Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - p#132 Questoris Knight Magaera

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**Knockagh**

Anyone hear any whispers about additional zone mortalis tiles coming out this year?

**Co'tor Shas**

I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but in FWs email new letter the shirts are listed under this heading
"The following pre-order items will be available at Adepticon"

This may mean that we will be able to get them after all.

**aka_mythos**

Knockagh wrote:
Anyone hear any whispers about additional zone mortalis tiles coming out this year?

On another rumor page some one asked and got that no more were being worked on right now.

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Co'tor Shas wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but in FWs email new letter the shirts are listed under this heading
"The following pre-order items will be available at Adepticon"

This may mean that we will be able to get them after all.

FW usually brings a number of prerelease items with them to events and sell them on a first come first serve basis. The fact they're bringing these to different events may reduce the total available the day they go on sale but in the past they've never brought so many that it zeroed out the release day availability.

**Commander Cain**

Oh boy I do hope that those t-shirts will be available to us common plebs, I need one of those mechanicum ones!

Just shot them an email, guess I should find out soon enough...

**Marshal Loss**

Zuul wrote:
Sirius42 wrote:
Forgeworld newsflash just out. Looks like they intend to sell all the limited edition books before they even go up for general preorder as they can be preordered for salute and adepticon. Anyone want to pick me up one?

I really wanted one...

I emailed them and while they obviously weren't able to confirm numbers, they would say that only a small portion of the books would be available there. The Collectors Edition will go on general release sometime in the next two weeks - my bet is either the 4th (possibly) or the 11th (much more likely).

**Zuul**

Marshal Loss wrote:
Zuul wrote:
Sirius42 wrote:
Forgeworld newsflash just out. Looks like they intend to sell all the limited edition books before they even go up for general preorder as they can be preordered for salute and adepticon. Anyone want to pick me up one?

I really wanted one...

I emailed them and while they obviously weren't able to confirm numbers, they would say that only a small portion of the books would be available there. The Collectors Edition will go on general release sometime in the next two weeks - my bet is either the 4th (possibly) or the 11th (much more likely).

I guess this means calling bright and early at 4:30am -5 gmt every Friday to see. If it gets me one it'll be worth it.

**Moopy**

Yea, I really want that collectors edition. All kinds of beautiful.

**Kolbalt266**

IA13 War Machines of the Lost and the Damned: Summer/Autumn 2014

via Pushkin over on Warseer

IA 13 is the next Imperial Armour book, and we are getting some information as to what it is called, and its contents. IA 13 will be called War Machines of the Lost and the Damned and will be coming this summer/fall. In it wil be updated or new Chaos Renegades, and lots of Chaos Vehicles.

The art book was on display at the open day and had pictures of a Chaos Thunderhawk, Chaos Stormeagle and the Anvilluss pattern and Kharybdis assault claw.

This sounds great, as adding more options for Chaos is always welcome.

Please remember that this is a rumor, and is a report from pushkin on what he saw at the Forgeworld Open Day

I posted quite a lot of this in the Forgeworld open day, but I went through the notes i made and had missed out a few things and i thought it would be good to get its own thread.
IA13 is called War Machines of the Lost and the Damned. It is written by Andy Hoare and edited by Talima Fox.

It will be released in Summer/Autumn 2014.

The book will contain an updated Chaos Renegades list similar to the one found in the Vraks trilogy, along with numerous chaos vehicles/war machines including updated versions of the Horus Heresy vehicles for the traitors to use in regular games of 40k. It's unclear whether this will be a variant of the 'Defenders of Vraks' list in IA1, the servants of slaughter list in IA6 or the servants of decay list in IA7. I imagine it will be a reworked version of all three. (i.e. quite chaosy but without the campaign specific units like the Alpha Legion). Talima described the list as being the renegade version of what the list in IA12 was for the Death Korps of Krieg - make of that what you will!

The art book was on display at the open day and had pictures of a Chaos Thunderhawk, Chaos Stormeagle and the Anvilluss pattern and Kharybdis assault claw.
Speaking to Andy Hoare he mentioned the rules for the Horus heresy era war machines would be updated to reflect the ten thousands years that they had spent in the warp and the access to munitions that the chaos legions had. He gave two examples, the first being the missile load out on the Storm Eagle, instead of the tempest rockets load out it will have access to Balefire missiles.

The second example was the class M2KB Landraider. Instead of the explorator augatory web which is designed for scanning enemy positions and co-ordinating forces, however due to the corruption of the warp this is now used to intercept enemy positions and thwart their movements. It will be interesting to see the rules for this.The greater brass scorpion of Khorne and the decimator engine also had new renders on screen in the graphics part, which suggests that updated rules for these models.

