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I did, saw it was a 20GB download, decided that cleaning my SSD was to much effort and went back to watching stuff on netflix. No regrets.

I've managed to get through the tutorial without getting stuck in a wall but the game crashed whilst loading the first zone and I was far too put off by the performance issues to reopen the game, even on a rig considerably beefier than my laptop (which is still reasonably good) the game runs like gak.

Though as always beta is beta.

About everyone I asked says its "Bad Online Skyrim". I take this information with equal parts smug "Fething called it fanboys" (Because everytime it was mentioned, a lot of my buddies would fall into the usual "It's gonna be the WoW-Killer"-Rant), and a dissapointed sigh because the lack of Coop was the ONE thing besides the boring combat I didnt like about past Elder Scrolls.

Its especially funny following some of the discussions on Forums, both official and fan-variants. On one side there are those that shoot the Game down as a burning trainwreck going for the nearest cliff, while the other side just parrots the usual "Its just a Beta!". I Allways found that notion very funny, as if the Beta-Status meant that the game could change entirely within a few weeks.

 Bromsy wrote:

 Maelstrom808 wrote:
I could do without the MMO. A simple multiplayer co-op option on the next elder scrolls though....pleasepleaseplease

Yeah. That would be awesome.

Agreed. They need and instance type deal where 4 or 5 buds can go fight done epic bad ass monsters and get cool loot. Not an MMO.

I had a good bash on it, found a couple of bugs (redguard area took a age to load!!) but other than that it feels like a MMO without the feel of a MMO.I played WOW back in the day bit of SWTOR and dabbled here and there but i quite enjoyed it and it ran (just) on my piss poor PC.

I wasn't impressed with it, I'll wait for wildstar

Stuebi wrote:
About everyone I asked says its "Bad Online Skyrim". I take this information with equal parts smug "Fething called it fanboys" (Because everytime it was mentioned, a lot of my buddies would fall into the usual "It's gonna be the WoW-Killer"-Rant), and a dissapointed sigh because the lack of Coop was the ONE thing besides the boring combat I didnt like about past Elder Scrolls.

Its especially funny following some of the discussions on Forums, both official and fan-variants. On one side there are those that shoot the Game down as a burning trainwreck going for the nearest cliff, while the other side just parrots the usual "Its just a Beta!". I Allways found that notion very funny, as if the Beta-Status meant that the game could change entirely within a few weeks.

The performance issues a lot of people had are something that can be fixed entirely between beta and release. The fact that the game is incredibly dull cannot.

 Corpsesarefun wrote:

Stuebi wrote:
About everyone I asked says its "Bad Online Skyrim". I take this information with equal parts smug "Fething called it fanboys" (Because everytime it was mentioned, a lot of my buddies would fall into the usual "It's gonna be the WoW-Killer"-Rant), and a dissapointed sigh because the lack of Coop was the ONE thing besides the boring combat I didnt like about past Elder Scrolls.

Its especially funny following some of the discussions on Forums, both official and fan-variants. On one side there are those that shoot the Game down as a burning trainwreck going for the nearest cliff, while the other side just parrots the usual "Its just a Beta!". I Allways found that notion very funny, as if the Beta-Status meant that the game could change entirely within a few weeks.

The performance issues a lot of people had are something that can be fixed entirely between beta and release. The fact that the game is incredibly dull cannot.

Pretty much this yes.

TESO is actually a perfect example of "Lets take "Brand X" and make a game/movie/book out of it, the name alone will sell it.". The lack of innovation speaks volumes about the thought process that went into this whole thing.

one thing to remember in most all beta's for mmo's ... is the beta is never ran on the final hardware that the game server would be on.. it is normally a smaller, less powerful system. so that in it's self can cause more lag ... and then add into it the fact that they may not yet be paying for the extra bandwidth that will be needed when the game goes live... and that takes care of some of the issues ...

either way, after another weekend it worked better but still not quite there ... questing was a bit better .. combat was still meh...

