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Terrible return on the Genestealer part of that investment you'd have been better off with 20 Termagants in there. Unlucky.

 Iechine wrote:

I scalped one of mine and shaved down a Trygon headplate for that look.

Now that's a what i call a good head swap. Nice one Lechine.

This has just given me the idea to put a Mawloc head with a bit of greenstuff on the carapace as the head to my Riptide for my predator themed Tau. With the release of the Riptide I put my Tau down till they get sensibly balanced, however I do love the model. Can't wait till they get rebalanced.

For my Flyrants, I've been running 2 older metal models with Deamon / Dragon wings that I have pinned and magnetized to them.

I recently got ahold of a proper plastic Flyrant. I'm eyeing those wings, and I would love to magnetise them for storage, but they are a big bigger, and at an angle that is going to cause more torque. Has anyone had good success magnetizing Plastic Flyrant wings?

I just glued mine, they would not be an easy magnetise although for me nothing is.


I'm wondering about Haywire Hive Guard. They are still worth their points in durability, and 3 Blasts is much better than three shots. Would probably do 2 HP a turn. I think they obviously aren't as good at Skimmer popping, but we dont have such a weak vs them, Flyrants are very good at the role, same story with flyers. Impaler Cannon is by no means a bad option but I think I might start paying the extra 15 pts per squad for the Haywire weapon. They will likely do 2 HP a turn, multiplied by the 2-3 squads I run in some lists. It also let's them rampage GEQ. Each squad is 10 pts cheaper than an eGrubs TFex though, and that should be the point of reference I believe, providing very similar support and durability. It's a trade off of the armor save for what I believe, will be more damage. Going to test them out and get a feel for returns, but i don't think they are at all bad.

 SHUPPET wrote:
I just glued mine, they would not be an easy magnetise although for me nothing is.


I'm wondering about Haywire Hive Guard. They are still worth their points in durability, and 3 Blasts is much better than three shots. Would probably do 2 HP a turn. I think they obviously aren't as good at Skimmer popping, but we dont have such a weak vs them, Flyrants are very good at the role, same story with flyers. Impaler Cannon is by no means a bad option but I think I might start paying the extra 15 pts per squad for the Haywire weapon. They will likely do 2 HP a turn, multiplied by the 2-3 squads I run in some lists. It also let's them rampage GEQ. Each squad is 10 pts cheaper than an eGrubs TFex though, and that should be the point of reference I believe, providing very similar support and durability. It's a trade off of the armor save for what I believe, will be more damage. Going to test them out and get a feel for returns, but i don't think they are at all bad.

I've been looking at the same thing. The last game I played my opponent's single land raider was causing me some issues (though it was pretty much the only thing he had remaining at the end of turn 4). I had 3 psykers with warp lance, none of which actually ever generated the 2 warp charges (even though I was throwing 5 dice for each lance) or managed to hit. The small blasts from the shock cannons would be great for putting haywire hits on a land raider...

Anything AV14-13 it didn't quite kill would likely actually be hurt enough to die to one successful smash, which is something we have a lot of in Nid armies. I wouldn't use them in a standard Dakkafex/Living Artillery brigade, but they seem to be the perfect compliment to Stealers and anything swarmy, who only really struggle vs heavy AV. HG in general also provide one of the cheapest and largest T6 screen in the army very efficiently.


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Whether or not you choose to use them for that ofc, just an option some games and a good way to claim 2+ Stealer saves.

So with the 7th edition now fully in swing. What's the concensus on the crone/harpy? In my local meta fliers are popping up more and more. Making it worth while to include a crone or 2 even with the nerf to VS. With haywire missiles and the drool cannon for pounding tau in gunlines crones still seem viable. Not sure on the harpy seems like it could be useful, but can it compete with other gun platforms we have available?

