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 Deuce11 wrote:

 dalekslayer96 wrote:

 Big Blind Bill wrote:
Point for point, deathwing is a fragile army. Although each model is individually tough, the cost of one guy is nearly as much as whole squads in other armies.

A terminator is on average 2 times tougher than a normal marine, but comes mat 3 times the price.

If the dice don't favour you, and you roll above the average number of ones, you can be tabled very fast.

Which is why some people buy FNP.... ooooohhh...
Looks like the best thing to do for DW is to get some dice designed to never roll ones, and some dice designed to roll normally.

Great, so I pay even more for an extra 6+ save on 5 models... genius! How come I didn't think of that?!

LOLOLOL. That's what the FNP banner is for!!! TERMINATORZ!!!


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canadianguy wrote:
another thought is to take that 10 man squad with belial and take 3 drop pods. the 10 man squad drops in with 2 hf,mm dreads. the last drop pod is empty or uses a 5 man termie squad latter. gives you a huge alpha strike with good antitank and anti horde ie 2 cml, 2 hvy flamers and 2 multi melta. the rest of the army is a couple of 5 man termie squads for backfield objective parking.

Wait. Terminator Squad? You can't Drop Pod those!!! There's a reason why they have DS USR...


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 Deuce11 wrote:
I think the advantage is to be found more so in the Bolster Defenses special rule. Ruins becoming 3+ cover save as well as a mobile PFG is impressive for a model that is 15 points cheaper.

Why? Why use that for DW?

 Deuce11 wrote:

 Big Blind Bill wrote:
Just use the forgeworld rules. Mortis and mortis contemptor dreads already get skyfire and intercept if they did not move in the movement phase.

Yeah that is what i was referring to but i do not want to use the generic legion rules in order to use the dreadnought rules; and you KNOW there are local opponents that will bring up that point.

What?

You're not running it as a 30k thing, because that'd be illegal unless the rest of your army is also based solely out of that book.

Mortis Dreads are a thing in Imperial Armor and therefore usable by Dark Angels. They work exactly like the ones in the HH books to the best of my knowledge. I was about to say the new rules for them aren't out yet and I guess they still aren't but they will be in two days times.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/IMPERIAL_ARMOUR_VOLUME_TWO_SECOND_EDITION.html

Oops messed up my edit vet squad with combis

 SRSFACE wrote:

 Deuce11 wrote:

 Big Blind Bill wrote:
Just use the forgeworld rules. Mortis and mortis contemptor dreads already get skyfire and intercept if they did not move in the movement phase.

Yeah that is what i was referring to but i do not want to use the generic legion rules in order to use the dreadnought rules; and you KNOW there are local opponents that will bring up that point.

What?

You're not running it as a 30k thing, because that'd be illegal unless the rest of your army is also based solely out of that book.

Mortis Dreads are a thing in Imperial Armor and therefore usable by Dark Angels. They work exactly like the ones in the HH books to the best of my knowledge. I was about to say the new rules for them aren't out yet and I guess they still aren't but they will be in two days times.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/IMPERIAL_ARMOUR_VOLUME_TWO_SECOND_EDITION.html

Oh i didn't realize it was in AI. I just knew it from 30K. Thanks for clearing up the confusion!

UPDATE: I updated my list with the Mortis Dreads out of 30K and they are 15points more expensive for the TLAC outfit. An additional benefit over the regular codex dread, besides the incredible interceptor and skyfire is... BS5! YES PLEASE!