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 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:
Finished Book 2 of The Beast Arises this week, really enjoyed it, seems like:

Spoiler:

There is only one IF left, there were three more but the Mechanicum killed them when they tried to wake them from that self healing stasis that Marines can go into when grievously injured. Unless there is more IF hiding on the Ork Moon then they'll be rebuilding with help from other chapters as they couldn't even recover gene seed from the fallen IF and this is set before Terra held gene seed banks if I remember correctly.

Spoiler:

That is pretty dumb since IF and all of their successors can't even go into that self-healing stasis since they lack the Sus-an Membrane. My God, GW, this is one of the defining traits of the frickin' Imperial Fists. What's next, are you going to have them spit acid too?

I don't know how though and I think they made a bit of a doozy here, whoops!

Indeed.


Certain losses haven't happened yet.

 Pilau Rice wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:
Finished Book 2 of The Beast Arises this week, really enjoyed it, seems like:

Spoiler:

There is only one IF left, there were three more but the Mechanicum killed them when they tried to wake them from that self healing stasis that Marines can go into when grievously injured. Unless there is more IF hiding on the Ork Moon then they'll be rebuilding with help from other chapters as they couldn't even recover gene seed from the fallen IF and this is set before Terra held gene seed banks if I remember correctly.

Spoiler:

That is pretty dumb since IF and all of their successors can't even go into that self-healing stasis since they lack the Sus-an Membrane. My God, GW, this is one of the defining traits of the frickin' Imperial Fists. What's next, are you going to have them spit acid too?

Spoiler:

Unless this action is what somehow leads to the Fists and its successors from losing this ability

I don't know how though and I think they made a bit of a doozy here, whoops!

 Haighus wrote:

Spoiler:

Were those 4 Marines onboard the Phalanx? If not, then some more definitely survived, because IIRC the Phalanx was involved in the battle with the Chromes and the Phalanx has survived to the 41st Millennium, so it has somehow escaped destruction. Also, the Imperial Fists are known for their high attrition rates and ability to recover from losses, so they will probably recover from this relatively quick by Space Marine standards. I thought the genestocks on Terra existed from the beginning of the Great Crusade, so there would be those to use in rebuilding. Combined with the Imperial Fists' massive recruitment base, and the eventual reappearance of the Phalanx, that explains their ability to bounce back.

Edit:.

This is the strangest thread if you don't click on the boxes.

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

Spoiler:

Were those 4 Marines onboard the Phalanx? If not, then some more definitely survived, because IIRC the Phalanx was involved in the battle with the Chromes and the Phalanx has survived to the 41st Millennium, so it has somehow escaped destruction. Also, the Imperial Fists are known for their high attrition rates and ability to recover from losses, so they will probably recover from this relatively quick by Space Marine standards. I thought the genestocks on Terra existed from the beginning of the Great Crusade, so there would be those to use in rebuilding. Combined with the Imperial Fists' massive recruitment base, and the eventual reappearance of the Phalanx, that explains their ability to bounce back.

Spoiler:

The book is very clear, no other Marines on the planet from the detailed survey performed by the Mechanicum. Obviously they could be hiding in a time bubble or some other Maguffin but at present only one survives.

There were only three Marines found on the planet, all in statis. The forth teleported to the ship when the mechanicum removed the three marines who were in statis from what was left the planet, this is a bit is sucky deus ex machina as he was stuck mid teleport because of those three marines (makes little sense to me). If he had gone on the ship straight away he'd have died from the rad levels on the ship.

Edit:

Spoiler:

I've had a quick look and I can't find the source, its in one of the IA books, it talks about certain disasters happening that required Terra to put in place a proper gene bank for the Chapters. It would make sense that this is one of those disasters

.

So after all these years and countless books, the series still hasn't gotten to the really juicy stuff, the Siege of Terra?

 Moopy wrote:
This is the strangest thread if you don't click on the boxes.

Hahah
aye
And here I am still waiting for my copy to arrive !!

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
So after all these years and countless books, the series still hasn't gotten to the really juicy stuff, the Siege of Terra?

Nope, I am enjoying them really fleshing out the story myself !

 Haighus wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

Spoiler:

Were those 4 Marines onboard the Phalanx? If not, then some more definitely survived, because IIRC the Phalanx was involved in the battle with the Chromes and the Phalanx has survived to the 41st Millennium, so it has somehow escaped destruction. Also, the Imperial Fists are known for their high attrition rates and ability to recover from losses, so they will probably recover from this relatively quick by Space Marine standards. I thought the genestocks on Terra existed from the beginning of the Great Crusade, so there would be those to use in rebuilding. Combined with the Imperial Fists' massive recruitment base, and the eventual reappearance of the Phalanx, that explains their ability to bounce back.

