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2014/02/22 01:25:35
Subject: Re:Mantic Dreadball Xtreme Kickstarter - $250k stretch: Plague Mutants team, free team of your choice.
I pledged for the $145 early bird (plus international shipping), and I swear, on my grandmother's grave and in front of all of Dakka that I will not add to that total. Kep me honest, people!
JoshInJapan wrote: I pledged for the $145 early bird (plus international shipping), and I swear, on my grandmother's grave and in front of all of Dakka that I will not add to that total. Kep me honest, people!
Quoted. No takesy backsies!
I'll see you in our support group though, we'll console you when your grandmother comes back to kick your ass ; p
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2014/02/22 01:50:17
Subject: Mantic Dreadball Xtreme Kickstarter - $250k stretch: Plague Mutants team, free team of your choice.
I'll enter that compact with you JiJ! Uproar sounds cool but there isn't much of a savings in uproar compared to eb1 rampage and finding original db on sale I'm retail if I really want it.
I'll be reasonable and cut myself off at $200 though. And dependant on my dz survey.
Compel wrote: Thinking about it, I'm inclined to agree.
I mean, it's 2/3rds of the way to Kings of War's final total already, in the first 6 hours or so... Which is awesome.
But, there's what? An extra 20 new models, max, to show for it?
Well, as critical as I often am of Mantic's KS campaigns, it's unfair to compare anything to the initial KoW campaign, since it was a bit of a surprise all round the way that one panned out.
.. is bloody nice. The only marauder sculpt from Mantic that I've seen so far and really liked.
Looks brutal and ready to smash some faces in, not comedy goofball. Proportions are good, sculpting is good.
I'll agree that it's an excellent Ork from Mantic, based on their previous efforts. The thing is, that if it were a GW model, we'd simply shrug at it and say it was decent.
For those more knowledgeable...which of the Mantic KS have completely 100% delivered all products/waves to all pledgers? Is the original dreadball done? Are there still oustanding mistakes/mispacks/oopsies yet to be corrected on them all or have some of them been finished?
KoW and Loka are done. Dreadball is shipped, but there's a few missing bits stuff that needs sorting from its final wave.
Deadzone has shipped wave 1, awaiting wave 2. Mars Attacks ships in August.
I'm still waiting on my Loka and DB stuff. Conveniently, I got a reply this morning from them to my queries about my pile of missing stuff "they're on the way - sorry about the delay".
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Oooh stuffs on the way then? Cool. I need to pester them about a couple of bits from DZ yet, but I figure they're all likely to be out of it for a couple of days.
Latest update #7 has the purple gorilla or is it guerrilla? Anyway... they're deluxing the DBX rulebook and including it in all of the stretchgoal hasing pledge levels, I hope they continue to do that going forward, I love my paper copies of rulebooks, but having a souped up digital version (that I didn't have to pay more for) is excellent
2014/02/22 04:36:23
Subject: Re:Mantic Dreadball Xtreme Kickstarter - $250k stretch: Plague Mutants team, free team of your choice.
JoshInJapan wrote: I pledged for the $145 early bird (plus international shipping), and I swear, on my grandmother's grave and in front of all of Dakka that I will not add to that total. Kep me honest, people!
I'm right there with you, Josh. Speaking of keeping honest, I've already pruned back my Mars Attacks and Deadzone Survey 2 orders in order to justify getting in on this one.
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2014/02/22 04:46:11
Subject: Mantic Dreadball Xtreme Kickstarter - $250k stretch: Plague Mutants team, free team of your choice.
I'm still evaluating my DZ stuff (as I just got it). Trying to decide how many connectors I may need and how soon I might need those, evaluating the hot-glue "trick" for permanent structures to save on them. Many of the second shipment items that I didn't order before (and probably all of the antennocities stuff this time) are mentally 'locked-in', however getting more of stuff I already got like more battlezones are under consideration. How enthusiastic I become for DBX will likely impact that portion of my survey.
2014/02/22 05:32:18
Subject: Mantic Dreadball Xtreme Kickstarter - $250k stretch: Plague Mutants team, free team of your choice.
So far, I'd call Rage worth ~$65 for $125 (28-30 Asterians, Ardia, Kailasa, two sportbots). The plague look as awful as ever, but at least they're not mandatory this time.
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2014/02/22 05:34:03
Subject: Mantic Dreadball Xtreme Kickstarter - $250k stretch: Plague Mutants team, free team of your choice.
Glad you got it finally Grim! Yeah I'll prolly just grab a set of 5 connector sprues for $10... peanuts and will prolly make life easier. I have and like the antenocitii stuff, but it's way down the list value wise. If hobby cash is tight I'd probably sacrifice that for more DZ terrain, or maybe DBX stuff.
2014/02/22 05:42:03
Subject: Re:Mantic Dreadball Xtreme Kickstarter - $250k stretch: Plague Mutants team, free team of your choice.
That’s now a free team of your choice at Rage ($100) and Rampage ($150 and Early Bird+) of your choice, of which the selection can be Plague Mutants team.
A free 16-player Plague team has now been included in pledges of Frenzy ($375 and Early Bird+)!
Next up: $260,000 – UPGRADE! Enhanced Digital Rules
If we hit this stretch goal, we will give the Xtreme Rules PDF the Purple Guerilla treatment, creating a fully interactive eBook that can be carried anywhere, with features including buy once, read anywhere, living rules, responsive design and the ability to download future DreadBall titles!
$275,000 – BONUS! Asylum, MVP
If we hit this stretch goal, we will produce the clinically insane Asylum MVP and throw him into pledges of Rage ($100) and up, at no extra cost!
