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2014/01/24 02:26:59
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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I really hope this happens, and I hope the model turns out to be a nice looking one with options to build a few of the Knight types.
Also, it is going to be fun to watch Platuan4th react to people calling them....you know...
 Moopy wrote:I believe the Knight titian rumor- they played a huge part in the HH Mars rebellion.
Ha!
Platuan4th!
Paging Platuan4th - STAT! 
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2014/01/24 03:13:16
Subject: Re:40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Infiltrating Prowler
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For those curious as to what they may looking like, here were the original Epic Imperial Models:
Note that is the old Warhound titan at the top on the second image.
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2014/01/24 03:28:11
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I much prefer the post-Titan legions updated Errant/Crusader/Lancer/Paladins to the original versions.
Assuming this rumour is true, and I hope it is, if there's any justice in the world the GW kit will allow for 2-3 different types of Knight (a Paladin and then hopefully something like an Errant or Crusader). I got my 15mm Crusader Leviathans/Mortis' for this specific reason, and to have official rules would be great.
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2014/01/24 03:29:49
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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I can see a kit that would build a Paladin/Baron and maybe a Crusader?
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2014/01/24 03:37:41
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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I wonder if GW will learn from it's mistakes or if it will give them two D weapons and tell people to take them in units of 1-3 in regular 40k games (without opponent's permission) for only 150 points each.
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 Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
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2014/01/24 03:39:56
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I hope so. Then people'd shut up about Riptides.
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2014/01/24 04:46:12
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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If the rules aren't buried in a never to be reprinted White Dwarf then I hope Dreamforged is bracing for a lot of Crusader sales.
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2014/01/24 04:56:40
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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I'm not on NogginJournal, someone do us a favour and ask 40K Radio if there's going to be another round of fluff-buggery with these? And in case they try their "hurr durr you ask rong kweshtuns lulz" shtick again this time round, to be specific: are there still Knight households/orders? Are they still associated with the Mechanicus? If they are changing the fluff, are we talking Black Templars level retcons, or Iron Hands post-supplement level retcons?
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
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2014/01/24 05:03:12
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Prices on this are gonna be loooool.
Also Lexicanum is a pretty good source on Knights if people want to know what they're all about
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Knight#.UuHz7BAo6Uk
Eldar also used to operate Knights as well
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Eldar_Knight#.UuH0GhAo6Uk
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My Armies:
5,500pts 
2,700pts 
2,000pts 
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2014/01/24 05:07:26
Subject: Re:40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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If GW releases a plastic knight titan, I can already see FW going crazy releasing conversion kits for them to sell to HH gamers. The HH rule books mention knights mutiple times in the fluff parts.
I assumed they were going to be a resin kit this whole time... But if GW was planning a plastic kit, then i guess that explains why FW hasn't done them yet. From what's hinted at I expect them to be super heavy walkers with Flare Shields as described or simular to the rules found in the 1st HH book.
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2014/01/24 06:38:45
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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I wrote a while back in the 'What do you expect for the new IG codex' that if an Imperial Knight wasn't included it would be financially a mistake of gigantic proportions and yet another opportunity squandered.
Looks like even GW can't be that stupid. If the model is good I might even buy a few, and a couple thousand points of army to go with them.
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2014/01/24 06:54:58
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Oberstleutnant
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 pretre wrote:
I think it may be a little early to drag this bad boy out:
Jumping to conclusions or simple experience with GW's past 'improvements' to the fluff?
40K really doesn't need yet another superheavy vehicle, it doesn't even need 1. I know GW doesn't care but its simply not good for the game. If they were to re-release Epic on the other hand......
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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2014/01/24 07:37:47
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Who says the Knight is going to be a super-heavy vehicle? For all we know it could be another monstrous creature, which I'd love, they are a wee bit more durable than vehicles these days.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2014/01/24 07:43:31
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Oberstleutnant
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 BrookM wrote:Who says the Knight is going to be a super-heavy vehicle?