Spoiler:

The book is very clear, no other Marines on the planet from the detailed survey performed by the Mechanicum. Obviously they could be hiding in a time bubble or some other Maguffin but at present only one survives.

There were only three Marines found on the planet, all in statis. The forth teleported to the ship when the mechanicum removed the three marines who were in statis from what was left the planet, this is a bit is sucky deus ex machina as he was stuck mid teleport because of those three marines (makes little sense to me). If he had gone on the ship straight away he'd have died from the rad levels on the ship.

Spoiler:

Yes, I understand that from the Imperium's perspective at the moment, there are just 4 Marine survivors, 1 after the error in waking 3 of them. The important distinction is that all of them were found on the planet though, not aboard the Phalanx in orbit or something. That means there is almost certainly some more Marine survivors, because the earlier plot summaries for the I am Slaughter book stated that the Phalanx was in the battle, and the Phalanx survives right into the eve of the 42nd Millennium. Which means that the Phalanx has somehow survived the Ork attack, and it must be carrying at least some Imperial Fist survivors to be directed away from the battle. When it reappears remains to be determined though. The Imperium presumably considers the ship destroyed at this point however. It is worth noting the Phalanx carries much of the Imperial Fists' genestock.

Edit:

Spoiler:

I've had a quick look and I can't find the source, its in one of the IA books, it talks about certain disasters happening that required Terra to put in place a proper gene bank for the Chapters. It would make sense that this is one of those disasters

.

Spoiler:

Hmm, that is odd, because the FW HH books are very clear on there being gene banks on Terra (which is why there is still traitor-Legion geneseed being held by the Imperium). Perhaps the stocks were strengthened in such a way as to improve the resilience, or maybe the loyalist gene banks from the Great Crusade were totally plundered for the Second Founding.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
So after all these years and countless books, the series still hasn't gotten to the really juicy stuff, the Siege of Terra?

Not only is that correct, but I'm not even sure that we're 'halfway there' yet!

(Be that in the story itself OR in terms of how many books we've got left to go - especially when you consider that the Siege of Terra will be...what?...at least a trilogy on to itself?)

Ugh. Wake me up when the series becomes interesting again.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Ugh. Wake me up when the series becomes interesting again.

What makes you think you will enjoy the later, known parts of the story as opposed to the unknown parts of the story ?
Just wondering really, Plenty of people say that they will be interested again when they reach Terra and to me that seems like they are not interested in the story at all, just the conclusion.

Im not as interested in the finale as I am the run up to it, it seems like the less interesting part of the story from my point of view, being that we already know what happens.

I'm more interested in the stuff that comes *after*, like The Scourging.

But I'm with you Rayvon, I'm still interested in the run up to The Siege, and The Siege.

I'm just not all that interested in trying to keep track of BL's publishing schedule or their Limited Collected Shenanigans.

Mind, all limited releases have been or will be released to hoi polloi over time. Nine times out of ten it's well worth the wait for it to appear in a cheaper format or as part of the much loathed anthology books.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Ugh. Wake me up when the series becomes interesting again.

Pharos is probably that point.

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

Spoiler:

Were those 4 Marines onboard the Phalanx? If not, then some more definitely survived, because IIRC the Phalanx was involved in the battle with the Chromes and the Phalanx has survived to the 41st Millennium, so it has somehow escaped destruction. Also, the Imperial Fists are known for their high attrition rates and ability to recover from losses, so they will probably recover from this relatively quick by Space Marine standards. I thought the genestocks on Terra existed from the beginning of the Great Crusade, so there would be those to use in rebuilding. Combined with the Imperial Fists' massive recruitment base, and the eventual reappearance of the Phalanx, that explains their ability to bounce back.

Spoiler:

The book is very clear, no other Marines on the planet from the detailed survey performed by the Mechanicum. Obviously they could be hiding in a time bubble or some other Maguffin but at present only one survives.

There were only three Marines found on the planet, all in statis. The forth teleported to the ship when the mechanicum removed the three marines who were in statis from what was left the planet, this is a bit is sucky deus ex machina as he was stuck mid teleport because of those three marines (makes little sense to me). If he had gone on the ship straight away he'd have died from the rad levels on the ship.

Spoiler:

Yes, I understand that from the Imperium's perspective at the moment, there are just 4 Marine survivors, 1 after the error in waking 3 of them. The important distinction is that all of them were found on the planet though, not aboard the Phalanx in orbit or something. That means there is almost certainly some more Marine survivors, because the earlier plot summaries for the I am Slaughter book stated that the Phalanx was in the battle, and the Phalanx survives right into the eve of the 42nd Millennium. Which means that the Phalanx has somehow survived the Ork attack, and it must be carrying at least some Imperial Fist survivors to be directed away from the battle. When it reappears remains to be determined though. The Imperium presumably considers the ship destroyed at this point however. It is worth noting the Phalanx carries much of the Imperial Fists' genestock.

