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Weekly rules releases? Interesting. Wonder if they'll nclude FAQs for content, or at least an "ask about a rule" section?

Just saw this interesting flip through & review of the new White Dwarf Visions and WD weekly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cqFbTa5qOI

 Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
Just saw this interesting flip through & review of the new White Dwarf Visions and WD weekly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cqFbTa5qOI

Yes, it's being talked about in the Dakka Discussions thread too, but it's certainly news!




The weekly publication looks fine / similar to the previous WD, just with less pages. The montly publication... wow . So bad!

 RiTides wrote:

 Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
Just saw this interesting flip through & review of the new White Dwarf Visions and WD weekly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cqFbTa5qOI

Yes, it's being talked about in the Dakka Discussions thread too, but it's certainly news!

The weekly publication looks fine / similar to the previous WD, just with less pages. The montly publication... wow . So bad!

Oop - sorry missed that thread. I'll take my incredulous rage-filled comments over there. ;-) Thanks.

Wow they've really missed the mark with Visions, and here I was hoping it would be good (well, better, at least)
That thing really needs more text, I mean, sure, it's meant to be a picture/photo publication, but for Kit Bash and Parade Ground I'd expect more text, and that battle report, wow. I didn't think they could do worse but they've proved me wrong again...

Well, Warhammer Visions looks terrible.

I can just browse Dakka's Battle Reports section, P&M Blogs and Showcase for much for value. That thing literally doesn't have a single redeeming value I can see, especially as I don't like 'Eavy Metal's often gaudy paintjobs.

That Visions is really bloody terrible. They should sack that gakker of an editor they've got.

Right, so, lets see how difficult it is to cancel my subscription then - and get any money back from it.

So, basically, it's an Argos catalogue that costs £7.50. Plus, you can't even make out half the photographs, because they're double page spreads and you miss the middle.

I cannot fathom why anyone with beyond a rudimentary understanding of the internet would buy their Visions publication.

Through the internet I can...
Go to GW's own web site to see high quality pictures of last month's releases
Visit innumerable forums and blogs to access high quality kit bash and hobby articles that actually go in depth into the process of assembly as well as providing the opportunity to ask questions
Visit CMON to see award winning model entries

So why would I pay over 10 dollars to GW to do the same in a magazine format?

To be honest I think it is the opposite.

I cant understand why people would want to buy the weekly White Dwarf....hear me out.

The Visions at least comes only once a month and has enough photos to keep you entertained when relaxing with it on your sofa. Seeing some 200+ pages of quality photographs is nice.


The 30 page WD on the other hand is a joke. What are its contents? New releases! If I am following White Dwarf Daily and on top of that, go to GW's site, I can see the pics of their new kits + rudimentary info there already. Why do I need a magazine for that? There's also no batrep at all.

I wish I could just buy a Blanchitsu compilation...

That's basically what "The Emperors X" series is, to be honest.

Did gw just deside to pay the guy who does the back covers of white dwarf a few extra quid a week to do a few more photos and bung a few brief discriptions into google translate to bulk out the rather sparse text?

Seriously can't see any benefit to buying this each month it adds absolutely nothing to the hobby for the gaming veteran at least the weekly wd looks to have some value although not having a subscription service for it seems like a shot in the foot.

At this point in my gaming career I've got no use for White Dwarf Visions,

but It's just the sort of thing that I'd have picked up and enjoyed earlier on so I certainly feel like it has a place

it's the weekly where they've got to step up their game

I am actually rather optimistic about the new magazines, hopefully they'll have a lot more useful content.

Open Letter to Yakface and all Dakka Dakka Mods


January 31st 2014

Dear Yakface/Mods

In light of GW's launch of its new Warhammer Visions and White Dwarf weekly publications, I respectfully ask please could you allow a window of opportunity in the forums for all dakka dakka members to vent their frustration at the death of a once great magazine.

There would have to be no restrictions on foul and/or abusive language, and no penalty/sanctions against any member for doing so. I suggest a window of say, 1 hour (to be decided by your good self or the mods.)

I make this request for the good of the forum. I fear that many members may be overcome by mental anguish and/or instability, and I would argue that it would be better in the long run for forum members to vent their frustration in this way, rather than see individual actions, such as a commando raid against GW HQ to kidnap Tom Kirby (you are aware there are many dakka members with considerable military experience.)


Because quite frankly, the new GW magazines are the biggest pile of brown stuff I have ever seen, and I've been watching the English Football/soccer team for years, so I'm well qualified to identify brown stuff!

Yours sincerely,

Do I not Like That

 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
So why would I pay over 10 dollars to GW to do the same in a magazine format?

Because once this silly "Internet" fad is over, you'll be craving dark photographs and three-language text!

White Dwarf weekly I like and will likely be buying it for upcoming releases that I’m interested in. But Visions is a joke!!!

It’s a pure manifestation of everything hobbyists hated about the monthly White Dwarf! Worst they’re lazyness of it all and how images are used over and over again through cropping or different angles!
It makes sense they wouldn’t want the buyer to look at the content before purchase by sealing the magazine up.

