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2014/03/24 21:06:41
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
Other Forum wrote:Hi,
Thank you for your email. The Mechanicum from the Horus Heresy is the pre-runner to the Adeptus Mechanicus, however there are many changed to it before it becomes the Adeptus Mechanicus.
The Rules for the Mechanicum from the Horus Heresy are not designed to be used in games of 40k. We currently have no plans to release rules for the Mechanicum in games of 40k.
Why, oh why? That is bloody insane! I really love FW's Mechanicum models, but I won't be getting them unless they get proper 40K rules. I'm sure there are a ton of people who feel the same way; GW is losing huge potential sales because of this.
I'd play against a 30k army long before I'd play a game of Escalation or Stronghold Assault.
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2014/03/24 21:34:13
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
I don't like it as a Mechanicum tank. The exposed parts look very low tech [more like DKoK] rather than pinnacle of human technological advancement. Just looks very incongruous in comparison to the other Mechanicum stuff.
2014/03/24 22:01:37
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
I'm not completely sold on the giant 1970's 'death-ray' looking gun, but overall I rather like it - not enough to start an AdMech force, but enough to admire it from afar.
Other Forum wrote:Hi,
Thank you for your email. The Mechanicum from the Horus Heresy is the pre-runner to the Adeptus Mechanicus, however there are many changed to it before it becomes the Adeptus Mechanicus.
The Rules for the Mechanicum from the Horus Heresy are not designed to be used in games of 40k. We currently have no plans to release rules for the Mechanicum in games of 40k.
Why, oh why? That is bloody insane! I really love FW's Mechanicum models, but I won't be getting them unless they get proper 40K rules. I'm sure there are a ton of people who feel the same way; GW is losing huge potential sales because of this.
I'd play against a 30k army long before I'd play a game of Escalation or Stronghold Assault.
Agreed (although SHA is fine if you ignore the Aquila Strongpoint and Void Shield Generator entries). There is absolutely no good reason for anybody to deny you from playing a Horus Heresy army against a 40K army.
And if someone wants to complain about FW being overpowered, smack them upside the head with the Tau, Eldar, and Demon codices. Although, in a straight up book fight, the Horus Heresy books have the edge over the regular codices, because they're bigger, heavier, and have sharp metal corners to draw blood with.
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2014/03/24 23:39:51
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
So looking at this new tank all it does is reinforce to me both how on their game forgeworld are and how much gw have lost the plot (compare this to gw's latest tank kit, the turtle wagon).
2014/03/25 00:40:37
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
I don't know, but it seems to be causing lots of arguments and complaints on this forum.
Anyway, the Krios looks good. I do like the classic scifi death ray on it.
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2014/03/25 01:13:04
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
Emprah be praised! A new Mechanicum tank that has a cool not dumb retro look, a unified appearance, and generally all an all around a great model. If GW could take a note on how to make a tank.
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2014/03/25 01:13:28
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
For 100 points you give every model in your army in a 24+" bubble 3 extra AV12 HPs with IWND on top of their own toughness and armouur saves.
Oh, and you can take them in multiples.
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Bronzefists42 wrote: Emprah be praised! A new Mechanicum tank that has a cool not dumb retro look, a unified appearance, and generally all an all around a great model. If GW could take a note on how to make a tank.
omnissiah be paised, surely...?
2014/03/25 04:06:10
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
Jehan-reznor wrote: I like the steampunky look of that tank, self propelled gun, whatever. But does it have a shield? All the inner workings are visible.
The discription describes it as haveing "inter locking force fields" instead of conventional armour.
How that works rule wise remains to be seen. I will be happy to share once i get my paws on HH book 3. lol
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2014/03/25 04:46:32
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
I'm interested to find out how they represent the energy fields in game rules. I would think either a straight up armour value (like necron quantum shields) probably also equipped with the flare shields wargear, or a system more like void shields. Possibly both. Also may have an Invulnerable save when I think about it.
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2014/03/25 12:30:26
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
azreal13 wrote: For 100 points you give every model in your army in a 24+" bubble 3 extra AV12 HPs with IWND on top of their own toughness and armouur saves.
Relay Network is a single fortification with multiple VSGs.
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2014/03/25 12:35:26
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours p34 Krios battle tank
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Dammit FW, you really know how to drag us back in, don't you?
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