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 sonofruss wrote:
Reaver is 18" to the top of the Apoc launcher Warlord is supposed to be 24" tall they will eventually need to make a new carapace connector for the Warhound weapons as the apoc launchers connector won't work.
So it should cost between $800 and $1500 not a break the bank figure but still not cheap ether.

They aren't going to make a carapace connector for the warhound arms, the plan is to make a new turret that swaps in the barrels and ammo/power pack for the various weapons. Guns will have a mantlet and possibly be able to elevate.

Yeah...you know, seeing them side-by-side, I think FW went a bit OTT with the Lancer. An inch or so of extra height and a more slender design would have been enough to differentiate the two patterns. As it is, depending on the pose of each, the Lancer could conceivably end up taller than a Warhound, which is just daft IMO.

You really get the feeling they were told to make it as difficult as possible to just convert one. The size however does seem in line with a Knight Baron and in the new fluff they seem to have retconned Knight Barons as modified Knight Lancers.

I didn't want to be that guy with the Imperial Knight army. But I'll almost certainly have one of each variant they make, so if they do the crusader / castellan / Baron I will end up with an army's worth.
I just hope forge world do a power fist conversion kit for the errant, it really bugs me that the current kit uses the chainsword.
Also doe's the lancer HAVE to take the shield, the old epic ones had the lance and a battle cannon didn't they?

So it looks like the new Knight Lancer is about as tall as my Warhound. That makes me very sadface. Feels like it cheapens or takes away from the Titan.

RanaldLoec on Warseer wrote:Warhammer Fantasy releases I asked the answer was ...........................errrrr not any time soon.

 Kroothawk wrote:

RanaldLoec on Warseer wrote:Warhammer Fantasy releases I asked the answer was ...........................errrrr not any time soon.

This was also posted to their Facebook page before it, er, disappeared:

Q: Just curious does anyone know of the black fire pass project is still being worked on?
Forgeworld: Hi, I'm afraid it is on indefinate (sic) hold at the moment.

Anyone get a release date for the LE HH book set?

 Tamereth wrote:
I just hope forge world do a power fist conversion kit for the errant, it really bugs me that the current kit uses the chainsword.

did you see this how to for making your own powerfist for the knight?

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.735501709802439.1073741909.152294311456518&type=1

Behold, the towering Knight Lancer. It is a fearsome foe, striding well above it's opponents, scaring them silly before all 400 points of it is vaporized by 3 broadsides in a single round of shooting. Aren't you glad you ran at them 3d6 instead of shooting?

I have to say, I'm not terribly impressed by the Lancer, it just looks too tall and lanky (and the helmet is ugly.) I much prefer the heavy, solid look of the plastic knights. I really hope that existence of this new kit won't mean that all FW knight weapons will be for it instead of the plastic knights.

katfude wrote:
Behold, the towering Knight Lancer. It is a fearsome foe, striding well above it's opponents, scaring them silly before all 400 points of it is vaporized by 3 broadsides in a single round of shooting. Aren't you glad you ran at them 3d6 instead of shooting?

That would be pretty impressive, considering its AV13 with a 4+ invulnerable save.

The Knight Lancer?

Too tall!

WTF?!?

 Alpharius wrote:
The Knight Lancer?

Too tall!

WTF?!?

Makes sense. The Epic versions were pretty lanky as well.

 Alpharius wrote:
The Knight Lancer?

Knight Titan Lancer.

Or Knight Lancer Titan.

Get it straight

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

katfude wrote:
Behold, the towering Knight Lancer. It is a fearsome foe, striding well above it's opponents, scaring them silly before all 400 points of it is vaporized by 3 broadsides in a single round of shooting. Aren't you glad you ran at them 3d6 instead of shooting?

That would be pretty impressive, considering its AV13 with a 4+ invulnerable save.

You sure? That looked like a fuzzy 12 to me, not a 13. I'll gladly accept av13 on the front!

 Alpharius wrote:
That's just the cherry on top of the Wrong Sundae that is...Snrub.

Everyone knows that Curves are where it is at!

Yes well after seeing the 862 pages you've contributed toe hot chicks thread its not surprising to me at all that you think that way.

Curves... pfft. Everyone knows the best women are squared off at the hips, have super fething broad shoulders and tote plasma blastguns.

Take your beetley hunchbacked old crone and go back to Mars.

MajorWesJanson wrote:

 sonofruss wrote:
Reaver is 18" to the top of the Apoc launcher Warlord is supposed to be 24" tall they will eventually need to make a new carapace connector for the Warhound weapons as the apoc launchers connector won't work.
So it should cost between $800 and $1500 not a break the bank figure but still not cheap ether.

They aren't going to make a carapace connector for the warhound arms, the plan is to make a new turret that swaps in the barrels and ammo/power pack for the various weapons. Guns will have a mantlet and possibly be able to elevate.

Ok I just hope they fit the Reavers ascetic

Snrub wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
That's just the cherry on top of the Wrong Sundae that is...Snrub.