Nice one GW and heres me thinking you’d start taking action to avoid the iceburg your company was going to hit after the financial alarm was sounded this month!!!

for us UK peeps, WH Smiths have had monthly for last 4 days and are selling it at old 5.50 price.. I wont be buying again, 99% pictures and what little text there is is bulked up by the fact its translated several times under each photo..

very poor GW... very poor.. its time to put the monthly mag out of its misery...

Can't comment on weekly until tomorrow...

 Regnak wrote:
for us UK peeps, WH Smiths have had monthly for last 4 days and are selling it at old 5.50 price.. I wont be buying again, 99% pictures and what little text there is is bulked up by the fact its translated several times under each photo..

very poor GW... very poor.. its time to put the monthly mag out of its misery...

Can't comment on weekly until tomorrow...

I'm reading the weekly now. So far it just seems like a slimmed down version of last months White Dwarf. To be honest, I don't actually mind it. It's definitely worth the £2.30 you pay (on first inspection) The paint guide is more for the beginners etc but I think that's what they're aiming towards, seeing Golden Daemon painted minis is horrifically off-putting



I've put it as a spoiler in case people don't actually want to know

Derp, I've just scrolled up and saw the video. i don't feel so special anymore. well, special in the sense that I should be sat licking windows

Does it explain what the Liber chaotica/something like this is in the new release section ?

 reds8n wrote:
Does it explain what the Liber chaotica/something like this is in the new release section ?

Index Chaotica...?

It has a Khorne demon on, a bloodletter I think

it says

"Index Chaotica is a series of articles delving into the dark lore being the creatures, servants and weapons of Chaos. ID: Volume 1 collets all eight of the previously published issues into one blasphemous (digital) tome. Within it you will find artwork and background describing Plague Marines, Noise Marines The Eye of Terror, Rubricae, Possessed, The Garden of Nurgle, Defilers, and juggernauts of khorne. ID: V1 is available in ePub and Mobi formats"

if that's any help?

That's the one.


Just a collection of some of the digital odds and sods then.

Ah well.


Many thanks.

I honestly cannot see GW able to deviate from the course they have taken.

Anything that would be of use would be spun off as a "micro-transaction / publication" to be bought as an epub which leaves precious little content for the mags they are flogging.

I cannot see it being much different than the original content other than split between the two and even more filler.

What I would like to see in the new mags but is extremely unlikely:

- Khornversion Khorner: Featured cool ways of combining GW kits to create an alternate version of their models.

- Secret Sauce: Some interesting technique or recipe for painting or assembling that produces an awesome result.

- Armies Collide: Like a tale of two gamers but the army selection, build, paint and battle report with the added twist that it is to be blind, no knowing what the other guy has selected.

- Fan Fare: Dedicate a space for submitted publication from customers/fans of anything to do with the hobby that is cool.

- Forge Apprentice: Tips and tricks and possibly step by step build of various forge world kits and best practices with resin.

- Head Space: Pick interesting topic, pick two GW "veterans" to talk it out / debate. The monologue style is getting a little old... verbal cage match would be ideal.

- The Cultist: Some article of interesting use of GW IP: Cosplay, the giant radio controlled land-raider anything that is not the "traditional" application of the hobby.

- Rulez of Law: Pick the flavor of the month (week?) some inflammatory grey zone in the rules, outline the scenario and clarify, play it out as intended. Designed to kill certain issues dead.

- The Eye: Have a regular cartoon strip. Call up that guy from "Turn Signals on a Land Raider" (TSOALR).

- Fly the Colors: Focus on one faction and give detail on markings and colors and 30k vs 40k changes.

I think all of these would generate interest and could be spread out over a ton of issues with little thought.

Here is to hoping any of this happens.

People complained a lot about the state of White Dwarf the past few years, but it was brilliant compared to Warhammer Visions which appears to be flipping useless. The White Dwarf Weekly still looks to have at least some useful hobby content, but being so small and model range specific I'll only pick it up when an issue is of particular interest. Warhammer Visions doesn't appear to be useful or worthwhile at all. And for the first time in more than 20 years, I won't have a GW magazine subscription.

 Talizvar wrote:

Spoiler:

I honestly cannot see GW able to deviate from the course they have taken.

Anything that would be of use would be spun off as a "micro-transaction / publication" to be bought as an epub which leaves precious little content for the mags they are flogging.

I cannot see it being much different than the original content other than split between the two and even more filler.

What I would like to see in the new mags but is extremely unlikely:

- Khornversion Khorner: Featured cool ways of combining GW kits to create an alternate version of their models.

- Secret Sauce: Some interesting technique or recipe for painting or assembling that produces an awesome result.

- Armies Collide: Like a tale of two gamers but the army selection, build, paint and battle report with the added twist that it is to be blind, no knowing what the other guy has selected.

- Fan Fare: Dedicate a space for submitted publication from customers/fans of anything to do with the hobby that is cool.

