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2014/04/14 09:43:53
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - Open Day coverage (Knight Lancer and more, pg 43)
At least that's what I get putting together the hints from all over.
If it goes down like that (sure hope it does) I'd end up getting all 3 books. I'm not sure what DA have to do with Signus Prime, though, unless you just mean they'd maybe try and cover two conflicts in that book (I find that doubtful but I'm no expert)
Trouble with Signus Prime is there are like... 5 word bearers there, and otherwise it's all blood angels fighting daemon things, I'm not sure how well that fits in to the HH book series. I haven't got my hopes up that they'll cover it at all, tbh.
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2014/04/14 09:58:14
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - Open Day coverage (Knight Lancer and more, pg 43)
My feeling, as I've been told that FW want to do evil versions of the traitor Primarchs, is that the Emperor will be released in a duel set with evil Horus. That would make sense and is the biggest duel of the series. God knows what it'll cost though.
2014/04/14 10:15:55
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - Open Day coverage (Knight Lancer and more, pg 43)
If they are going for ten years with the current rate of two primarchs per year then they will only cover the 18 legions + the Big E and one other, probably evil Horus, although the current one *could* fit into a diorama with the Big E as he is standing on steps.
Once HH finishes I'd expect them to carry on the 30k timeline straight after Terra with a new series, that would make a lot of sense to me.
2014/04/14 10:30:13
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - Open Day coverage (Knight Lancer and more, pg 43)
It's been a busy fortnight for me with more than a few hours travelling time. Just over a week ago I was promoting transatlantic relations by introducing the US to The Horus Heresy Book Three: Extermination, and the Horus the Warmaster and Iron Hands Iron Father models, amongst others, at Adepticon!
The Forge World stand before the Adepticon crowds descended upon it at opening time
Whilst at the show, I did manage to escape the Forge World Sales stand for a few minutes to check out some of the exceptionally painted models that were on display.
With Adepticon’s own painting competition underway, it was great to see some fantastic Forge World models there, such as the Primarchs Ferrus Manus and Angron from our Horus Heresy Character Series, and even a few Warhound Titans!
There are plenty more events Forge World will be attending this year and more will be confirmed soon. Keep checking our Events page for details.
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From what the impression of what the guy said is that there would be heresy era infantry units being released (Prosperous Guard is a good example someone brought up) but that your 40kIG models would be usable. Not that they wouldn't release IA resin models. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
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2014/04/14 11:38:42
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - Open Day coverage (Knight Lancer and more, pg 43)
Bull0 wrote: If it goes down like that (sure hope it does) I'd end up getting all 3 books. I'm not sure what DA have to do with Signus Prime, though, unless you just mean they'd maybe try and cover two conflicts in that book (I find that doubtful but I'm no expert)
Trouble with Signus Prime is there are like... 5 word bearers there, and otherwise it's all blood angels fighting daemon things, I'm not sure how well that fits in to the HH book series. I haven't got my hopes up that they'll cover it at all, tbh.
The DA don't have anything to do with Signus Prime. However, I was under the impression that FW are going to put more than 1 Chapter in a book and some of the stories will get lumped into the same book. It also gives them an opportunity to put Non-Marine armies in the books as well. Singus Prime would be a great place for some Demons, at least Khorne and Slannesh. The DA were out on the Fringe, as far as I know. I'm not sure what the whole storyline is there outside of some Night Lords action, and they've been done.
In my mind and the way everything sits/reads... you have 12 Legions in 3 books plus some MA. The other 6 Legions should easily be covered in the next 3 books plus other armies/xenos/demons/etc they want to cover. After that there could be 3 to 6 more books that are much more story/scenario driven providing alternate rules/configurations/models for Terra/Post-Terra engagements.
I think the "10 year" plan has more to do with getting every single miniature out that they want to make.
2014/04/14 12:21:42
Subject: Re:Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - Open Day coverage (Knight Lancer and more, pg 43)
Tannhauser42 wrote: I think the Cadians would do well for an Imperial Army force anyway. They all look like they're wearing a very standardized, mass-produced, and decently high-tech armor with standard weaponry. Just the sort of thing to be produced in massive quantities during the Great Crusade.