Backlash wrote:
So with the 7th edition now fully in swing. What's the concensus on the crone/harpy? In my local meta fliers are popping up more and more. Making it worth while to include a crone or 2 even with the nerf to VS. With haywire missiles and the drool cannon for pounding tau in gunlines crones still seem viable. Not sure on the harpy seems like it could be useful, but can it compete with other gun platforms we have available?

I think that the Crone is putting out only 2/3 of the damage it did in 7th, but it is 3 times as survivable. It is still a solid unit, but not a panacea.

The Harpy on the other hand is bad. S8 vs S6 vector strike is huge. The Spore Bomb is great against blobs of infantry, but nobody runs blobs of infantry. The TL HVC used to be good when it had a chance to pop vehicles. Now that all you can do is glance them, it is not good. STC is a little better. But once again, it is best against blobs of infantry, and nobody runs blobs of infantry. And the biggest flaw of the Harpy is that everything it does can be done better by Dakkafexes or Acid Tfexes or Biovores, and done better and cheaper.

The Dakka Flyrant is still our best anti-air option. But Crone is clearly our second.

I havent used my two Crones since 7th came out, let alone my Harpy. Their role was oddly picked up by Adrenal Gland Carnifexes.

tag8833 wrote:
For my Flyrants, I've been running 2 older metal models with Deamon / Dragon wings that I have pinned and magnetized to them.

I recently got ahold of a proper plastic Flyrant. I'm eyeing those wings, and I would love to magnetise them for storage, but they are a big bigger, and at an angle that is going to cause more torque. Has anyone had good success magnetizing Plastic Flyrant wings?

Magnet with a pin for positioning works perfectly.

i've magnetized my flyrant completely; its' not hard to do.

that mawlock/flryant conversion was sweet. gorgeous army.

as folks have stated, crones went from the be-all tool in the box to just being good. think of them as slightly more mobile tfexes with the added bonus that they'll eat other FMC up.

i've only gotten a couple of games in w/ harpies; i run them with HVC, on opposite ends of the board to ensure i have a flank shot on something; with an eye for stripping HP off of AV13+. jury is still out for me on them.

rigeld2 wrote:

tag8833 wrote:
For my Flyrants, I've been running 2 older metal models with Deamon / Dragon wings that I have pinned and magnetized to them.

I recently got ahold of a proper plastic Flyrant. I'm eyeing those wings, and I would love to magnetise them for storage, but they are a big bigger, and at an angle that is going to cause more torque. Has anyone had good success magnetizing Plastic Flyrant wings?

Magnet with a pin for positioning works perfectly.

Does the Pin deal with all of the Torque? I usually use 5 mm round magnets 2mm think for arms of MC's. They can hold a devourer on, but won't do much for large wings at that angle. The wings would just tilt downward and detach the magnet. I pinned my other flyrant wings by drilling for a pin downward, and the Pins hold the torque. The main purpose of the magnet is to keep the pin from coming out, but on the Metal models there is alot of structure that I can drill into. I sank the Pins 1/2 an inch deep. On a plastic model, there is nothing but a thin layer for pins.

I magnetized my Crone wings by using multiple magnets. There isn't as much place for more than 1 on the flyrant.

There's plenty of depth for pins on the new plastic Tyrant.
The magnets I use hold the wing on just fine - the pin makes the wing not spin. I'd show what I mean, but my models are in storage while I try to sell my house.

Played my game vs Eldar this Saturday and The 2500 point list I ran was pretty amazing. Crushed the Eldar with little to no problem.

I will be posting the battle report soon (in the batrep forum)


Thoughts on the new Dima. This thing is beast. It is slow but the upside it is not that hard to hide 25% or more behind carnifex's or a warrior brood. This thing, once in combat, crushed anything it looked at. It almost felt like having the old swarmlord (just a brutal beast in cc). Before one fell (I brought 2) it had killed 3 wraith lords, and a wraith knight, the other one managed to kill a Prism, Avatar, and a squad of wraith guard with D cannons. I was more than pleased with how they performed and will probably include at least one (if not 2) in every list I run.

tag8833 wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:

tag8833 wrote:
For my Flyrants, I've been running 2 older metal models with Deamon / Dragon wings that I have pinned and magnetized to them.