- Forge Apprentice: Tips and tricks and possibly step by step build of various forge world kits and best practices with resin.

- Head Space: Pick interesting topic, pick two GW "veterans" to talk it out / debate. The monologue style is getting a little old... verbal cage match would be ideal.

- The Cultist: Some article of interesting use of GW IP: Cosplay, the giant radio controlled land-raider anything that is not the "traditional" application of the hobby.

- Rulez of Law: Pick the flavor of the month (week?) some inflammatory grey zone in the rules, outline the scenario and clarify, play it out as intended. Designed to kill certain issues dead.

- The Eye: Have a regular cartoon strip. Call up that guy from "Turn Signals on a Land Raider" (TSOALR).

- Fly the Colors: Focus on one faction and give detail on markings and colors and 30k vs 40k changes.

I think all of these would generate interest and could be spread out over a ton of issues with little thought.

Here is to hoping any of this happens.

 Talizvar wrote:
I honestly cannot see GW able to deviate from the course they have taken.

Anything that would be of use would be spun off as a "micro-transaction / publication" to be bought as an epub which leaves precious little content for the mags they are flogging.

I cannot see it being much different than the original content other than split between the two and even more filler.

What I would like to see in the new mags but is extremely unlikely:

- Khornversion Khorner: Featured cool ways of combining GW kits to create an alternate version of their models.

- Secret Sauce: Some interesting technique or recipe for painting or assembling that produces an awesome result.

- Armies Collide: Like a tale of two gamers but the army selection, build, paint and battle report with the added twist that it is to be blind, no knowing what the other guy has selected.

- Fan Fare: Dedicate a space for submitted publication from customers/fans of anything to do with the hobby that is cool.

- Forge Apprentice: Tips and tricks and possibly step by step build of various forge world kits and best practices with resin.

- Head Space: Pick interesting topic, pick two GW "veterans" to talk it out / debate. The monologue style is getting a little old... verbal cage match would be ideal.

- The Cultist: Some article of interesting use of GW IP: Cosplay, the giant radio controlled land-raider anything that is not the "traditional" application of the hobby.

- Rulez of Law: Pick the flavor of the month (week?) some inflammatory grey zone in the rules, outline the scenario and clarify, play it out as intended. Designed to kill certain issues dead.

- The Eye: Have a regular cartoon strip. Call up that guy from "Turn Signals on a Land Raider" (TSOALR).

- Fly the Colors: Focus on one faction and give detail on markings and colors and 30k vs 40k changes.

I think all of these would generate interest and could be spread out over a ton of issues with little thought.

Here is to hoping any of this happens.

Why can't this be real

So when are you starting your online fanzine? I'm in...

Tim

 Talizvar wrote:
I honestly cannot see GW able to deviate from the course they have taken.

Anything that would be of use would be spun off as a "micro-transaction / publication" to be bought as an epub which leaves precious little content for the mags they are flogging.

I cannot see it being much different than the original content other than split between the two and even more filler.

What I would like to see in the new mags but is extremely unlikely:

- Khornversion Khorner: Featured cool ways of combining GW kits to create an alternate version of their models.

- Secret Sauce: Some interesting technique or recipe for painting or assembling that produces an awesome result.

- Armies Collide: Like a tale of two gamers but the army selection, build, paint and battle report with the added twist that it is to be blind, no knowing what the other guy has selected.

- Fan Fare: Dedicate a space for submitted publication from customers/fans of anything to do with the hobby that is cool.

- Forge Apprentice: Tips and tricks and possibly step by step build of various forge world kits and best practices with resin.

- Head Space: Pick interesting topic, pick two GW "veterans" to talk it out / debate. The monologue style is getting a little old... verbal cage match would be ideal.

- The Cultist: Some article of interesting use of GW IP: Cosplay, the giant radio controlled land-raider anything that is not the "traditional" application of the hobby.

- Rulez of Law: Pick the flavor of the month (week?) some inflammatory grey zone in the rules, outline the scenario and clarify, play it out as intended. Designed to kill certain issues dead.

- The Eye: Have a regular cartoon strip. Call up that guy from "Turn Signals on a Land Raider" (TSOALR).

- Fly the Colors: Focus on one faction and give detail on markings and colors and 30k vs 40k changes.

I think all of these would generate interest and could be spread out over a ton of issues with little thought.

Here is to hoping any of this happens.

You are all very kind.

I really am only putting a name and detail to things I have seen in the past and had the thought "glad I picked this up!".

The main reason to go to Dakka is to get new ideas, some excitement in getting the imagination going. Hearing about others who "get" what is special about an immersive fantasy world and being able to play in it in multiple forms of media. GW is still not really focusing on that objective.

I have only two answers to me starting up a fanzine:
1) 2 kids and a wife.
2) GW IP lawyers.

I happily donate the ideas to the community and have more... if anyone from GW is reading this: steal as you see fit, I will sign whatever is needed.

2 sets of rules in one weekly white dwarf? Now that's interesting...