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Won't work. Since your wishy washy government think that suppressors work like they do in the movies you would end up deaf, therefor unable to hear the film anyway.

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It took them this long to ducktape two guns one another

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 the shrouded lord wrote:
If I want a twin-linked gun I'l glue two pistols together and route it to one trigger, (including grip)

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Thats looks epic stupid.

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The purpose is to get around the law against automatic weapons by making a gun that shoots multiple bullets not with a single trigger pull.


Except that it doesn't. As noted in the article, he is going to have to make a double trigger setup for us peasants. Don't confuse what can be sold between FFL holders and to .gov/.mil as what everyone can buy. As far as this goes the slidefire stocks and similar items are an order of magnitude more useful, and they ain't useful for much.

In other words, you have to yank a trigger 40-60-80 times to get 40-60-80 rounds, except with the weight of a second rifle that is almost definitely a more complicated and less reliable weapon than a vanilla AR. The only advantage I could possibly see this thing having over a redi-mag is that you don't have to take a whole second or two to jam the second mag in, and you simply start squeezing a second trigger. It does look cool though. I guess.
   
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Gilboa’s Double-Barreled AR-15, The “Snake,” Makes its American Debut
By Nick Leghorn on January 17, 2014

When this rifle first came into the public eye, we were less than enthusiastic. It seemed like a gimmick, and to be honest that’s how it started — they needed a “show stopper” for a military trade show. But instead of just being an interesting engineering product, Gilboa is going into full production right here in the United States to put these on the shelves and in the hands of American shooters . . .

Since the ATF defines a “machine gun” as any firearm that fires multiple rounds with the pull of a single trigger, Gilboa is re-designing the rifle to have two individual triggers instead of the single trigger setup currently being used. We’ve been promised one will be on its way to TTAG command central for a test as soon as it’s ready, and we’ll let you know how it works.

In the meantime, imagine this: running a 3-gun stage with this double-barreled AR-15, Arsenal’s double-barreled 1911, and a side by side coach gun. Wouldn’t that be a thing?


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From the article itself.

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LOL silly ATF...

still havnt figured out that shot guns, or any shot carttride shoots multiple projectiles with one trigger squeeze...

or that most 1880 style shotguns I can empty the whole magazine of shot shells with one press of the trigger, simply by slam firing each time I rack it..

 
   
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 whembly wrote:
 the shrouded lord wrote:
If I want a twin-linked gun I'l glue two pistols together and route it to one trigger, (including grip)

Like this!

Very want.

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Government tested them in the past... really were not all that effective, the recoil of using both barrels was greater than that of an m1 garand so they droped the idea

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Farmers have long known you need to twin link your shotguns, bunnies and tresspassers don't deserve a second chance.

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 Seaward wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
The purpose is to get around the law against automatic weapons by making a gun that shoots multiple bullets not with a single trigger pull.

No. This doesn't suddenly give you the functionality of an automatic weapon. Nowhere, nowhere, nowhere close to it. So circumventing that law could hardly be the goal.


the original post wrote:Since the ATF defines a “machine gun” as any firearm that fires multiple rounds with the pull of a single trigger, Gilboa is re-designing the rifle to have two individual triggers instead of the single trigger setup currently being used.

I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

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 Grey Templar wrote:
I wonder what the possibilities are for this to be a useful suppression weapon. Normally you've just got regular LMGs but its still only one barrel. 2 barrels might have greater suppression capabilities while also being on a smaller weapon.

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 Ouze wrote:
 whembly wrote:
I want it.

Is that bad?


I'm holding out for the version with no stock - pistol grips only and 5 inch barrels, for concealability.


IIRC there IS a double barreled 1911 floating around the web somewhere...
   
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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
IIRC there IS a double barreled 1911 floating around the web somewhere...


So there is.




So, maybe this double barrelled rifle isn't the stupidest thing ever? Maybe it's tied for this.

Also, I kept cringing every time this guy kept pointing the gun at his head.




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man, so much potential to jam. Especially with the rounds basically sharing a chamber while ejecting.

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 the shrouded lord wrote:
 whembly wrote:
 the shrouded lord wrote:
If I want a twin-linked gun I'l glue two pistols together and route it to one trigger, (including grip)

Like this!

Very want.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
 Seaward wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
The purpose is to get around the law against automatic weapons by making a gun that shoots multiple bullets not with a single trigger pull.

No. This doesn't suddenly give you the functionality of an automatic weapon. Nowhere, nowhere, nowhere close to it. So circumventing that law could hardly be the goal.


the original post wrote:Since the ATF defines a “machine gun” as any firearm that fires multiple rounds with the pull of a single trigger, Gilboa is re-designing the rifle to have two individual triggers instead of the single trigger setup currently being used.

Yes, I'm familiar with what the ATF defines a "machine gun" as.

I'm also familiar with what an "automatic weapon" is. A gun that shoots two rounds instead of one when you pull the trigger is not an automatic weapon. I wouldn't even define it as a burst-fire weapon, because the rounds aren't sequential. This does not come remotely close to duplicating automatic capability.
   
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 Seaward wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
 Seaward wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
The purpose is to get around the law against automatic weapons by making a gun that shoots multiple bullets not with a single trigger pull.

No. This doesn't suddenly give you the functionality of an automatic weapon. Nowhere, nowhere, nowhere close to it. So circumventing that law could hardly be the goal.


the original post wrote:Since the ATF defines a “machine gun” as any firearm that fires multiple rounds with the pull of a single trigger, Gilboa is re-designing the rifle to have two individual triggers instead of the single trigger setup currently being used.

Yes, I'm familiar with what the ATF defines a "machine gun" as.

I'm also familiar with what an "automatic weapon" is. A gun that shoots two rounds instead of one when you pull the trigger is not an automatic weapon. I wouldn't even define it as a burst-fire weapon, because the rounds aren't sequential. This does not come remotely close to duplicating automatic capability.


Firearms scholars like this guy thrive on the half-informed:


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 Kilkrazy wrote:
The purpose is to get around the law against automatic weapons by making a gun that shoots multiple bullets not with a single trigger pull.


There is a law against Automatic weapons?


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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
IIRC there IS a double barreled 1911 floating around the web somewhere...


So there is.




So, maybe this double barrelled rifle isn't the stupidest thing ever? Maybe it's tied for this.

Also, I kept cringing every time this guy kept pointing the gun at his head.





I have seen a double barrel bolt action rifle that fires both barrels with a single trigger pull, but its a bolt action.

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It's from Predator.

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 Spacemanvic wrote:
 Seaward wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
 Seaward wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
The purpose is to get around the law against automatic weapons by making a gun that shoots multiple bullets not with a single trigger pull.

No. This doesn't suddenly give you the functionality of an automatic weapon. Nowhere, nowhere, nowhere close to it. So circumventing that law could hardly be the goal.


the original post wrote:Since the ATF defines a “machine gun” as any firearm that fires multiple rounds with the pull of a single trigger, Gilboa is re-designing the rifle to have two individual triggers instead of the single trigger setup currently being used.

Yes, I'm familiar with what the ATF defines a "machine gun" as.

I'm also familiar with what an "automatic weapon" is. A gun that shoots two rounds instead of one when you pull the trigger is not an automatic weapon. I wouldn't even define it as a burst-fire weapon, because the rounds aren't sequential. This does not come remotely close to duplicating automatic capability.


Firearms scholars like this guy thrive on the half-informed:





Oh that guy..... I watched that video the other night,at least as much as I could stomach.
   
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