I recently got ahold of a proper plastic Flyrant. I'm eyeing those wings, and I would love to magnetise them for storage, but they are a big bigger, and at an angle that is going to cause more torque. Has anyone had good success magnetizing Plastic Flyrant wings?

Magnet with a pin for positioning works perfectly.

Does the Pin deal with all of the Torque? I usually use 5 mm round magnets 2mm think for arms of MC's. They can hold a devourer on, but won't do much for large wings at that angle. The wings would just tilt downward and detach the magnet. I pinned my other flyrant wings by drilling for a pin downward, and the Pins hold the torque. The main purpose of the magnet is to keep the pin from coming out, but on the Metal models there is alot of structure that I can drill into. I sank the Pins 1/2 an inch deep. On a plastic model, there is nothing but a thin layer for pins.

I magnetized my Crone wings by using multiple magnets. There isn't as much place for more than 1 on the flyrant.

My two Flyrants are the plastic kind and magnetized. Single magnets, but I built up their arm pits with green stuff as I went for weirder angles on the wings.

Thaddeus Fransisco, his kinda sticks out more for a normal pose:





Brutus is more menacing (maybe just in my head):





I can do close-ups if anyone wants

 foto69man wrote:

tag8833 wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:

tag8833 wrote:
For my Flyrants, I've been running 2 older metal models with Deamon / Dragon wings that I have pinned and magnetized to them.

I recently got ahold of a proper plastic Flyrant. I'm eyeing those wings, and I would love to magnetise them for storage, but they are a big bigger, and at an angle that is going to cause more torque. Has anyone had good success magnetizing Plastic Flyrant wings?

Magnet with a pin for positioning works perfectly.

Does the Pin deal with all of the Torque? I usually use 5 mm round magnets 2mm think for arms of MC's. They can hold a devourer on, but won't do much for large wings at that angle. The wings would just tilt downward and detach the magnet. I pinned my other flyrant wings by drilling for a pin downward, and the Pins hold the torque. The main purpose of the magnet is to keep the pin from coming out, but on the Metal models there is alot of structure that I can drill into. I sank the Pins 1/2 an inch deep. On a plastic model, there is nothing but a thin layer for pins.

I magnetized my Crone wings by using multiple magnets. There isn't as much place for more than 1 on the flyrant.

My two Flyrants are the plastic kind and magnetized. Single magnets, but I built up their arm pits with green stuff as I went for weirder angles on the wings.

Thaddeus Fransisco, his kinda sticks out more for a normal pose:





Brutus is more menacing (maybe just in my head):





I can do close-ups if anyone wants

Dude! Very nice!

 foto69man wrote:
My two Flyrants are the plastic kind and magnetized. Single magnets, but I built up their arm pits with green stuff as I went for weirder angles on the wings.

I can do close-ups if anyone wants

It looks like you used really big magnets. Like 8 mm. Then you had to green stuff sculpt around them to hide them. Is that about right?

When they get bumped on the table top, how secure are they?

tag8833 wrote:

 foto69man wrote:
My two Flyrants are the plastic kind and magnetized. Single magnets, but I built up their arm pits with green stuff as I went for weirder angles on the wings.

I can do close-ups if anyone wants

It looks like you used really big magnets. Like 8 mm. Then you had to green stuff sculpt around them to hide them. Is that about right?

When they get bumped on the table top, how secure are they?

Nope, 4.75mm magnets. I just picked in my head how I wanted them to look and used the magnets/green stuff to get them there and not look odd. Makes them look more bulky, like they actually fly a lot...or lift lol. They are pretty bottom heavy, so getting bumped doesn't move them much, and the greenstuff armpits tends to hold the wings in place.

More pictures to show.









Burtus still has a long way to go before I'm happy with how he looks. Then have to copy that to the whole hive...