From what I have seen of it its a hell of a systems hog needing much higher specs than skyrim inself.

Didnt play it myself but what I have heard about it was not overly impressive. Certainly not worth the subscription cost.

I would considering paying the subscription for FF14 if I could as I really enjoyed the first month of it. But cant afford it atm.

I give it 8/10 its a good game. I am playing every day and love it.

Combat is like most elder scrolls. The way you handle skills and every class can do damage and heal is a nice break from the holy trinity. Sure a templar has natural healing abilities but any class can equip a healing staff and get access to the spells. And how every class can wear every armour is amazing. Gone are the day of mages in dresses. I grouped with a healer in heavy armour. And he was a beast!

Crafting in ESO is utterly amazing. If you buy gear from vendors.... you bare doing it wrong. Gathering the needed materials for everything does not take forever. And enchanting is a mini game in it self.

To end my rant or praise of the game, it is far from perfect but this may be the game for a lot of folks. The only gripes I have with the game so far is the cost of a Mount.

PS the character creation process is the best! If you look like someone else. You just missed 1/2 of the fun. And the game has a slider for 'prostierer dimensions'. Need I say more?


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From what I have seen of it its a hell of a systems hog needing much higher specs than skyrim inself.

Didnt play it myself but what I have heard about it was not overly impressive. Certainly not worth the subscription cost.

I would considering paying the subscription for FF14 if I could as I really enjoyed the first month of it. But cant afford it atm.

I played FFXIV, got to end game and that game goes limp noodle. That game system specs is nuts compared to ESO to run it in pretty mode. But like everything on life don't go off what other people say is good or bad. If you don't try for your self you will never know. Like me with Tau in 5th edition, horrible army but I stuffed it out and look at Tau now

I watched the misses play it but didnt try it myself.

Never got to the end game of ff14. Her laptop handled ff14 much better than ESO so I think ESO requires higher specs than ff14.

I played ff14 on the ps3 personally.

lynxstrife wrote:
I give it 8/10 its a good game. I am playing every day and love it.

Combat is like most elder scrolls. The way you handle skills and every class can do damage and heal is a nice break from the holy trinity. Sure a templar has natural healing abilities but any class can equip a healing staff and get access to the spells. And how every class can wear every armour is amazing. Gone are the day of mages in dresses. I grouped with a healer in heavy armour. And he was a beast!

Crafting in ESO is utterly amazing. If you buy gear from vendors.... you bare doing it wrong. Gathering the needed materials for everything does not take forever. And enchanting is a mini game in it self.

To end my rant or praise of the game, it is far from perfect but this may be the game for a lot of folks. The only gripes I have with the game so far is the cost of a Mount.

PS the character creation process is the best! If you look like someone else. You just missed 1/2 of the fun. And the game has a slider for 'prostierer dimensions'. Need I say more?

I'm really not sure if you're being serious... The combat and the character creation were two of the worst parts of the game.

Too each their own. Like I said everyone has different tastes, what I like you may not. The character creation is one of the most in depth there is. Unless you like just going thru stock options that is. Combat is just like elder scrolls, sometimes a little laggy but that is the nature of such things. But click moist to attack, hold for bigger attack other mouse click to block. Works like a charm to me.

The only MMOs I've played where the character creation really mattered were superhero ones. Other than that, you are just going to be worried about getting cool looking gear.

Making characters in Champions for example would take me half an hour or more.

The character creator was pretty standard imo. You really shouldn't spend too long in one. Granted the more options the better.

The real looks should come from drops and crafting. Whether thats true or not I dunno.

I digress though, ESO is not something I will buy into. I have Skyrim for my Elder Scroll needs, even if it is a single player game. Would rather have had a multiplayer Skyrim(max 3/4 players) instead.

After playing this beta weekend Im no longer interested in buying the ESO, interest was already falling with the subscription amount.
The immersion is just not on the same level with all those people running around, for example encountering over 3 people murdering a single bear or a few ruins crawling with dozens of people. Its mostly plain boring with wonky combat so far, not something that can easily be fixed this late in development. The character creation was nice, but not all that special.

