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 Jaceevoke wrote:
Could someone explain to me whats wrong with the paint job on those terminators? It looks great to me, but then again I don't really see a whole lot of 30k in my area.

Probably because people think that if it's not the quality of some guy who wins awards it's bad.

Not that I care. I think that looks great. Iron Hands are a boring color scheme(glossed black armor with the hands picked out in silver, trim done in silver, and the Iron Hands iconography picked out in white. Add to it a black bolter casing and silver bolter detailing and it's...boring beyond belief), but they managed to get a bit more depth to it. Glossed black armor would have a sheen to it that the bolter and axe parts would not necessarily have...which is actually really evident in this photo. The brown tint you're seeing is the glossed pigment on the black armor.

No. It is more that the paint job doesn't do a good job at showcasing the model, and all the detail on it.

FW do a really good job at photographing their unpainted resins.

That's what they should really put 'front and center'.

Agreed, I really like the style (most of the time), but it tends to be better for a whole army or vehicles, and on individual models it tends to lose detail etc. b/c of how much it ignores strong highlighting

It's unfortunate that they'll need a little work to have good proportions. I think a bit of abdomen extending would to the trick, though.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
It's unfortunate that they'll need a little work to have good proportions. I think a bit of abdomen extending would to the trick, though.

The terminators? How come? They look great the way they are! I wish forge world would do more Xenos!

Their bodies are too short. Their heads are too close to their hips.

 Alpharius wrote:

streetsamurai wrote:These paintjobs are brutal. At this point, I think should just show the unpainted models, since it seems that the studio painters are a bunch of no talent teenage kids. Damn, I'm not a really good painter, but I could definitely paint better than this gak(which fittingly enough has a rich brown color)

They're usually always there, you just have to look for them a little bit!

Alpharius wrote:

Spoiler:

Once again, Forge World's paintjobs are letting them down!

yeah I know. what I meant is that they should jut stop showing them painted, or at the very least, put the unpainted version on the center stage, I<d much rather have more close ups of the unpainted mini, than close ups of the horribly painted ones, which makes most of the detail invisible, since it seems that theyr painting methods consist of dipping them in pots of paint. >

what the hell is going on with their backs?


almost looks like there's a part missing - looks like something should fit up in there?

those little flappy bits are just asking to snap off in the post

 streetsamurai wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

streetsamurai wrote:These paintjobs are brutal. At this point, I think should just show the unpainted models, since it seems that the studio painters are a bunch of no talent teenage kids. Damn, I'm not a really good painter, but I could definitely paint better than this gak(which fittingly enough has a rich brown color)

They're usually always there, you just have to look for them a little bit!

Alpharius wrote:

Spoiler:

Once again, Forge World's paintjobs are letting them down!

yeah I know. what I meant is that they should jut stop showing them painted, or at the very least, put the unpainted version on the center stage, I<d much rather have more close ups of the unpainted mini, than close ups of the horribly painted ones, which makes most of the detail invisible, since it seems that theyr painting methods consist of dipping them in pots of paint. >

i could not disagree with you more...

i think the paintjob on the Gorgons looks great...
a few subtle color shifts, and some nice weathering...

Forge World showcases good solid paint work, as far as i'm concerned...
some of it is even inspiring...

cheers
jah

They need better paintings to show off the quality of the sculpts. They seem to want to show them off at an about tabletop standard which makes sense, it's really doesn't show off how crisp and sharp the details of FW minis can be. Not to mention it's just a pleasure to see above average paintings on new minis.

 Nicky J wrote:
those little flappy bits are just asking to snap off in the post

Oh yeah. If anyone gets a set with those things intact I'd be surprised.

They might be separate and need to be glued on/in. That'd stop them breaking off.

Really dig these as legion-appropriate terminators -- just blocks of metal. Almost no decoration, even for the (relatively) sparse 30K sets.

Paint job I'm torn on. I recognize the issues, but at the same time I like seeing paint jobs that seem more like what armor might be painted like, rather than tests of skill for the studio painter.

If they just lead with the resin photos I think we'd all be happy

 Nicky J wrote:
what the hell is going on with their backs?

Ferrus Mannus was unsatisfied with the other variants of TDA. He wanted to build a better shot trap.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Jaceevoke wrote:
Could someone explain to me whats wrong with the paint job on those terminators? It looks great to me, but then again I don't really see a whole lot of 30k in my area.

Probably because people think that if it's not the quality of some guy who wins awards it's bad.

