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The knight titan looks amazing - and I am sure (as the others) wil have poor rules - poor in the fact they are so good that either I will be embarrassed to play them, or that other players will have negative reactions to them (similar to the draft rules of the xv107 - which later got nerfed appropriately).

The nid thing....looks rushed. Clearly the lower portion of the body (from the pic we have) looks very out of place. I think they were maybe trying to make a very fast bug?

Hopefully its rules are not poor - as many other tyranid fw models (unlike the tasty knights, the nid fw models are poor bad... you play the fw nids inspite of the rules, not because of them).

Vulkan looks pretty good as well.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Snrub wrote:

Daston wrote:
I personally see a lot of Xenomorph queen in the Dimachaeron big head, thin legs massive tail

Glad I wasn't the only one to get that vibe off it.

I guess I'll just be alone in my corner then...

You are hardly alone, it looks nothing like the Queen. Especially since GW and FW already release Queen Hive Tyrant models and I am glad that FW finally took it's kit off the market. They should have dropped it about 5 years ago.



This new Nid looks like a very bad conversion of Tyrant Guard, a Hive Tyrant, and the bottom of a bitz box with an extra 3 inches of height crammed in it in order to justify the 85 pound price tag. It's height is added without actually adding more to the model so I am left to assume that it was to justify the price tag. It defiantly needs converting right out of the box and that's just unacceptable. I wanted to like the new model but it

As far as stats go, I bet it's on par with other FW Tyranids. That is to say I am willing to bet its stat line is a mix of the lower stats of a hive tyrant and a fex, it has some near useless special rule, it is designed for CC while somehow being outright bad in CC, its limited and largely lackluster upgrades are overpriced, and it costs about 35% more points than it should. But what will hurt it the most is that it will be crammed into a roll that it not only doesn't fit into but that roll is preformed significantly better by other Tyranids.

We all know that Tyranids are very out of favor with GW and FW but this model really seems to just rub it into Tyranid players faces. When the target audience is openly hoping that FW messed up on the initial photo, that is a very bad sign. Then, to top it all off, FW has the audacity to show this model off next to three equally as new but substantially better looking kits. It is as if they are actively trying to make it look bad. I see the new Tyranid kit as a new low in FW design and presentation, both are awful. I fully expected to spend $600 to $800 on this Tyranid update and am only missing a Harridan model before I own every Tyranid model in the current GW/FW line. I would finally fill in gaps in my collection, get some nice FW updates, and hopefully see my Tyranids re-energized. However, not only does it not entice me to buy the kit, but it actually puts me off buying more Tyranid models from FW.

 Kwosge wrote:
You are hardly alone, it looks nothing like the Queen.

Did either me or Daston say it "looks" like the Xenomorpth queen? No.
We were merely saying that it has a passing resemblance to the Xenomorph queen. Stop putting words in peoples mouths.

Especially since GW and FW already release Queen Hive Tyrant models and I am glad that FW finally took it's kit off the market. They should have dropped it about 5 years ago.

When did FW ever produce a Dominatrix?

 Snrub wrote:

Especially since GW and FW already release Queen Hive Tyrant models and I am glad that FW finally took it's kit off the market. They should have dropped it about 5 years ago.

When did FW ever produce a Dominatrix?

They didn't, they made a hive tyrant that looked a bit like the Xenomorph queen.

Oh.

To clarify, FW released bigger (and better) versions of GW's 3rd Ed Hive Tyrant, a model that bore a striking resemblance to the Queen Alien from Aliens. Therefore, being based upon that initial design, the FW Tyrants looked like the Alien Queen.

Do you have a picture of one? I did an image search for "FW hive tyrant" but I'm not quite sure what I should be looking for.




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Wait is it this one?

Or this one.

I use the old gw hive tyrants as warrior primes. They are a tiny bit big but really stand out from other tyranid warriors.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/IRON_HANDS_LEGION_GORGON_TERMINATORS.html

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/EMPERORS_CHILDREN_LEGION_TRANSFER_SHEET.html

Now they're pretty Terminators.

While I like the terminators, those have a distinct lack of bionic parts . Looking at the base iron hands guys in power armor you can tell they have replaced legs and arms, here you could paint the guys any color you wanted and just call them Cog Zealots or something.

 Theophony wrote:
... those have a distinct lack of bionic parts...

How can you tell? They're encased in armour. Wouldn't make much sense to have a suit of advanced Terminator armour that's exposed with bionics.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
... those have a distinct lack of bionic parts...