I would also prefer that they work on something like a co-op Skyrim instead

What might well for Skyrim, would be a VS and/or Coop Arena.

For balancing, instead of using your Single Player character, you select a preset class (though physical appearence could be customisable) and players are pitted against each other. Or they can team up and be pitted against waves of enemies. After every round, you gain levels and perks, and get to purchase new equipment.

An Arena environment would be self contained, so there wouldn't be a huge amount of development work involved.

Subscription? Sorry, my interest has evaporated. Really, more MMO's need to follow the GW2 model.

It's a shame, the game does look decent, but really, dammit Bethesda, just give us a TES game with co/op already. That's all I want. Not an MMO made by another company that will probably crash considering the MMO market's pretty iffy right now.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
What might well for Skyrim, would be a VS and/or Coop Arena.

For balancing, instead of using your Single Player character, you select a preset class (though physical appearence could be customisable) and players are pitted against each other. Or they can team up and be pitted against waves of enemies. After every round, you gain levels and perks, and get to purchase new equipment.

Nah, I would prefer it being purely your Single Player Character but matched to similar level and gear. That's what made the the Oblivion Arena good, you had to take your best gear or risk dying. Maybe just have the battle ramient being the only thing you must have on. The rest is fair game. I want to become arena champion with my character, not some preset character.

 johnscott10 wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
What might well for Skyrim, would be a VS and/or Coop Arena.

For balancing, instead of using your Single Player character, you select a preset class (though physical appearence could be customisable) and players are pitted against each other. Or they can team up and be pitted against waves of enemies. After every round, you gain levels and perks, and get to purchase new equipment.

Nah, I would prefer it being purely your Single Player Character but matched to similar level and gear. That's what made the the Oblivion Arena good, you had to take your best gear or risk dying. Maybe just have the battle ramient being the only thing you must have on. The rest is fair game. I want to become arena champion with my character, not some preset character.

Plus it isn't a TES game unless there's some hilarious enchanting/potions singularity model that allows you to become a god via a hilarious feedback loop.

The more I read/review this the more disappointed I get.
Will probably give it a miss which is a shame since I absolutely loved the TES series.

I adore TES games but TES online was terrible.

Ive read these reviews of heard, was quite disappointed, but when my launcher finally finishes I can check for my self


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Ive read these reviews of heard, was quite disappointed, but when my launcher finally finishes I can check for my self

speaking of which, the launcher is soooo weird, started out on 1.5bm/s then when on 30% jumped to 20mb/s

If I honestly wasn't so invested in GW2, I'd probably give TES a serious try.

As it is, I enjoy the no subscription, and have really come to like a lot of the little creature comforts in GW2 ( I love the account wallet.....).

We'll see how things shape up in the future for both games.

I've played a lot of MMOs, and this is one of the worst.

Don't really know how it stacks up against actual Elder Scrolls games, since I haven't played any other than a little Morrowind, but from what I've read form other people, this is not just a terrible MMO, but also a terrible Elder Scrolls Game.

i see all this comparason to GW2, GW2 is nothing more than a glorified Diablo 3. It is not a true MMO in that every area of the game is full of players.

So got my invite, played a touch this morning. Jury is still out. My computer is just a little choppy with it, so I'm focusing more on the ES feel to it, then game performance.

So far I haven't gotten that feel at all. Maybe seeing 500 people running around the starting area is what is responsible for that.

I played it. It was fun. The graphics are cool. It's no Skyrim. Skyrim is baddass.

Well they have fixed the flaw that prevented my client working in the last beta. I have played it a little bit (I'm lvl 6) and its quite a lot better than I was expecting.

Its still obviously an MMO it doesn't have a lot of the more tedious elements of traditional MMO gameplay although it is still reliant upon an attack bar. Its like a strange Morrowind/WoW hybrid.

Its defiantely not worth the ridiculous price that they are asking but I will probably give it a proper go when it becomes F2P.