Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - p#132 Questoris Knight Magaera

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**marv335**

I'm trying desperately not to collect a 30k army, so I'm just sticking to the collectors series at the moment, and I've got them all to date, so there was nothing else I needed.
Although if there are rules for Rogal Dorn in HH:3, I might break.....

**Melcavuk**

Apparently he does have rules in HH3, along with two other Imperial Fist characters.

**scrunty**

Yep there are rules for Dorn and his own dedicates transport thunderhawk gunship! I'm looking forward ( well maybe!) To facing him as soon as his and alpharius models appear.

**marv335**

I expect at least one of the IF characters will be Sigismund and the other Alexis Polux (First chapter masters of the Black Templars and Crimson Fists post heresy)

**jonolikespie**

Those might actually be the models to convince me to buy into this 'heresy character series'. They should be cool, even if BLs recent love affair with hardback limited novellas have killed most of my interest in the 30k setting.

**Dryaktylus**

marv335 wrote:
I expect at least one of the IF characters will be Sigismund and the other Alexis Polux (First chapter masters of the Black Templars and Crimson Fists post heresy)

Yes, both are in the book.

**marv335**

Dryaktylus wrote:
marv335 wrote:
I expect at least one of the IF characters will be Sigismund and the other Alexis Polux (First chapter masters of the Black Templars and Crimson Fists post heresy)

Yes, both are in the book.

This makes me very happy.

**Tannhauser42**

You can check out Sigismund's rules by watching the book 3 preview vid in high def and pausing it when they show that page.

**B0B MaRlEy**

It's one of the pages previewed on the book's product page, the very last one

**Kirasu**

jonolikespie wrote:
Those might actually be the models to convince me to buy into this 'heresy character series'. They should be cool, even if BLs recent love affair with hardback limited novellas have killed most of my interest in the 30k setting.

You'll have years to wait still if the glacial pace of primarch releases continue as normal. Maybe in 2020 they'll have everything done

**Necroagogo**

Could anyone in possession of Book 3 let me know if the Mechanicum army list allows for dedicated LR transports?

Thanks in advance!

**Kroothawk**

Not sure if this has been discussed before:

spiderman_stu over at Warseer wrote:Hi guys,
been to the event today and had really great discussion with a few of the book design team around thousand sons and a release! If some of this stuff is already known then fair enough but some may be new! 2 heresy books a year with something in between to break it up and let more models to be released! Now I've seen some rumours that say prospero may be book 4, well I was told it would most likely be book 5! Also had a chat about that book and was confirmed custodians, sisters and wolves will be included! Now I really wanted to find out about the rules and how TS would be represented and they are currently trying to work rules to be fair, I asked about brotherhood of psykers like GK but was told they were trying to make it cooler so powers for each group but they hadn't worked out how many if all would be psychic in a unit! Also talked and they have done a test squad of TS as well the medusa and confirmed sergeants will have white shoulder trims while normal guys gold! Also told mechanicum transport is being worked on! But put prospero book back to maybe this time next year?
(...)

From talking to the guys they want to make sure they get it right, like trying to not make custodians to ott and Ahriman, Bjorne, and how the psychic powers fit in to the heresy when no other legion really has any! One of the designers said prospero and emperors palace books are the 2 he can't wait to do models for!

also he said next few books are written year before release so book 3 they finished year ago just all the models and art take the time to complete. I am really buzzing for them though, what mastery level will Magnus be?

**Sirius42**

So any confirmation on what book 4 will be?

**Zuul**

Necroagogo wrote:
Could anyone in possession of Book 3 let me know if the Mechanicum army list allows for dedicated LR transports?

Thanks in advance!

Can't thallax already take one as a dedicated transport?

**Lockark**

Sirius42 wrote:
So any confirmation on what book 4 will be?

My guess is the rumored blood angles plus dark angle side story.

