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Don't think the mask skins work at the aesthetic level - like the Night Lord helms that came out a while ago, it just seems bodged on to try and give them an identifying character but just looks conceited.

Think that they would look way better with beaky helms, as is the way for all marines

i thought it looked really cool in the drawing, Pacific, but i'm not so sure on the sculpt...
i still don't mind it on the helmets, but the drake skins all over the legs is killing it for me, and i was so excited for a Sallies unit, too:(...

guess i'm waiting for Space Wolves before i jump into painting 30K...

cheers
jah

 azreal13 wrote:
Ha!

I don't try to be deliberately contrary, but it does tickle me that immediately after several pages of people waxing lyrical about yet another weapon variant on a Space Marine tank chassis, we get something that is a genuine departure from the relentless Heresy treadmill, and a sculpt that is very well observed and well painted (which hasn't been a gimme for FW releases of late) and the initial response is negative/neutral.

Perhaps because I don't play WHFB and am just looking at it from a "oh, cool, giant lizard!" perspective, but I actually really like it!

I'm sure part of the problem is that WHFB people who aren't in to HH stuff probably rarely check this thread or the FW site in general because they rarely have anything for them.

I kind of like the giant Lizard. Yeah, it looks a bit like a toy with some lizardmen bits pasted on... but, err... so do all lizardmen monsters.


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 Agamemnon2 wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
It's a WHFB release on a 40k-heavy site. TBH it's not a bad model or anything, it's just even less interesting than yet another generic space marine release.

It's a profoundly uninteresting model. A giant lizard for an army made up of giant lizards.

Opposed to the dudes in power armour for armies made up of dudes in power armour, lol. I kind of like the giant lizard, but then I collect Lizardmen so I like cool looking lizard models.

 Scottywan82 wrote:
Not bad, but I would have preferred if their guns were two-handed, like heavy weapons. Make them look more menacing and more like they are there to purge with fire.

After all, these are the "nice" version of Destroyer squads.

Also, what do we have left now for units?

- Firedrake Terminators
- Gorgon Terminators
- Gal Vaborak

And then it's just character models, right? I wonder if some will be done like Autek Mor and released as "generic" models.

I will be very interested to see what they do with the Gorgons- Massacre says that Gorgon pattern terminator armour is based off Indomitus pattern terminator armour that was being improved by Ferrus Manus and his artificers, so it is a variant of the standard (Indomitus) GW terminator armour. I want to see how FW make it their own.

Overall, the new Salamanders models look awesome. But they also show the reason why I can't bring myself to do a Salamanders army. I love their fluff, I like their rules, but I just can't stand the drake skin bling.

Anyone else notice that the new Horus heresy book extermination is being described as the collectors edition? Are we going to see all the books re released in soft back? Kind of like the reverse of what black library are doing with the novels

Knockagh wrote:
Anyone else notice that the new Horus heresy book extermination is being described as the collectors edition? Are we going to see all the books re released in soft back? Kind of like the reverse of what black library are doing with the novels

Does the collectors' edition part refer to the special collection of Extermination, separately-bound Legion army list & Legion-specific rules books, and the exclusive art book, all in the fancy sleeve?

EDIT: On which subject - so sick of companies making concept art books into Super Special Secret Exclusive Editions Available for a Limited Time Only. Hello, Forgeworld, over here, yes the bloke waving at you; we live in a world in which Print On Demand is a thing, if you don't think a book would sell well enough to justify a full release, you don't need to do a tiny wee print run and drastically limit the availability. And if it's being made limited just to justify the existence of the Super Special Secret Exclusive Bundle Box Deal thing, that's just a move FW, total move. Not even half of the people who would want a copy of the art book can just magic-up £145 at short notice, but would be happy to pay a premium for it if they could buy it later.

I like those sallies a lot!

I'd really like to see the Gal Vorbek.

I'm sure FW could do an awesome job with them, and just after The Crimson Slaughter made them troops...

