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I'm not sure why I'm still playing 40K anymore with 30K having so much coolness.

Well, okay, it's because my main armies are Tyranids and a Genestealer Cult counts-as. But still!

please please please FW stop making resin CR*CK

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
I really like how he is wearing what looks like 'Terminator' style Primarch armour, while everyone else seems to prefer 'Power' style Primarch armour.

Well, Ferrus Manus also wears terminator style armor ... both armors of Ferrus and Horus look somewhat alike ... perhaps Ferrus did his part in designing the armor for the Warmaster

 Fireball wrote:

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
I really like how he is wearing what looks like 'Terminator' style Primarch armour, while everyone else seems to prefer 'Power' style Primarch armour.

Well, Ferrus Manus also wears terminator style armor ... both armors of Ferrus and Horus look somewhat alike ... perhaps Ferrus did his part in designing the armor for the Warmaster

The 'Serpents Scales' was a gift from the Fabricator General of Mars, the visual link is probably just to unify the Primarchs as brothers.

Anyway, I absolutely adore this model!

 whalemusic360 wrote:

For the lazy among us. Love the middle lower head.

Will get those for my raptors.

Just noticed"scratches" above the eye lenses, are those scary eyebrows or are they kill counts?

The Hydra uncoils.

Watch us rise...

 Theophony wrote:
Just noticed"scratches" above the eye lenses, are those scary eyebrows or are they kill counts?

They're barely noticeable, I would assume it's just part of the manufacturing process; if they had a dedicated purpose they'd be more defined surely?

I suspect, as a RG player, that Extermination will be the first purchase I've made from GW in quite some time, and the first direct purchase in god knows how long. While, assuming it's £70 like the others, the price is a little sharp, I can at least see where some of the money is going, and I'll happily reward what I feel is 40K/30K done right with my money.

Really interested to see what Legion specialist units my Space Ninjas are going to get, and rules for Corax.

 Alpharius wrote:
That new(ish) Alpha Legion symbol is one of the dumbest things ever.

"We have a secret! But here's a BIG hint!"

Completely agree. This is the type of bonehead move I would expect from GW, but not from FW.

Do we think FW will do a bundle for the first three HH books when the third one arrives?

Doubt it, and if they did I'd guess it would be like a GW on click combo where it costs the same price as just buying the 3 books

Anyone else watched the vids yet and noticed what Simon said ? Horus armour has been good practice for his next Heresy project that will involve a lot of embossed details on armour. Custodes maybe ?
Nephilim

What battle is the map from? It shows Alpha Legion icons, but I couldn't make out what the other icons represented.

He could be talking about Vulcans' armour which is highly detailed in the stories

 Ifurita wrote:
What battle is the map from? It shows Alpha Legion icons, but I couldn't make out what the other icons represented.

Think I see:

Alpha Legion, Knights, Mechanicus and one I dont recognise

vs

Mechanicus, Knights, SOmething with a gryphonne symbol and a solid skull symbol (Loyalist iron warrior?)

This is purely conjecture, but if the cover of Vulkan Lives is anything to go by, then I'd hazard a guess Vulkan is gonna be in a highly ornate set of Terminator armour as well. He is, after all, one of the largest Primarchs. However, I'd guess that they'll probably release Mortarion next, thus completing all the Primarchs from Betrayal, before moving on to Vulkan or Conrad Curze, thus finishing the Primarchs from Massacre. If it is Vulkan, trust me to have had a rant two pages ago about the lack of Salamanders, only for them to make and appearance.

EDIT: Regarding the map, I think I see the words 'Marletium' and Panopticon' as two of the defensive positions, but Lexicanum yields no results on those. Similarly, Lexicanum yields no results on Heresy-Era Alpha Legion engagements other than Isstvan V, or general harrassing actions, including two different engagements against White Scars on Tallarn and Space Wolves at Yarant. My guess is just one of the Isstvan V Loyalist mop-up operations.

I'd also guess Morty before Vulkan, wasnt it this thread that mentioned someone heard sallies arent all that popular and that could be the reason FW hasnt done a ton of sally kits? While I've always thought the sallies were a relatively popular chapter they havent gotten a ton of love from FW but correlation does not always equal causation. Mainly for the reason warpig mentioned I'd expect Morty to be next just to complete the book primarchs.

 ironicsilence wrote:
Doubt it, and if they did I'd guess it would be like a GW on click combo where it costs the same price as just buying the 3 books

Didn't they do a pretty good deal a while back with the two Badab War books and another, which effectively worked out you got one of the books free?

