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After this episode I think they are less likely to pull a power of love reversal. I think they are setting it up for Mary Sue Poots to pull the trigger on Ward.


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Per the listings on http://titantv.com/ for the next two week's episodes

Spoiler:
Next episode: "Nothing Personal"

Agent Maria Hill shows up to give Coulson and his team a sign that there is still hope and at least one person left to trust as S.H.I.E.L.D. is being destroyed around them.

Also, the cast listing shows Deathlok and Glenn Talbot will appear.

The following week: "Ragtag"

Hydra's secrets and Agent Ward's betrayal against Coulson, his team and S.H.I.E.L.D. are uncovered when the team must go undercover on a mission that will affect everyone.

The cast listing there shows Garrett, Deathlok, Flower Dress Woman, and Ian Quinn will appear.

Only one episode left to go after that and we already have confirmation that Fury will be in it.

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http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/04/28/first-two-minutes-of-this-weeks-agents-of-shield-has-a-giant-sized-name-drop/



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ABC and Marvel sent out the first two minutes of tomorrow night’s Agents of SHIELD. In the clip we get to see Agent Maria Hill complaining about all the questions she’s having to answer to who I am guessing is Pepper Potts. During the rant she drops the name of The Man-Thing.

Is this just a throw away line or are there plans for the walking muck-monster? The character was the basis for a straight to cable/dvd movie back in 2005 that included Alex O’Laughlin from Hawaii 5-0. Also one of the soldiers effected by Extremis in Iron Man 3 was named Ellen Brandt, the same name as the ex-wife and villain of Ted Sallis.

It may mean nothing at all… but hey, who knows.




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Hill continues to be as cool as ice, completely not giving a feth about anything.

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Not a bad episode tonight. Not as strong as I was hoping, but still alright.

I wasn't expecting Coulson to see what he saw at the end. Loved his typical Coulson reaction though

How did May get that....I missed that part?

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Spoiler:
she dug up coulson's grave and there was a flash drive in his casket

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I'm kind if surprised they revealed Ward's secret identity to everyone so quickly. I guess it's better than dragging it out.

 
   
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Well there are only two more episodes after this.

And I'm now 99.99% convinced of a "power of love" redemption for Ward. After what Deathlok did to him he's basically in Lando "This deal is getting worse all the time" mode, and he seems completely deluded with the belief that his feelings for Skye override his horrible actions. Once he realises hit little Garrett cares for him that'll be it.

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Damn, I just started watching and powered through. But I accidently got spoilered about Grant Ward. I promised myself no spoilers this time :(

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Maybe the Halloween episode of Season 2 will have Man-thing pop up. I thought the actor who plays Ward is doing a great job. I'm hoping Deathlok will get more scarred and start looking like the comic bit by bit over time.

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I'm thinking that the team won't welcome him back, but if he does turn from Hydra he will do so to save Skye and will either die in the process or go wandering around on his own search for redemption and to find himself. I hope he just dies.

I found it really stupid that Skye saved his life, unless she erased the drive or something when she said she left a surprise. He's a cold blooded murderer who deserves to die. And letting him die wouldn't make her a murderer.

I thought it was stupid that no one noticed the bus parked in LA. How easy is it for a plane without a flight plan to land and be unnoticed, especially a SHIELD plane.

Attacking Talbot was stupid. Hill wouldn't be able to stand behind "Employee of Stark Enterprises" as an excuse.

As cheesy as the Lola escape was, I did enjoy it.

Overall, while I felt like there were big gaps in logic for the episode, I did like it more than the first half of the season and am really looking forward to see where they go from here.

After the end of the episode I could see it moving in an A-Team direction where next season they're on the run from Talbot while getting tips from Maria Hill about fugitives from the Fridge or scraps of Hydra that need to be dealt with. All the while Hydra in the background would be building up towards Age of Ultron.

I like that Triplett is basically part of the team now, but I have a feeling that he's going to die before the end of the season, at which time Fitz will finally get over his bad attitude towards him.


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Titan TV has the synopsis for the season finale

Spoiler:
"Beginning of the End"
New, 5/13/2014, Drama, Sci-fi, Adaptation, Fantasy, Action

Coulson and his team are pulling out all the stops and putting it all on the line in order to stop Garret and the forces of HYDRA no matter the cost.

Credits: Bill Paxton (Actor), Clark Gregg (Actor), J. August Richards (Actor), Brett Dalton (Actor), David Conrad (Actor), Ming Nah Wen (Actor), Ruth Negga (Actor), Iain de Caestecker (Actor), B.J. Britt (Actor), Chloe Bennet (Actor), Patton Oswalt (Actor), Elizabeth Henstridge (Actor)


So the season finale will have Garrett, Deathlok, Flower Dress Woman, and Ian Quinn in addition to a return appearance from Agent Koenig (flashback or LMD?) and there are plenty of reports about Nick Fury showing up too.

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Ya, it looks like the power of love reversal actually affected Skye instead....

 
   
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 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Ya, it looks like the power of love reversal actually affected Skye instead....


I don't think so, I think she just doesn't have the killer instinct like Ward does.
   
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Is HYDRA still a nazi orginization? I mean I know Red Skull didnt exactly want to be a Nazi, but he still held its beliefs.
Im having trouble trying to figure out what exactly HYDRA is now. Grant doesnt seem like a Nazi, and they used Mike Peterson now.

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I think they were, because it suited their purposes, but I don't think modern HYDRA are Nazis any more. I think they've grown out of it.

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Would it be massively incorrect to say that Hydra was still a fascist organisation, but not a specifically Nazi one?
   