Because they are? Even if the were classed as a monsterous creature for some dubious reason they are still far too large to be in a 28mm game.
Modern 40k is all about the toys and thats something that I never like in a game.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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2014/01/24 09:04:29
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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The Eldar one isn't. Automatically Appended Next Post:  Medium of Death wrote:It such a weird rumour though. In terms of the Knight part, rather than the rules. No mention of the armies that can take it. Imperial armies I presume? Perhaps Chaos?
It's not that weird, given the impending Guard release, and the current push for bigger and bigger models.
I would go so far as to say it would be a little surprising if this particular rumour isn't true. Automatically Appended Next Post: pretre wrote: Kroothawk wrote:What better place to release rules for a new type of kit than in the weekly WD, that is only for sale for one week in GW stores, FLGSs and GW webshop with no chance for getting back issues after that. Well done!
Hence the reason it is unlikely and kind of a silly rumor. Either way, recent history says digital is much more likely, or even in box.
How long were Storm Raven, Ork plane and Battle Sister rules completely unavailable to anyone who didn't happen to score the relevant under-supplied White Dwarf? Automatically Appended Next Post:  OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Well with all the moaning about dataslates and other digital stuff if they do go back to WD (new) rules that then vanish into the mists of 'out of print' we only have outselves to blame
Because 'dataslate' or 'release in White Dwarf' are the only two possible ways to release new rules...
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2014/01/24 09:25:08
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Optimistic about this, the knight rumours have been floating around a while and 40k radio has a good track record so far.
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2014/01/24 09:44:50
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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2014/01/24 09:54:34
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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 insaniak wrote: How long were Storm Raven, Ork plane and Battle Sister rules completely unavailable to anyone who didn't happen to score the relevant under-supplied White Dwarf?
Just caught that one - Stormravens were in the 5th ed bangle book, they were released alongside the codex. Nobody else could take them until the 6th ed Space Marine book. It wasn't in White Dwarf. Your example does hold up though, for dakkajets, the battle sister codex, stormtalons (maybe you just meant stormtalons), etc On the under-supply thing - is WD that hard to get hold of? In the UK it's even in the supermarkets and stuff. And nobody buys it, so they always have five or six left over at the end of the month. Perhaps things are different down under (everything's different down under). They've said as part of the WD change announcements that limited back issues will be available, plus it's going to be digital, so generally I think that side of things will improve a bit. They should definitely return to the days of PDFing content like this and making it free on gw.com, but that's like asking for the moon as far as GW brass are concerned
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2014/01/24 09:57:50
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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I think Insaniak is referring to the smaller Storm Talon, which was released alongside the Ork Flyers.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2014/01/24 10:21:25
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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2014/01/24 11:04:03
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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 Bull0 wrote:Just caught that one - Stormravens were in the 5th ed bangle book, they were released alongside the codex. Nobody else could take them until the 6th ed Space Marine book. It wasn't in White Dwarf. Your example does hold up though, for dakkajets, the battle sister codex, stormtalons (maybe you just meant stormtalons), etc
Yeah, I meant the talon. Long week...
On the under-supply thing - is WD that hard to get hold of?
Around the time the flyer rules and the sisters codex came out, people were complaining about stores only receiving limited copies, or not receiving their orders at all. There were also those who don't buy White Dwarf regularly who didn't even know the rules were in there until afterwards, by which point it was too late.
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2014/01/24 11:55:33
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So, as I mentioned on the first page they did give a bit more detail on the actual podcast, seems I'm the only one who listened to it.
They said it would be for all imperial forces to take, and the model itself was about the size of a wraithknight but more bulky.
When they give out these rumours its far too detailed for wishlisting, their source obviously works for GW at some point in the supply chain, they also didnt say it would be ONLY in the weekly WD we would get rules, just that the rules would be in there.