It's also worth noting that HH3: Extermination contains references to Iron Warrior specific siege tanks used during the battle of Paramar and the dark mechanicum using stalk tank like units to hunt the raven guard survivors on Istavaan, so it will be interesting to see whether these units crop up in either future HH books or IA13.
I am speaking to my friend who was also chatting to lots of the designers about this and many other things, so ill ask him if i've missed anything!

Afterthought - i'm not 100% sure that the name is correct, reading Vraks again all the lists refer to Renegades and heretics, but the start of the title was definitely "war machines of the".

**warboss**

Nice, a chaos themed book. Hopefully the next one will be xenos themed after that (despite the "Imperial" armour book line name which is admittedly only slightly less appropriate for a chaos themed book). Also, IB4inevitablechaoslegionruleswhining.

**chaos0xomega**

Fun fact about the Collectors Edition BTW, its only 1/2 to 2/3rds or so of the price of buying the books individually.

**Baragash**

chaos0xomega wrote:
Fun fact about the Collectors Edition BTW, its only 1/2 to 2/3rds or so of the price of buying the books individually.

The Collector's Edition doesn't include Books I & II

**warboss**

Baragash wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
Fun fact about the Collectors Edition BTW, its only 1/2 to 2/3rds or so of the price of buying the books individually.

The Collector's Edition doesn't include Books I & II

Except for the legion army list entries (not sure about the individual legion lists but IIRC they were on the table of contents posted earlier as well) but you are correct overall. Still, it's a good buy for someone just looking for a leaner book with the 30k marine "codex" separate. I'd be tempted to go in with someone who wants the big book and slip case but would be willing to sell the smaller codex book (feel free to PM me about that).

**Commander Cain**

Forge World wrote:
Thank you for your email. The Forge World T-shirts are event only items, we have no current plans to place them on general sale.

I figured as much but this saddens me none the less.

**Tannhauser42**

Marshal Loss wrote:
Zuul wrote:
Sirius42 wrote:
Forgeworld newsflash just out. Looks like they intend to sell all the limited edition books before they even go up for general preorder as they can be preordered for salute and adepticon. Anyone want to pick me up one?

I really wanted one...

I emailed them and while they obviously weren't able to confirm numbers, they would say that only a small portion of the books would be available there. The Collectors Edition will go on general release sometime in the next two weeks - my bet is either the 4th (possibly) or the 11th (much more likely).

Considering the size and weight of the HH books (let alone the increased size and weight of the collector's edition), I'm not surprised that only a small amount would be on sale at those events. Shipping a couple hundred pounds of books through normal channels is not cheap.

**Koppo**

Pre order for HH collectors edition is up.

Got mine!

**Looky Likey**

I see they have the trilogy as bundle @ £280 representing a £5 saving.

Bit disappointed for others that the legion list book isn't available with the normal version of Extermination.

**Zuul**

Koppo wrote:
Pre order for HH collectors edition is up.

Got mine!

Me too! I'm very excited!

I've been checking the site every couple hours to see if it went up, glad my persistence paid off!

Now I get to pay off my credit card...totally worth it!

**Melcavuk**

I only want 2 of the 4 books involved... debating if thats still worth it since it's the only way to get the crusade army list book

**zedmeister**

Ordered. I think they're going to sell out fast and probably end up with more orders than books...

**Melcavuk**

I caved and ordered it. Will be nice to add to my collection anyway

**Sasori**

Scwhing! Just ordered mine. Picked up a Canoptek Tomb Sentinel, despite it having terrible rules, to add to my army!

I would be super excited for a Chaos book! Damn you Forge World!

**Haighus**

Got mine too

Doesn't appear to be sold out yet, and it has been 30mins since the FW newsletter. Although most of the people saying they've got it- on here at least- seem to be European- is the rest of the world still asleep/at work atm? Gonna be a scramble for the last few copies I would think.

**marv335**

Ordered a collectors edition too.
Threw in a Horus too while I was at it.
Price isn't too bad for what it is, I feel.

**sarduka42**

Yep, mine is preordered too. Was really hoping that I would get one

**H.B.M.C.**

Hmm... so they are selling them normally?

Ok.

Ordered.

**Slinky**

The wording of the update makes me think that the army list may be available outside this collector's set in the future:

"Special Edition Legiones Astartes Crusade Army List (with exclusive cover)"

So there might still be hope for a future non-special edition, with non-exclusive cover?

**Baragash**

Yeah, I think only the artbook is once-chance-only.

**Marshal Loss**

Ordered within 10 minutes of it coming out thankfully, the stress is over!

As for the other books (except 'Illuminations'), yeah I think it's safe to say they'll be out in the future

**Tannhauser42**

Just ordered mine, too. And had to call the bank to authorize the charge.

**chaos0xomega**

After realizing that it doesn't actually include the first two books in the series, I decided I didn't want it anymore