Everyone knows that Curves are where it is at!

Yes well after seeing the 862 pages you've contributed toe hot chicks thread its not surprising to me at all that you think that way.

Curves... pfft. Everyone knows the best women are squared off at the hips, have super fething broad shoulders and tote plasma blastguns.

Take your beetley hunchbacked old crone and go back to Mars.

Things done in the pit stay in the pit Curves For the Omissia and hips for Mars

Exactly.

Apparently Snrub needs to be sent to Re-education Camp.

Again.

 sonofruss wrote:

MajorWesJanson wrote:

 sonofruss wrote:
Reaver is 18" to the top of the Apoc launcher Warlord is supposed to be 24" tall they will eventually need to make a new carapace connector for the Warhound weapons as the apoc launchers connector won't work.
So it should cost between $800 and $1500 not a break the bank figure but still not cheap ether.

They aren't going to make a carapace connector for the warhound arms, the plan is to make a new turret that swaps in the barrels and ammo/power pack for the various weapons. Guns will have a mantlet and possibly be able to elevate.

Ok I just hope they fit the Reavers ascetic

Given that the weapons are supposed to be interchangeable between the reaver and Warlord, they will fit the aesthetic.

timd wrote:

 HisDivineShadow wrote:
I dont get why it's full resin. Why not an upgrade kit? Then spend those resources on more extras. Even if you are wholesale replacing the legs. ...
Depending on price. .I may just convert a Lancer.

I think the photo below answers that question. Hello DF Leviathan...

YESS!!! Now if only weapon options were at all appropriate to it -__-

 Millicant wrote:
So it looks like the new Knight Lancer is about as tall as my Warhound. That makes me very sadface. Feels like it cheapens or takes away from the Titan.

Don't worry, the warhound is still far, far bulkier than the lancer.

I always imagined Alpharius to be using some sort of illusions so he could just slip in with every one else, something akin to Magnus making himself appear larger and Curze hiding in the shadows.
I think the warlord will be around a couple thousand pounds knowing FW.

 Rayvon wrote:
I always imagined Alpharius to be using some sort of illusions so he could just slip in with every one else, something akin to Magnus making himself appear larger and Curze hiding in the shadows.
I think the warlord will be around a couple thousand pounds knowing FW.

That sounds like xenos witchcraft to me. I suspect he just used his extensive collection of STC Dark Age of Technology moustaches as disguises. It also has the added benefit of giving him something to twirl if and when he goes evil.

I am liking that Lancer. The size difference surprises me, I wonder if it was build before GW had finalized their own model?

Whatever the case I think it was a good move as I wouldn't have liked just a few little conversion bits for such an iconic and diverse model as a Knight.

Also. Why are those banners always shown at FW events not available for general sale? I would snatch a couple of them up in seconds!

I guess forgeworld didn't get the memo that GW was changing the model size to stick it to dreamforge

 Theophony wrote:
I guess forgeworld didn't get the memo that GW was changing the model size to stick it to dreamforge

Ha!

It is 8" tall after all!

And I would have been happy with conversion kits to add to the existing Knight.

The Lancer still looks/feels too tall to me.

 Theophony wrote:
I guess forgeworld didn't get the memo that GW was changing the model size to stick it to dreamforge

Funny because its true... oh so true. Lol, take that GW sillies. FW scores again for truth justice and playing well with others.

IMO the Lancer is too big/massive in comparison to the Paladin.

The Lancer looks to be just under 8.5", making the relative heights between the 40K models the same as the relative heights between the Epic Paladin and the Epic Lancer with the German style helm (not counting his spike). The big difference between the 40K Lancer and the Epic Lancer is the overall mass. The Epic Lancer is much skinnier than the 40K Lancer, whereas the 40K Lancer is a both taller and more massive than the 40K Paladin.

After looking at this Paladin/Lancer comparison pic a bit we see the following major differences

Carapace is narrower and taller (about 3/8" taller)
Inner carapace collar is missing and head is larger than the Paladin head
Breast armor plate looks much bigger
Hips are wider?
Legs are heavier in general
Upper leg is longer
Middle leg segment added
Lower leg is longer

Don't see any easy way to scale down the mass and height of the Lancer. Seems like the best way to approach it would be to use the Lancer upper half and the lower half of the Paladin with lengthened legs to bring the overall height up to 7 to 7.5".

Excess lower Lancer retrograde legs could be used to make a Slaaneshi knight or even a Subjugator Titan...

 Snrub wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
That's just the cherry on top of the Wrong Sundae that is...Snrub.

Everyone knows that Curves are where it is at!

Yes well after seeing the 862 pages you've contributed toe hot chicks thread its not surprising to me at all that you think that way.

Curves... pfft. Everyone knows the best women are squared off at the hips, have super fething broad shoulders and tote plasma blastguns.

Take your beetley hunchbacked old crone and go back to Mars.

"toe hot chicks thread"?

I ar intrigued...