Cadians with the hazardous environment stuff from FW is on my "maybe, someday!" list!
Spoilered just in case people haven't read the HH series.
Spoiler:
It's been a while since I read those HH books, and I've sold the books so I can't go recheck, but I believe the DA were fighting the nightlords. They chased Kurze around for awhile, then had their big champion and primarchs face off, then the night lords withdrew. I think the DA engaged some sons of Horus marines on an mechanicus world and captured some really powerful tanks (ordinatus) but got mauled in the process. Sons of Horus withdrew to Istavan, at that time only the betrayal of the four were laid out, DA were after Kurze for war crimes that lion'el was going to take to the emperor. I believe the DA were supposed to head to join the fleet headed to bring Horus down, but his army was so mauled that he said "you other 7 legions can handle it, I'm going home to lick my wounds." The iron warriors were nearby so Lion'el handed the ordinatus over to them to use against the traitors at Istavan. Peterbo was all like "Thanks brother we'll make sure these super powered weapons get good use on istivan , sorry you couldn't be there, but we'll catch up to you later ." I was taken back by how the supreme tactician that Lion'el was supposed to be kept getting his but out thought and out maneuvered by the others , maybe that's why half his legion later turns on him
So I could see a book with
Signus prime/other conflicts being: blood angels, daemons, Dark Angels, night lords, iron warriors, mechanicus with BA, DA and daemons getting the limelight and the others getting fleshed out more.
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I'm not quite up to date with the novels but doesn't the justification for Dorn getting his own ride (repeated attempts on his life) contradict what Horus says to Erebus in Nemesis (that Horus doesn't want to use assassins)?
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I'm sure I read in an interview at some point that the Forge World HH book series were all going to focus on marines vs marines, so I just don't believe a BA-daemon conflict is likely to make it in. Perhaps if they played up the Word Bearers' involvement a bit, maybe.
Signus prime was blood angels fighting deamons, the deamons are using the signus system as a beachhead into the material universe and are attempting to corrupt the blood angels at erebus and horus's wishes, lorgar thinks this is doomed to fail, there is a small contingent of word bearers sent to "push" things along the right path, there is also a space wolves assassination sqaud sent to "watch" each of the primarchs incase they rebel upon hearing the news of prospero being destroyed, these were also sent to ultramar and received a cold welcome from guiliman, another sent to the alpha legion and that ended with the death of alpharius, alpharius then hunts down the assassination sqaud and kills them off.
The underworld war or thramas crusade as its also known is between the dark angels and the night lords, the war is practically a stalemate until a parlay is called between lion and curze, this ends with the wounding of both primarchs, lion then hears that a world he conquered is being fought over by the ironhands and the death guard, he takes a few of his lads to go deal with it, long story short he takes a piece of tech that is capable of transporting and entire fleet to the warp and back without the need for gellar fields or warp engines, it also calms the warp in its immediate vicinity, lion uses this tech to surprise attack the near entirety of the night lords fleet, breaking there back so it's said, he also cripples curze into a coma, the night Lords then split into splinter fleets to attacks where they please, this leads to unremebered empire.
So if the next hhfw book is signus prime then we will have, blood angels, deamons, space wolves(possibly) and word bearers (possibly), that would cover half the book quite nicely, as extermination showed us however it's quite easy to show more than just one part of the war in a book, so we can easily have the thramas crusade and the legions that are involved, so dark angels, night lords, iron hands, death guard and to a lesser extent mechanicum, this combined with the signus war would fill up the next fw book quite nicely.
Formosa wrote: ..there is also a space wolves assassination sqaud sent to "watch" each of the primarchs incase they rebel upon hearing the news of prospero being destroyed, these were also sent to ultramar and received a cold welcome from guiliman, another sent to the alpha legion and that ended with the death of alpharius, alpharius then hunts down the assassination sqaud and kills them off.
Bull0 wrote: Yeah, there's *one* squad of space wolves and *one* squad of word bearers. Too insignificant to base a FWHH book on, unless they sex it up a bit.