 Yodhrin wrote:

Knockagh wrote:
Anyone else notice that the new Horus heresy book extermination is being described as the collectors edition? Are we going to see all the books re released in soft back? Kind of like the reverse of what black library are doing with the novels

Does the collectors' edition part refer to the special collection of Extermination, separately-bound Legion army list & Legion-specific rules books, and the exclusive art book, all in the fancy sleeve?

I hadn't noticed that, it sounds more plausible. I just thought for a brief moment that they thought the buy in to 30k was getting too high and possibly restricting model sales with all these £70 volumes.

Look, it's Horus.

Thanks... but you're about 5 pages too late with that!

I am? Curses! Sorry all, not been keeping track of the thread!

Oh sweet merciful Lord, this is the moment I've been waiting for - Salamanders! I've got to say, I love 'em. I'm not overly fond of the greave and belt Drake-skins, but it's a minor gripe for an awesome set I'm not too fussed about the skin obscuring the helmets, as I'm sure the Firedrakes are going to get suitably saurian helms without the drake-scale masks. Now, I'm just going to leave and contentedly burble 'Salamanders' to myself...

Hopefully we get a good number of previews tomorrow.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
Hopefully we get a good number of previews tomorrow.

Not only that, but with Extermination on sale at the event tomorrow, we'll get to hear about some of the stuff in it. I'll bet dollars to pesos that Alpharius (the Mod) will be hitting F5 on every major info site all day tomorrow to hear about the rules for Alpharius (the Primarch).

Hopefully, we will see some FW Knight Arms.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
Hopefully we get a good number of previews tomorrow.

Not only that, but with Extermination on sale at the event tomorrow, we'll get to hear about some of the stuff in it. I'll bet dollars to pesos that Alpharius (the Mod) will be hitting F5 on every major info site all day tomorrow to hear about the rules for Alpharius (the Primarch).

Ill be busy finishing up painting a SpecOps for an Infinity event at Adepticon so...

...I'll be hitting F5 on this thread only - don't let me down troops!

 bubber wrote:
I like the masks myself. Shame they're not in the DG list.

It's a chunk of dead lizard being worn as a veil. I don't think it needs stats, just part of the usual Space Marine 3+ armor save.

I like the details, but he masks are my least favorite part. I guess 'filters' would make sense on a unit that spends a lot of time around ash and smoke, but I like to think Space Marine armor does a better job than reptilian skin at filtering out whatever stuff Space Marines would be affected by.

Yeah, the scraps of salamander skins glued to their powered armour probably aren't going to enhance their 3+ ceramite armour save all that much.

And it begins...

Ohhhh


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That Knight looks really different to the standard kit, is it just the arm they've changed or is there something else?

Photos courtecy of MyWargame.com via Facebook:

"Gorgon Terminators and Thallax weapons"


"Lancer, a full resin kit and not an upgrade (rules in Heresy Book #3"




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"Tyranids"



"Mechanicum"



(Just grouped everything the way it was grouped on their Facebook page)

Gorgon Terminators? What are those?


Oh cool another robo... OMG that thing's fething enormous!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Gorgon Terminators? What are those?

Damned Jim, I'm a reposter not a Lexianum .

(I think Elite Terminators or Body Guard of Ferrus Manus aka The Gorgon)

Tyranid stuff is looking great!

 Sasori wrote:
Tyranid stuff is looking great!

Yeah. My immediate thought was "I don't know what that is, but I want one!".

Liking the looks of the Tyranids very creepy looking. Not to sure about the Gorgons they look quite static and look a bit like the old Mk.1 terminators.

I am very curious about those "Tyranosaurus Nidz" legs...

I didn't grasp the scale at first, the Thanatar is pretty gigantic. I thought it was going to be Castellax-sized

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
I didn't grasp the scale at first, the Thanatar is pretty gigantic. I thought it was going to be Castellax-sized

Did the same thing. I thought it was nice that they put a siege gun on the chassis... and then noticed the "small" regular ones off to the side.