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2014/01/24 13:55:31
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Oberstleutnant
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I think this illustrates just how little intersest I now have with 40k, there was a time I new rules for just about every unit in the game, often the stat lines as well.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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2014/01/24 14:28:54
Subject: Re:40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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 Lockark wrote:If GW releases a plastic knight titan, I can already see FW going crazy releasing conversion kits for them to sell to HH gamers. The HH rule books mention knights mutiple times in the fluff parts.
How the hell is Platuan4th not in here yet?!?!?
And good point on the potential for incredible FW add-on kits for Knights...
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2014/01/24 14:48:21
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Could be the poster child for introducing FW to the mainstream
A full plastic kit that Imperial players have to have....
but no weapon included so you have to get a FW titan weapon.
Your group/store/meta bans FW, then sorry no powerful new toy to play with
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2014/01/24 14:51:01
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Could be the poster child for introducing FW to the mainstream
A full plastic kit that Imperial players have to have....
but no weapon included so you have to get a FW titan weapon.
Your group/store/meta bans FW, then sorry no powerful new toy to play with
We already had that. It's called the "Vendetta".
Seriously. The official Vendetta kit is "Buy a Valkyrie, then order the Vendetta conversion kit from Forge World". The same thing currently exists for the Hydra Flak Tank.
With that said if we genuinely are going to see an Imperial Knight kit, you would not have the same situation happening again.
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2014/01/24 14:56:36
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 plastictrees wrote:If the rules aren't buried in a never to be reprinted White Dwarf then I hope Dreamforged is bracing for a lot of Crusader sales.
given that I believe the 28mm Crusader is pretty close to the size of a knight (right?) I suppose it would be rather foolish to expect GW to price it's knight kit similar to the crusader pricing? It better be a pretty amazing kit if they charge a pretty penny for it as I would need to really justify spending more then a crusader Automatically Appended Next Post:  Alpharius wrote: Lockark wrote:If GW releases a plastic knight titan, I can already see FW going crazy releasing conversion kits for them to sell to HH gamers. The HH rule books mention knights mutiple times in the fluff parts.
How the hell is Platuan4th not in here yet?!?!?
And good point on the potential for incredible FW add-on kits for Knights...
hes finally accepted the fact that the knight is in fact a titan....if you cant beat them...
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2014/01/24 15:14:02
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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 ironicsilence wrote: plastictrees wrote:If the rules aren't buried in a never to be reprinted White Dwarf then I hope Dreamforged is bracing for a lot of Crusader sales.
given that I believe the 28mm Crusader is pretty close to the size of a knight (right?) I suppose it would be rather foolish to expect GW to price it's knight kit similar to the crusader pricing? It better be a pretty amazing kit if they charge a pretty penny for it as I would need to really justify spending more then a crusader
Close to the size yes... but definitely on the large size though. I hope they go through with it though. Would love to have the chance to use mine more with rules that will be more widely excepted.
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2014/01/24 15:32:24
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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ironicsilence wrote:
given that I believe the 28mm Crusader is pretty close to the size of a knight (right?) I suppose it would be rather foolish to expect GW to price it's knight kit similar to the crusader pricing? It better be a pretty amazing kit if they charge a pretty penny for it as I would need to really justify spending more then a crusader
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The Dreamforge Leviathan is slightly taller than a wraithknight, but considerably wider, longer, and less "empty space". I'd say it's almost halfway between a wraithknight and an Ork Stompa, perhaps a little closer to the stompa.
I'd honestly be disappointed if it was larger than a Riptide.
I don't think that it could be as large as a Leviathan, simply because of the limitations of the large oval base. The Wraithknight all ready fills that base. A Knight the size of the Leviathan would require a substancially larger base, as is evident with the leviathan.
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2014/01/24 15:35:01
Subject: 40k Radio: Imperial Knights in March
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Honestly are we 100% sure Imperial Knights means Knight Titans and not WFB Imperial Knights???
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