I don't think that Horus sculpt could be improved in any way.

 Warpig1815 wrote:

EDIT: Regarding the map, I think I see the words 'Marletium' and Panopticon' as two of the defensive positions, but Lexicanum yields no results on those. Similarly, Lexicanum yields no results on Heresy-Era Alpha Legion engagements other than Isstvan V, or general harrassing actions, including two different engagements against White Scars on Tallarn and Space Wolves at Yarant. My guess is just one of the Isstvan V Loyalist mop-up operations.

Quite possible. All of the other engagements by Alpha Legion vs. someone else have been space engagements, if I recall correctly.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
I don't think that Horus sculpt could be improved in any way.

A bolt gun crater on the noggin' would be nice. Of course, that is coming from someone who is waiting for Sanguinius to lead his first ever 40k army.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Just like GW doesn't show any love for Iron Hands or White Scars because they aren't 'popular'. Well when you don't support them at all and don't give their fans/players something but, how can they be 'popular'?

@ironicsilence - Yeah that was me who was griping about the lack of Salamanders :( Mainly I was just confused because I'd have expected at least something, even if it isn't a Character or Primarch.

I've just had a thought as well - If Extermination features Imperial Fists v Iron Warriors at Phall, then maybe the Raven Guard and Alpha Legion are going to be paired together regarding the 98 days of 'The Raven's Flight' in which the Raven Guard systematically evaded pursing Traitor elements before they were evacuated by a small fleet of Raven Guard ships. Unbeknownst to them, Alpha Legion operatives had slipped in amongst them, utilising skin grafting from dead Raven Guard marines, in order to raise a rebellion on Kiavahr and sabotage the Raven Guards attempts to re-build.

 SickSix wrote:
It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Just like GW doesn't show any love for Iron Hands or White Scars because they aren't 'popular'. Well when you don't support them at all and don't give their fans/players something but, how can they be 'popular'?

Or maybe they come to the conclusion based on a decade of sales of conversion kits, bits, vehicles, and special characters for those chapters/legions selling less than others... You're guessing it's a chicken/egg situation based on your own bias likely but without anything to support it. Don't get me wrong as I do want each legion to get some attention but some models simply sell better than others despite whining to the contrary. The majority of armies I've seen over the past 15 years of casual 40k gaming have been loyalist marines despite the fact that they only comprise a third of the available army choices. GW and FW likely operate under the premise (supported by their own data) that marines sell better than xenos and some marines sell better than others.

 SickSix wrote:
It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Just like GW doesn't show any love for Iron Hands or White Scars because they aren't 'popular'. Well when you don't support them at all and don't give their fans/players something but, how can they be 'popular'?

Probably because for a very long time Iron Hands had virtually NO personality.. White scars are just monguls in space which unfortunately a lot don't identify with (ALSO, bikes are crazy expensive and look dumb)

I realy like all of the FW character series models and have been anticipating this release probably most of all. I really like the Horus model but I suppose my great anticipation has left me underwhelmed. By FW standards every aspect of it is good IMO but in releasing Horus I was probably expecting something to pop that I probably would never get. Not sure what i was wanting lol Perhaps a bit more emotion in the face similar to Abaddon or Angron. I know they took an artistic approach to show him as regal vs in the heat of battle etc.... This isn't me complaining and I realise I am the minority to even make any critical observations by the posts I have seen so far. Perhaps I am still drunk with elation that today is the day the sculpt was shown lol....Which of course is awesome to have a Horus sculpt.

Crazy Chaos Horus will probably "pop" more.

Your probably right and admittedly I am sure this sculpt will grow on me. I looked at FW for photos that would show alternative bits like on the kharn video/model and didn't see any.

My most iconic memory of horus in the bl novels is when he was introduced teleporting in with a storm bolter and smiling while killing the false emperor.

 Alpharius wrote:
That new(ish) Alpha Legion symbol is one of the dumbest things ever.

"We have a secret! But here's a BIG hint!"

The new Legion motto is "Wink!".