Pretty much. It started out as reasonable criticism of a kit that looked like kind of a rush job and made the models look worse than they really were, but since then "FW suck at painting" turned into one of those annoying forum memes where you get idiotic comments like "looks like a first time painter's attempt" because it's the cool thing to say. By any objective standard they're at least high-end tabletop quality, even if they won't be winning any big painting contests.

A second factor is possibly the fact that FW uses a more subdued and realistic style instead of GW's catalog pictures full of bright colors and extreme highlighting, or the popular "painting contest" style with NMM/dramatic shading/freehand everywhere/etc where a model's quality is judged by how many "advanced painting techniques" you can fit onto it. So a lot of people confuse a deliberate choice to use a simple paint scheme with a lack of talent to do anything better.

I think FW paint schemes are very well done, I especially love the AL scheme, and the Gorgons are well painted, I just think they don't show off the models especially well, as I really didn't like these till I saw the bare resin.

 Azazelx wrote:

 Nicky J wrote:
what the hell is going on with their backs?

Ferrus Mannus was unsatisfied with the other variants of TDA. He wanted to build a better shot trap.

no no, it helps them connect with the main body of voltron

 Nicky J wrote:
what the hell is going on with their backs?


almost looks like there's a part missing - looks like something should fit up in there?

those little flappy bits are just asking to snap off in the post

It almost looks like the goal was to put armour around the heat vents without diminishing their ability to vent by blocking the air flow. However, the voltron comment may also be true...

Noc

YAY more preheresy marines! Its not like we don't have enough

HOLY gak IM EXCITED

Back to Tyranids, has there been any indication yet on when the book/new bug will be available to order?

ATXMILEY wrote:
YAY more preheresy marines! Its not like we don't have enough

HOLY gak IM EXCITED

actually, we don't have enough, but once they have covered all 18 chapters, then your sarcasm will be valid...

plus, they just showed a new bug coming, and released a dinosaur, what like six months ago???
you people should be stoked to get a non-Marine release every six month...
hahahahaha...

i'm off to paint some Marines!!!

cheers
jah

Re: FW's paint jobs, I think the reason that most people dislike it is that it is very gritty and war torn unlike GW models. I actually use the exact same paint techniques myself and it is quite nice to look at their models and think to myself "I could actually do that!"

The only problem is that the painters don't pay enough attention to edges on the armour thus making everything look very flat. However as long as there are unpainted pics I'm not really bothered how they paint their stuff!

 Commander Cain wrote:
Re: FW's paint jobs, I think the reason that most people dislike it is that it is very gritty and war torn unlike GW models. I actually use the exact same paint techniques myself and it is quite nice to look at their models and think to myself "I could actually do that!"

The only problem is that the painters don't pay enough attention to edges on the armour thus making everything look very flat. However as long as there are unpainted pics I'm not really bothered how they paint their stuff!

I think that's really the biggest issue. Their paint schemes, which I feel are very good, don't tend to highlight the typical quality of detail in sculpting Forgeworld models are known for.

 Accolade wrote:

 Commander Cain wrote:
Re: FW's paint jobs, I think the reason that most people dislike it is that it is very gritty and war torn unlike GW models. I actually use the exact same paint techniques myself and it is quite nice to look at their models and think to myself "I could actually do that!"

The only problem is that the painters don't pay enough attention to edges on the armour thus making everything look very flat. However as long as there are unpainted pics I'm not really bothered how they paint their stuff!

I think that's really the biggest issue. Their paint schemes, which I feel are very good, don't tend to highlight the typical quality of detail in sculpting Forgeworld models are known for.

Yes, exactly.

That's the 'problem', if there is, in fact, one.

The only problem I have with FW's painting is that they like to go for the weathered, battleworn look. I've never really been a big fan of that painting style, as I much prefer clean, almost "parade ready" paintjobs.

 jifel wrote:
Back to Tyranids, has there been any indication yet on when the book/new bug will be available to order?

Did they mention anywhere if they would release it before Gencon(August 14th)?

 jah-joshua wrote:

ATXMILEY wrote:
YAY more preheresy marines! Its not like we don't have enough

HOLY gak IM EXCITED

actually, we don't have enough, but once they have covered all 18 chapters, then your sarcasm will be valid...

plus, they just showed a new bug coming, and released a dinosaur, what like six months ago???
you people should be stoked to get a non-Marine release every six month...
hahahahaha...

i'm off to paint some Marines!!!

cheers
jah

18 legions, but even then i doubt they will stop. Horus Heresy/Great Crusade is just too much of a money maker, though i wish they'd started the books on Murder (FW wise that is)

Is anyone going to the 40k open day today? If so, please get some photos of the new imperial armour book and the nid beasty!

Found them on Warseer:

Raven Guard!