium"
Groovy.
Hell, I'd watch that
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 18:58:42
Subject: Re:Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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TheCustomLime wrote:Uhh.... that's like asking if the USA can destroy a population of moles on a remote island. It'll be over so fast it won't be funny.
Moles don't carry flamethrowers that can cause your body armor to sprout tentacles and strangle you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 22:54:42
Subject: Salamanders vs the Skaven
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Hallowed Canoness
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Hmm.
I'd have to say the Skaven.
Small aquatic lizards are not known for their ability to combat large numbers of technologically active bipeds.
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