How can you tell? They're encased in armour. Wouldn't make much sense to have a suit of advanced Terminator armour that's exposed with bionics.

Look at iron hands mkIII squads in power armor. You can see the bionic knee joints, the bionic "iron Hands". The flesh needs heavier armor to protect it, the bionics would need less.

I guess If I wanted to make a legion of bionic super troopers I just want there to be something different looking than regular super troopers.

The active words in the above would be "power armour". This is meant to be some sort of better suit of Terminator Armour, so much so that the whole suit is basically a type of bionic.

It's not like it has ever in any way made sense to leave bionic limbs on marines exposed, when they could be in armor. It's purely rule of cool/WYSIWYG aesthetics to set Iron Hands and marines with bionic upgrades apart. So yeah, they probably should have included some bionic bits on these guys.

Oh my, finally some more Cataphractii-style Terminators I actually like! The only others that appeal to me are the Emperor's Children ones.

I greatly approve of their lack of exposed bionic bits. It never made any sense for them to leave their bionics exposed.

Those termies look gorgeous! It pains me that I don't have the time nor money to start a pre-Heresy army. :|

I want those Gorgon Terminators...

Oh boy!!!!!!! More Terminator variants! I wonder what Forge world will release next!!! : ))))))))

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
Oh my, finally some more Cataphractii-style Terminators I actually like! The only others that appeal to me are the Emperor's Children ones.

I greatly approve of their lack of exposed bionic bits. It never made any sense for them to leave their bionics exposed.

They're wearing prototype Indomitus (normal 40k pattern) TDA, not Cataphractii.

Not a huge IH fan but they are gorgeous though, love the shoulder pads. Imagine there are quite a few EC fans celebrating right now...

Once again, Forge World's paintjobs are letting them down!

 Marshal Loss wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
Oh my, finally some more Cataphractii-style Terminators I actually like! The only others that appeal to me are the Emperor's Children ones.

I greatly approve of their lack of exposed bionic bits. It never made any sense for them to leave their bionics exposed.

They're wearing prototype Indomitus (normal 40k pattern) TDA, not Cataphractii.

Not a huge IH fan but they are gorgeous though, love the shoulder pads. Imagine there are quite a few EC fans celebrating right now...

That's why I said style. Most of the Forge World Terminators have small helmets partially obscured by the armour, and it usually makes them look a bit silly (Cataphractii armour is the worst culprit for this). That said, these just seem to have shortened Indomitus-style helmets to accommodate a gorget. I like it!

Gorgon terminators are not wearing prototype Indomitus-pattern TDA, the Indomitus was already put into service across the Legions (primarily by the Imperial Fists) during the closing years of the Great Crusade.

Gorgon-Pattern TDA is a prototype all of it's own, one of many ongoing attempts by Ferrus Manus to refine and improve the preformance of TDA since he was not satisfied with the preformance of the Cataphractii, Tartaros, Saturnine and Indomitus patterns.

 Alpharius wrote:
Once again, Forge World's paintjobs are letting them down!

That's a major understatement. Can't believe how badly they are painted. Looks like a first time painter's attempt: one color and some silver trim...

These paintjobs are brutal. At this point, I think should just show the unpainted models, since it seems that the studio painters are a bunch of no talent teenage kids. Damn, I'm not a really good painter, but I could definitely paint better than this gak(which fittingly enough has a rich brown color)

streetsamurai wrote:These paintjobs are brutal. At this point, I think should just show the unpainted models, since it seems that the studio painters are a bunch of no talent teenage kids. Damn, I'm not a really good painter, but I could definitely paint better than this gak(which fittingly enough has a rich brown color)

They're usually always there, you just have to look for them a little bit!

Alpharius wrote:

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Once again, Forge World's paintjobs are letting them down!

Ugh. Those Iron Hands terminators make me want to start a HH Army, but nobody in the area plays HH. Also looking forward to what they do for Dark Angels, so I can expand on my already too large DA force. Haha

Hey more guys suffering from head in chest syndrome. When will they start raising heads/lowering the shoulders on these things? They have strange gates too, looks like they road bare back to get to battle

I wouldn't be this critical except these are expensive luxury minis in an already expensive HHHobby.

Could someone explain to me whats wrong with the paint job on those terminators? It looks great to me, but then again I don't really see a whole lot of 30k in my area.