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 pretre wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
May?

GW's just having a rough month. They still love me. If I wasn't so bad, they wouldn't have to hurt me so much.

Seriously, P. If you'd just stop nagging GW so much, it wouldn't get flustered and loose its cool

In all seriousness though, I REALLY hope we get to see some infantry models (Havoks, Chosen, whatever) done in the really awesome Dark Vengeance style. I was hoping for that back before the extremely disappointing hell-chicken release wave. Hopefully they can get it right this time (not holding my breath though, especially given then murkiness of these rumours).

-C6

 Red Viper wrote:
Warmachine has tier lists which are basically theme lists for each Warcaster.

Yeah, well, that is not what I would call fluffy list.
Let us take some precise example, my own Warmachine list. I use Gunnbjorn, with a list that is both Tier 4 and fluffy :
- Gunnbjorn
- Dire Troll Blitzer
- Dire Troll Blitzer
- Dire Troll Bomber
- 5 whelps
- 10 pygmy burrowers
- 10 pygmy bushwackers
- 5 trollkin sluggers
- trollkin thumper crew
- trollkin thumper crew
This force is T4 because all my warbeast and units have ranged weapons, I have two thumper crew, and three heavy warbeasts. It is fluffy, because it is full of trolls with modern, powder weapons, the kind of progressive trolls that would like to join Gunnbjorn. Now, if I was to use instead some mountain king, swamp trolls, and fell callers, it would still be T4, but it would be way less fluffy. On the other hand, if I was to add a war wagon, which is a fluffy as it gets (my progressive gun-crazed warlock getting a brand new huge tracked cannon with an auxiliary smaller gun seems fluffy to me ), it would stupidly just break the tier list. I won't even be T1…

 pretre wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
May?

GW's just having a rough month. They still love me. If I wasn't so bad, they

would release plastic sisters !
(Fixed that for you )

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

pretre wrote:GW's just having a rough month. They still love me. If I wasn't so bad, they

would release plastic sisters !
(Fixed that for you )

I should have just gotten GW's beer quicker. It was my fault really... :(

 pretre wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

pretre wrote:GW's just having a rough month. They still love me. If I wasn't so bad, they

would release plastic sisters !
(Fixed that for you )

I should have just gotten GW's beer quicker. It was my fault really... :(

And made it a sammich.

For heavy weapons, the best "bits service" for that right now is oddly enough... Forgeworld?!

I know, crazy.

It's about $18 bucks (11 GBP) to get a 10-set of any legion special weapon (plasma, flamer, melta) or one of each of the legion Heavy weapons.

Considering they are chaos marines and therefore in older armor anyway, the legions power weapons set backpacks fit just fine on chaos dudes. Unfortunately it's still 1 of each rather than being packs of 4 of just one type at a time, but still just buying those and packages of chaos (or even loyalist) marines is a significantly better prospect at least to me than dealing with the craptastic Havoc finecast set.

The funny thing is Chaos Havocs spamming nothing but rocket launchers are a fairly necessary unit as they are probably the best Anti-Air unit in the entire codex.