**Sirius42**

I know the next 3 are supposed to be calth, signus and prospero but I don't know if they have changed the order as originally prospero was going to be book 6

**Lockark**

Sirius42 wrote:
I know the next 3 are supposed to be calth, signus and prospero but I don't know if they have changed the order as originally prospero was going to be book 6

Actully the order alot of people have been quoteing has been

4)Prospero
5)Signus(Plus dark angel side story)
6)Calth.

If Prospero is book 5, then I would guess it would be Signus that will take it's spot.

(This order is bassicly derived from the chronalical order the evens took place)

**Commander_Farsight**

Enigma Crisis wrote:
I haven't actually seen the rules for it but I really enjoy the look of the Fire Raptor.

I sent an email to FW asking why the GKs aren't included in the list for who can field the Fire Raptor. Hopefully they can provide a good explanation. Is there something I'm missing? Like is there already a fluff reason or something?

**Kirasu**

My problem with Magnus' stats are going to be that he's basically the most powerful Primarch by any metric, so I'm not sure how they'll tone him down. Only reason Russ beat him is cause that's what Russ is supposed to do since no one else has a crazy anti-warp field like he does.

Honestly Magnus and the Emperor are just too powerful for normal 40k stats heh. Then again Lorgar did beat An'ggrath the unbound in single combat so stats dont mean a lot! (same with that stupid inquisitor dude)

**Sirius42**

Magnus is the most powerful psyker, not the most powerful primarch, as there is actually no such thing in my opinion, they all have strengths and weaknesses but if you averaged them all out they should all be even (except lorgar, I hate that guy!). Seriously though, mortarion-hardest to kill, vulkan-physically strongest(and the bad fluff spoiler), angron/sanguinus/Russ-best in cc and really angry/precog and wings/anti warp pet wolves respectively, corax/night haunter- stealth and jump packs, horus-savage and tactically sound, I could go on but getting bored now, oh 1 more-alpharius-double strike (so as to no spoiler).

**sonofruss**

Sirius42 wrote:
Magnus is the most powerful psyker, not the most powerful primarch, as there is actually no such thing in my opinion, they all have strengths and weaknesses but if you averaged them all out they should all be even (except lorgar, I hate that guy!). Seriously though, mortarion-hardest to kill, vulkan-physically strongest(and the bad fluff spoiler), angron/sanguinus/Russ-best in cc and really angry/precog and wings/anti warp pet wolves respectively, corax/night haunter- stealth and jump packs, horus-savage and tactically sound, I could go on but getting bored now, oh 1 more-alpharius-double strike (so as to no spoiler).

Magnus was the largest and physically the strongest of the Primarchs he just didn't use his physical strength as much as his brothers did.
As for how Russ he broke Magnus like a twig because of the TS using forbidden powers and the Big E told him to take them out.

**Powerguy**

sonofruss wrote:
Sirius42 wrote:
Magnus is the most powerful psyker, not the most powerful primarch, as there is actually no such thing in my opinion, they all have strengths and weaknesses but if you averaged them all out they should all be even (except lorgar, I hate that guy!). Seriously though, mortarion-hardest to kill, vulkan-physically strongest(and the bad fluff spoiler), angron/sanguinus/Russ-best in cc and really angry/precog and wings/anti warp pet wolves respectively, corax/night haunter- stealth and jump packs, horus-savage and tactically sound, I could go on but getting bored now, oh 1 more-alpharius-double strike (so as to no spoiler).

Magnus was the largest and physically the strongest of the Primarchs he just didn't use his physical strength as much as his brothers did.
As for how Russ he broke Magnus like a twig because of the TS using forbidden powers and the Big E told him to take them out.

While he was certainly the largest we have nothing to confirm that he was actually the strongest. Simply being physically larger than someone doesn't guarantee that you are stronger than them. Is there actually evidence of him showing physical strength above that of his brothers? Or indeed evidence of others in the fluff claiming him to be the strongest Primarch (other than the logical jump people are making when he is described as the largest Primarch)? Based on actual evidence I believe Vulkan and Angron are the top two contenders for being the strongest, Vulkan repeatedly displays extraordinary strength even without armour (and as the most passive Primarch claims he never used his full strength when sparring etc) and Angron held up a Titan.