Edit:

Spoiler:

I've had a quick look and I can't find the source, its in one of the IA books, it talks about certain disasters happening that required Terra to put in place a proper gene bank for the Chapters. It would make sense that this is one of those disasters

.

Spoiler:

Hmm, that is odd, because the FW HH books are very clear on there being gene banks on Terra (which is why there is still traitor-Legion geneseed being held by the Imperium). Perhaps the stocks were strengthened in such a way as to improve the resilience, or maybe the loyalist gene banks from the Great Crusade were totally plundered for the Second Founding.

Spoiler:

No it was very clear that the forth was found on the ship, he was stuck half way from teleporting from the planet to the ship by the 3 marines in statis. It was very clear on this point as if he'd teleported straight to the ship he'd have been overwhelmed by long term rad poisoning. The first book was also very clear that the entire chapter including the wall brothers from Terra was in this battle, there are no more IF anywhere else at this point in these books. Personally I think a few will turn up on the Ork Moon as its sustained some major damage with no battle to cause that damage yet covered.

My guess with the pre HH gene seed is that the traitor seed was mostly destroyed after the final battle on Terra and the loyalist seed was used to restock the legions after the HH losses. Then the gene seed bank was not replenished properly. Obviously I'm guessing here.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/hh-novs/hh-cover-art-collection-hb.html

The Horus Heresy Cover Art Collection

Only 1,000 copies available

More than 75 covers from the Horus Heresy series, presented in a sequence charting the narrative from its origins to its climax.

READ IT BECAUSE
It's a showcase of Neil Roberts' fantastic artwork for the Horus Heresy series, allowing you to experience every detail of these stunning pieces as never before.

Those bastards..

I pity those who would buy them.

 Haighus wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

Spoiler:

Were those 4 Marines onboard the Phalanx? If not, then some more definitely survived, because IIRC the Phalanx was involved in the battle with the Chromes and the Phalanx has survived to the 41st Millennium, so it has somehow escaped destruction. Also, the Imperial Fists are known for their high attrition rates and ability to recover from losses, so they will probably recover from this relatively quick by Space Marine standards. I thought the genestocks on Terra existed from the beginning of the Great Crusade, so there would be those to use in rebuilding. Combined with the Imperial Fists' massive recruitment base, and the eventual reappearance of the Phalanx, that explains their ability to bounce back.

Spoiler:

The book is very clear, no other Marines on the planet from the detailed survey performed by the Mechanicum. Obviously they could be hiding in a time bubble or some other Maguffin but at present only one survives.

There were only three Marines found on the planet, all in statis. The forth teleported to the ship when the mechanicum removed the three marines who were in statis from what was left the planet, this is a bit is sucky deus ex machina as he was stuck mid teleport because of those three marines (makes little sense to me). If he had gone on the ship straight away he'd have died from the rad levels on the ship.

Spoiler:

Yes, I understand that from the Imperium's perspective at the moment, there are just 4 Marine survivors, 1 after the error in waking 3 of them. The important distinction is that all of them were found on the planet though, not aboard the Phalanx in orbit or something. That means there is almost certainly some more Marine survivors, because the earlier plot summaries for the I am Slaughter book stated that the Phalanx was in the battle, and the Phalanx survives right into the eve of the 42nd Millennium. Which means that the Phalanx has somehow survived the Ork attack, and it must be carrying at least some Imperial Fist survivors to be directed away from the battle. When it reappears remains to be determined though. The Imperium presumably considers the ship destroyed at this point however. It is worth noting the Phalanx carries much of the Imperial Fists' genestock.

Edit:

Spoiler:

I've had a quick look and I can't find the source, its in one of the IA books, it talks about certain disasters happening that required Terra to put in place a proper gene bank for the Chapters. It would make sense that this is one of those disasters

.

Spoiler:

Hmm, that is odd, because the FW HH books are very clear on there being gene banks on Terra (which is why there is still traitor-Legion geneseed being held by the Imperium). Perhaps the stocks were strengthened in such a way as to improve the resilience, or maybe the loyalist gene banks from the Great Crusade were totally plundered for the Second Founding.

Spoiler:

No it was very clear that the forth was found on the ship, he was stuck half way from teleporting from the planet to the ship by the 3 marines in statis. It was very clear on this point as if he'd teleported straight to the ship he'd have been overwhelmed by long term rad poisoning. The first book was also very clear that the entire chapter including the wall brothers from Terra was in this battle, there are no more IF anywhere else at this point in these books. Personally I think a few will turn up on the Ork Moon as its sustained some major damage with no battle to cause that damage yet covered.