Sounds like an exorbitantly priced limited edition novella to me if anything! :(
2014/04/14 18:38:06
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - Open Day coverage (Knight Lancer and more, pg 43)
At least that's what I get putting together the hints from all over.
If it goes down like that (sure hope it does) I'd end up getting all 3 books. I'm not sure what DA have to do with Signus Prime, though, unless you just mean they'd maybe try and cover two conflicts in that book (I find that doubtful but I'm no expert)
Trouble with Signus Prime is there are like... 5 word bearers there, and otherwise it's all blood angels fighting daemon things, I'm not sure how well that fits in to the HH book series. I haven't got my hopes up that they'll cover it at all, tbh.
I think you just laided out why people are expecting the Blood Angel book to cover some other smaller conflicts. Signus Prime was just BA Vs. Deamons. Along with the 5 word bearers their was a squad of Space Wolves booping around, but hardly a reason to realy cover either of thows two legions.
Haveing a side story covering another legion that we may not get to for some time like the Dark Angels or White Scars will help it to appeal to and interest more then just Blood Angels and Deamon players who want get involved in 30k gameing.
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Well no matter how they slice it, there's only 6 Legions left to do.
Considering they've been doing 4 per book so far, I don't see them cutting down beyond 2 per the next 3 books. If they do, they will have to pack something else in those books.
My money is on them throwing in other things like IG, Demons, Xenos, Dark Mech, etc.
2014/04/14 19:14:51
Subject: Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - Open Day coverage (Knight Lancer and more, pg 43)
At least that's what I get putting together the hints from all over.
If it goes down like that (sure hope it does) I'd end up getting all 3 books. I'm not sure what DA have to do with Signus Prime, though, unless you just mean they'd maybe try and cover two conflicts in that book (I find that doubtful but I'm no expert)
Trouble with Signus Prime is there are like... 5 word bearers there, and otherwise it's all blood angels fighting daemon things, I'm not sure how well that fits in to the HH book series. I haven't got my hopes up that they'll cover it at all, tbh.
I think you just laided out why people are expecting the Blood Angel book to cover some other smaller conflicts. Signus Prime was just BA Vs. Deamons. Along with the 5 word bearers their was a squad of Space Wolves booping around, but hardly a reason to realy cover either of thows two legions.
Haveing a side story covering another legion that we may not get to for some time like the Dark Angels or White Scars will help it to appeal to and interest more then just Blood Angels and Deamon players who want get involved in 30k gameing.
Agreed. Wasn't the rumor that Signus would be BA vs Daemons and DA vs others (Night Lords?)
Space Wolves and White Scars vs Alpha Legion would also seem to be a good addition to bulk out a book. (See Scars novel)
Formosa wrote: ..there is also a space wolves assassination sqaud sent to "watch" each of the primarchs incase they rebel upon hearing the news of prospero being destroyed, these were also sent to ultramar and received a cold welcome from guiliman, another sent to the alpha legion and that ended with the death of alpharius, alpharius then hunts down the assassination sqaud and kills them off.
Huh?
Where does this all happen?
It happens in the Hunter's Moon audio short. But not really. "Real" Alpharius is most certainly not killed.
Additionally, they're not really "coldly" received by Guilliman at all; in fact, Guilliman jokes with them quite a bit.
Not sure if this really counts as a piece of 'news' or a 'rumour - But Forgeworld have got this up as one of their flashes:
Can we then assume that the HH is taking a temporary backfoot for some new IG stuff (Possibly corresponding with GW's latest releases?) or possibly there could be some releases in conjunction with HH stuff?. I don't have any specifics, but I thought it was interesting in it's own right considering it breaks the trend of the almost exclusively HH content these days. I should clarify I'm not speculating on this - I'm neither for nor against IG releases at the moment.
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I wouldn't expect anything though. The picture is just an old one from IA12, and there was nothing even hinted at during their open day recently. We might get updates to match the new codex, but it's probably just a "look, we make IG models too!" banner.
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, maybe that's why half his legion later turns on him
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