**MajorWesJanson**

Lockark wrote:
Sirius42 wrote:
I know the next 3 are supposed to be calth, signus and prospero but I don't know if they have changed the order as originally prospero was going to be book 6

Actully the order alot of people have been quoteing has been

4)Prospero
5)Signus(Plus dark angel side story)
6)Calth.

If Prospero is book 5, then I would guess it would be Signus that will take it's spot.

(This order is bassicly derived from the chronalical order the evens took place)

So far we have 12 of the legions done:
Sons of Horus, Death Guard, Emperor's Children, and World Eaters in book 1
Iron Hands, Salamanders, Word Bearers, and Night Lords? in book 2
Iron Warriors, Raven Guard, Alpha Legion, Imperial Fists in book 3.

That leaves 6 to go, so we can easily fit them in the next three books:
Prospero- Space Wolves and Thousand Sons, with Sisters of Silence and Custodes
Signus- Blood Angels and Daemons, with Dark Angels (maybe and more night lords?)
Calth- Ultramarines, Imperial Army, likely updates for Word Bearers and World Eaters. White Scars seem like they would fit in here as well, like DA fit in the signus book.

Then book 7 could combine all the Mechanicum units, add Dark Mechanicum, and likely the Warlord Titan and do Mars.

**zedmeister**

On the White Scars, spoilered for those that haven't read Scars

Spoiler:

**Necroagogo**

Zuul wrote:
Necroagogo wrote:
Could anyone in possession of Book 3 let me know if the Mechanicum army list allows for dedicated LR transports?

Thanks in advance!

Can't thallax already take one as a dedicated transport?

They can in the Book 1 list, can't in Book 2.

**SRSFACE**

Kirasu wrote:
My problem with Magnus' stats are going to be that he's basically the most powerful Primarch by any metric,

Considering how nuts-bonkers all the Primarchs are so far, it really wouldn't matter if he was totally OP. All of them are.

A lot of people like to point at Angron and say "he's not that good" but that's because they simply look at a 3+ save and think he's bad because of it. Considering anyone who's actually going to be a threat to him in close combat will be rocking AP2, who cares? He's still got a 4++. Only hurts him in the shooting phase by a little bit. We've theory ran him in some games at my FLGS and he tends to kill significantly more dudes than any of his brothers. He's just not ubertank like Vulkan, Ferrus Manus and Mortarion but then again the only other primarch without psychic aid who should be nearly as tank as they are is Perturabo.

And a lot of other people think Lorgar isn't that great. I think they are stupid. Lorgar is OP. Pick your powers, roll 3 dice and take the two lowest? Guaranteed Invisibility/Gate of Infinity, and you don't have to worry about failing your psychic tests (though I guess he's at greater risk to Perils of the Warp). As long as invisibility is up, he can actually take on most the other primarchs and do pretty solid.

**H.B.M.C.**

Yeah, worrying about the Primarch rules is a little silly. They're Primarchs. They're meant to be stupidly powerful.

Anyway, what do people think the third trilogy would have? Assume that the Siege of Terra is three books unto itself, what other conflicts are there? The war on Mars? Battle of Tallarn? What else would fit?

**WarOne**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah, worrying about the Primarch rules is a little silly. They're Primarchs. They're meant to be stupidly powerful.

Anyway, what do people think the third trilogy would have? Assume that the Siege of Terra is three books unto itself, what other conflicts are there? The war on Mars? Battle of Tallarn? What else would fit?

I'd imagine a series of books in the epic struggle of the Emperor trying to hold in a dookie.

The Procrastination of the Emperor
The Constipation of the Emperor
The Golden Toilet Malfunctions

**Looky Likey**

I'd expect one trilogy to cover the legions off by themselves, so Dark Angels, White Scars, Night Lords?

**esinhorn**

Magnus was the largest and physically the strongest of the Primarchs he just didn't use his physical strength as much as his brothers did.
As for how Russ he broke Magnus like a twig because of the TS using forbidden powers and the Big E told him to take them out.