My guess with the pre HH gene seed is that the traitor seed was mostly destroyed after the final battle on Terra and the loyalist seed was used to restock the legions after the HH losses. Then the gene seed bank was not replenished properly. Obviously I'm guessing here.

Spoiler:

Ahh, they have reclaimed the Phalanx then? Just heavily irradiated. Or is it another ship you are referring to? That clears things up somewhat.

Checking the book its a different ship.

More than 75 covers from the Horus Heresy series, presented in a sequence charting the narrative from its origins to its climax.

Does that mean all of the remaining books in the HH series have a cover in this anthology? If so the reading list has Deathfire as book 32, so we are less than half way through. Not all books have an official number as I'm guessing they will be stuck in anthologies being too small on their own.

Chances are they'll also include the novella, graphic novel and audio drrrrama covers as well.

 Looky Likey wrote:
Checking the book its a different ship.

Interesting, so it is currently AWOL.

Free story!
Yep, you read that right – the first part in a new Warhammer Age of Sigmar series is now available to download for abso-flipping-lutely nothing!
Vengeance Eternal sees the Stormcasts of the Celestial Vindicators travel into the Realm of Beasts. Not only do we get our first chance to witness this brutal realm, but we get one of our first looks at a savage new greenskin tribe that inhabits the area, and has been kicking Chaos butt since before it was cool.
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 Kesher wrote:
Looks like something BIG is coming for all those Heresy fans out there!

Via Scanner 1-19-2016 http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?29325-New-Horus-Heresy-Novel[i]

I wonder how many of those stories were already collected in print vs previously only the super duper limited novellas or short audio dramas. One reason (among many broader BL issues) that stopped me buying the short story collections in paperback was that I kept getting repeat stories over and over. I'd get a half dozen in a book and only after buying realize that I'd already read/owned a third of the book.

On a positive note, I had very little expectations going in but I was pleasantly surprised by the Silver Skulls: Portents novel. I'd read some of the author's previous works without being impressed but she did a particularly good job this time. The plot is a very refreshing slow burner that actually takes the time to build up the story and background of the various characters before jumping into 20-30 pages of bolter porn like so many BL authors/books do. No worries though as there is still plenty of action in the second half of the book but it was quite nice to not be wading knee deep in grimdark gore and spent bolter casings only a few pages in.

 reds8n wrote:

Free story!
Yep, you read that right – the first part in a new Warhammer Age of Sigmar series is now available to download for abso-flipping-lutely nothing!
Vengeance Eternal sees the Stormcasts of the Celestial Vindicators travel into the Realm of Beasts. Not only do we get our first chance to witness this brutal realm, but we get one of our first looks at a savage new greenskin tribe that inhabits the area, and has been kicking Chaos butt since before it was cool.
Download it for free now:
http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/vengeance-eternal-ebook.html
And if you enjoy the story (which you will, 'cos it's awesome) then you can subscribe to the full series here:
http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/rgw-qr-sub.html

God thats awful. Couldn't get through the first page.

 reds8n wrote:

Free story!
Yep, you read that right – the first part in a new Warhammer Age of Sigmar series is now available to download for abso-flipping-lutely nothing!
Vengeance Eternal sees the Stormcasts of the Celestial Vindicators travel into the Realm of Beasts. Not only do we get our first chance to witness this brutal realm, but we get one of our first looks at a savage new greenskin tribe that inhabits the area, and has been kicking Chaos butt since before it was cool.
Download it for free now:
http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/vengeance-eternal-ebook.html
And if you enjoy the story (which you will, 'cos it's awesome) then you can subscribe to the full series here:
http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/rgw-qr-sub.html

Red, are you quoting someone else's 3rd party post on the internet or is that actually how BL solicits readers?

It's from their FB page :

https://www.facebook.com/theblacklibrary/?fref=ts

Portents was very good IMO, Mamzel Cawkwell got better with each release.

Shame we don't have anything more from her for Bl anytime soon.

 reds8n wrote:
It's from their FB page :

https://www.facebook.com/theblacklibrary/?fref=ts

Ah, thanks. That's unfortunate. It's the text equivalent of bad 1990's bad tv videogame advertising with its ROYGBIV colors and random ExXtreme! sprinkling. I do admit though that the tacky over the top style of advertising is at least consistent with the broader AOS style and ethos.

So.. is this 550 pages in the hardback format which are larger pages and thus a lower page count than a regular 'legacy' paperback, or is this "shelf busting behemoth" actually at best a quarter larger than a regular novel?


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Oh, and while I'm posting here, that free book, is that available in a format those of use who don't have ebook apps can use like PDF?