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 Compel wrote:
Would it be massively incorrect to say that Hydra was still a fascist organisation, but not a specifically Nazi one?
It would be incorrect because it was the Italians, not the Germans, who were fascist.


 
   
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 Breotan wrote:
 Compel wrote:
Would it be massively incorrect to say that Hydra was still a fascist organisation, but not a specifically Nazi one?
It would be incorrect because it was the Italians, not the Germans, who were fascist.



Fascism isn't limited to WWII Italians in the same way as Nazism is limited to Germany during that time period. Also, fascism tends to be tied to nationalism and I'd say Hydra is a multi-national organization, so fascism doesn't seem like it would be the best description either.

Let's just say that it is a ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world.


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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Uuuuuuughh, jeebus come on, just decide whether Ward's supposed to be a baddie or not already. The whole shtick with the dog, and the sob story, and the ambiguity over whether it was him or Garrett that finally offed the dog, then the stupid cargo pod thing *sigh*

This sub-plot is actually making it difficult to enjoy the other bits, and that's a shame because some of the writing is getting pretty good(I actually LOL'd at the "large file transfer" skit). Ach well, season finale next week, and we all know that the end of season cliffhanger will have something to do with Skye's "monstrous" origins, so hopefully that means they won't try and drag the "is he/isn't he" crap into season 2.

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Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.

I want the Ward storyline to be done and dusted by the time the credits roll next Wednesday. I don't want Ward to suddenly be good again - giving into his "weakness" (oh spare me... ) - I don't want him sacrificing himself, I just want him either a permanant antagonist, or dead.

But the show is giving every indication that they don't have the spine to follow through with any of this.

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Ya, and they better not. He shot two cops in the previous episode and killed many shield agents in cold blood and worst of all it looks like he shot his own dog. I will think less of the whole team if they just decide to forgive him for all that.

As for Hydra, ya they're pretty much Nazis who think they're better than Nazis.

 
   
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Agents of SHIELD has been renewed for Season 2. With it comes the 1950's-set Agent Carter.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I want the Ward storyline to be done and dusted by the time the credits roll next Wednesday. I don't want Ward to suddenly be good again - giving into his "weakness" (oh spare me... ) - I don't want him sacrificing himself, I just want him either a permanant antagonist, or dead.

But the show is giving every indication that they don't have the spine to follow through with any of this.

Please..... please go the path that angel went. Please kill the bastard..... Or you know make him a badass that fights to redeem himself and then potentially dies in a thrilling awesome way.

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I say no redemtion. Have Sky pull the bullet.
Ohhh, I was hearing rumors Coulson might be Mr. Marvel, What is SKye turns out to be Ms. Marvel?

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There would be a riot.

Carol Danvers needs to be part of the MCU, not someone pretending to be here.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't want him sacrificing himself...
Unfortunately, this is what I'm thinking will happen.


 
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
There would be a riot.

Carol Danvers needs to be part of the MCU, not someone pretending to be here.

Well we dont know Skys Real Name.

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It's not Carol Danvers.

Besides, assuming she isn't 100% alien, she originated in China.

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my hope is that sky just casually puts a few rounds in him and walks away, and then show the reaction from the rest of the team
   
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As long as he dies or becomes a full time recurring antagonist I'm ok with it. I don't care if he dies sacrificing himself for something good or redemption as long as he dies. Because there is zero believability that after killing several high ranking/trusted Shield agents they'd let that crazy back in the fold.

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Well the finale has aired, and I thought it was great, and I'm very happy the show didn't redeem Ward. We saw him losing his convictions towards Garrett, but he didn't turn good at the last second, or sacrifice himself to save Skye or any of the other horrific things they could have done that would have utterly ruined this series. Instead May kicks the ever-loving gak out of him, and he gets arrested. I wanted May to kill him, but I can live with that outcome. I'm worried about Fitz though. Poured his heart out, still in the Friend Zone, and now in a coma. Dude's having a bad day.

If anyone couldn't guess that Fury would save Fitzsimmons then they weren't paying attention. Why draw attention towards a frequency that no one's looking for? Because of course Fury is monitoring that frequency. As far as Fury goes, his presence was nice. He got a lot of fun lines, and I liked how the story played out (with one exception, which I'll get to in a sec). I especially loved how he brought out Coulson's Revenge (sorry, I call the Destroyer gun that because of this). That was nice. Killing Garrett was an interesting move as well, and the way it was done was fun because it was a nice way to subvert expectations. Not sure where the Skye's Father thing is going, but I guess we'll have to wait 'til next Season. Thankfully the writers appear to have learnt their lessons from this Season so I don't think we'll be waiting 17+ episodes for that ball to get rolling. Also good to see Raina and Quinn making it away. The show needs more reoccurring villains, which was a problem this show had for most of its run, so them being out there (with the Gravitonium no less) is a good thing.

And hooray for Koenig's brother! And for Mike getting free.


Of course, now I have two concerns:

1. Coulson is the new director of SHIELD.
2. Fury specifically saying "I won't be back for a long while".

The effects of this are twofold:

1. It disconnects the show from the rest of the MCU. SHIELD now only exists in the world of the show because SHIELD stopped existing after The Winter Soldier. That means there's no SHIELD in any upcoming MCU movies, meaning this show continues to skirt around the edges of the MCU rather than being directly involved with it.
2. The opposite side of that coin is that the movies no longer have SHIELD, and nothing from the TV show will ever influence or cross-over into the movies.

This makes Agents of SHIELD into high-level fan-fiction, and that's a problem.


Also, IGN has a (spoiler-filled) interview with Jeff Bell and Jeph Loeb.

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