@pinecone , having built a Harridan, and someone who can magentize how hard would you say it would be to magnetise the wings on it?

@foto69man
You have a very similar color scheme to your nids as mine- bleached bone chitin with a scorched brown carapace.

I'm not sure of the size of my magnets, but I didn't feel the need to use a pin- the wings stay on fairly tight to my magnetyrant. They definately aren't bigger than the arm socket.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
@foto69man
You have a very similar color scheme to your nids as mine- bleached bone chitin with a scorched brown carapace.

I'm not sure of the size of my magnets, but I didn't feel the need to use a pin- the wings stay on fairly tight to my magnetyrant. They definately aren't bigger than the arm socket.

Thanks! I was going for an ice/ash world scheme...but with the distinct bug like splotches on their carapace. What really terrifys me though, is trying to do this scheme and make it look halfway decent on my Harridan.

Spoilered for size, but more of the painted family

 foto69man wrote:

tag8833 wrote:

 foto69man wrote:
My two Flyrants are the plastic kind and magnetized. Single magnets, but I built up their arm pits with green stuff as I went for weirder angles on the wings.

I can do close-ups if anyone wants

It looks like you used really big magnets. Like 8 mm. Then you had to green stuff sculpt around them to hide them. Is that about right?

When they get bumped on the table top, how secure are they?

Nope, 4.75mm magnets. I just picked in my head how I wanted them to look and used the magnets/green stuff to get them there and not look odd. Makes them look more bulky, like they actually fly a lot...or lift lol. They are pretty bottom heavy, so getting bumped doesn't move them much, and the greenstuff armpits tends to hold the wings in place.

I've got a 5mm and a 3mm on each of my Crone wings. They hold fine, but when they get bumped on the table top they tend to fall off, especially if the are bumped at an upward angle. They have good downward holding thanks to the way I modeled them, but pull them upward, and they torque and the magnets lose hold. I played a guy last week who knocked my Crone wings off 15-20 times. I've decided to do some aggressive modeling work on them to up those magnets to 7 MM so they hold on better. Either that or add a 3rd Magnet to each wing.

Playing a local 1500 pts tourney on Sunday. Nids are getting the FU and are not allowed to ally, so Im stuck with one force org.

Flyrant w/Electro, devs
Flyrant w/Electro, devs

Zoanthrope
Venomthrope

Ripper w/DS
Ripper w/DS
Ripper w/DS
Ripper w/DS

2x Carnifex w/Devourers
2x Carnifex w/Devourers
Mawloc

I've gotta finish these two kids (detail and bases) and paint up the rippers that I just got in the mail for the event.







Im debating getting a Crone at the expense of a fex, but for the most part its a straightforward Devourer list.

Eldercaveman wrote:
@pinecone , having built a Harridan, and someone who can magentize how hard would you say it would be to magnetise the wings on it?

It looks like a big model, I used pins on the Tyrants, so I'd do the same for something that big, I'd want to break it down for transport, so I'd want it to be easy...say 1/4 inch? (3cm??? sorry, american )

Oops not very clear, magnet and a pin...maybe two if you're paranoid.

I gave some thought to magnetizing my Harridan's wings....and then I picked up the wings. SO HEAVY. Although the angle is slightly helpful since they're angled up a bit, it would still certainly need to be pinned. You could do a combination of a pin and a magnet and that would work pretty well. I just decided to bite the bullet and pin and glue the sucker. Thankfully my FLGS is completely fine with me keeping it there.....whose location shall remain a secret in the event that there are those with larsony in their hearts

Here is a few things i have just finished. I currently have 35,000 points of Tyranids and am re-painting all of them. Next project will be Tervigons ..

Those are some awesome looking models !

Gray already knows how I feel about his Nids, but goddamn I can't say it enough - that is a dope colour scheme. Might just be that it appeals to me personally in a lot of different ways, but regardless that's gotta be some of my favourite Nids ever.

+1 for Shuppet and Dozer lol.