You can also add him onto your pledge for an additional $5.
Count me in for some nice digital rules!
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2014/02/22 07:25:47
Subject: Mantic Dreadball Xtreme Kickstarter - $250k stretch: Plague Mutants team, free team of your choice.
I like how the asterians are less space elfs and more blue Star Trek aliens with this release. I am thinking about going in for Fury or Rage and the walk down to the FLGS to pick up a copy of Dreadball to play in the meanwhile. The stretch goal with more of the same asterian and convict players is a bit cheap though, more of the same miniatures. And I do fear that when a huge package with tons of miniatures arrive, I will just feel a bit overwhelmed and loose interest...
There's currently 14 early birds for Rampage left, probably your last chance if you want to get one easily.
Digital rules are in, working towards the next MVP now.
Hoping there's a new team after that, the sooner the Frenzy level starts to look like a good deal, the faster this will move, but it has a lot of catching up to do!
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So, finally got to paw through the Kickstarter information, and I'm very excited. I'm sure a lot of stuff will translate over to DZ, same as 2 of my Enforcer MVPs have.
Also, another round of the ignore button for some posters who do nothing but whine and offer nothing constructive!
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Yep, I hope more teams come quickly. Not looking forward to bogus filler stretch goals like funding "new sculpts" that we know they've already produced and exhibited at the open day. Why they would need to have filler stretch goals at all when this KS is moving along faster than any of their previous ones is beyond me.
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Could the doubling up of the teams be a hint of a much bloodier game? The players have less armour and 'no rules' to abide by which could raise casualty rates considerably.
Duplicate sculpts are disappointing. Hopefully we get a stretch for variants.
Souleater wrote: Could the doubling up of the teams be a hint of a much bloodier game? The players have less armour and 'no rules' to abide by which could raise casualty rates considerably.
That may make some sense, but honestly recycling 'dead' figures would work just as well. It would also require less painting for those intending to paint their figures and less storage space.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Mantic confirmed the Plague team is made of the same plastic as the rest.
I know some folks assumed it was the case, but I am glad to get it confirmed.
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Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
I'm not liking the filler goals myself, seems that although it did really well on day one it's kinda started to level off and unless there's a crazy pickup in there or the last day is massive I don't think we'll see all the new teams before it's over. I fear a no new team backslide in the next few days.
Mr.Church13 wrote: I'm not liking the filler goals myself, seems that although it did really well on day one it's kinda started to level off and unless there's a crazy pickup in there or the last day is massive I don't think we'll see all the new teams before it's over. I fear a no new team backslide in the next few days.
Only day 2... They've already shown one new team. I'm not a huge fan of Mantic's inability to get customer service right, but I have no doubt they can run this KS project decently, and react on the fly as needed if/when it deviates from their desired path too much.
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
@jorny but the blue star trek aliens have shells or antennas! Those look more like wow trolls w/o the tusks/hips/feet to me. The previous baldsterians were kinda off anyhoo. Maybe all of the spelf castes/factions will vary widely.
@yonan that reasoning is why I have no aw bundles as it is . I think at this point I'd like to get fancy dressing over *more* tiles over which to slave . Plus they're soo pretty.
I think my sister can have the space elfs, and the convicts are kinda meh. Plague guys are neat but dunnoz for space murder football. I'm sure one of the incoming teams will properly entice me.. and I like most/all of the free agents.
Looking forward to developments.
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GrimDork, you forgot that all Star Trek aliens must have ridges or bumps on their heads prior to shells or antennae.
I think we'll see another team today. There's only so many days that this will be running, the teams will have to pop up every few days to keep the momentum going.
Like others have said, Mantic's gotten pretty good about modifying and revising stretch goals. We'll get plenty by the time it's all over, regardless of what level you pledge.
I'm super impatient, and want to see it all NOW.
I always kind of wonder what a campaign for a big miniature heavy game would look like if it was run in the span of something like two weeks or so. Would a super short, well publicized campaign be as effective as a longer drawn out one?
Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!
GrimDork wrote: @jorny but the blue star trek aliens have shells or antennas! Those look more like wow trolls w/o the tusks/hips/feet to me. The previous baldsterians were kinda off anyhoo. Maybe all of the spelf castes/factions will vary widely.
@yonan that reasoning is why I have no aw bundles as it is . I think at this point I'd like to get fancy dressing over *more* tiles over which to slave . Plus they're soo pretty.
I think my sister can have the space elfs, and the convicts are kinda meh. Plague guys are neat but dunnoz for space murder football. I'm sure one of the incoming teams will properly entice me.. and I like most/all of the free agents.
Looking forward to developments.
Grim, I actually like the convicts the best of the bunch so far. And their Orc MVP is just icing on the cake. I do like the plague as well, especially the idea that they are customizable, something that has been missing with dreadball minis.
It kind of depends I think... MA should have been shorter, but while DZ had a lull, it did build pretty consistently over time. I think you're right in that you'd have to have it well advertised. You might even scare some buy-ins just because of the limited engagement, though you might see a higher percentage of drops on the final day as well as add-ins, if you couldn't bust out enough progress before then.
Automatically Appended Next Post: @squall, I like the orx, he's cool, and the plague are cool.. I just dunno about a whole team of them coherently playing a sport I want some, but for conversions mostly. The convicts are ok, maybe if they get another sculpt or two I'll come around. And they'd make great gangers for necromunda style games.
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Not much really happens in Kickstarters other than the first day and the final few days. 25% day 1, 50% in the last few days tends to be a Mantic KS, like clockwork.
Sometimes you get a mid-campaign boost as something neat is revealed, but if it's manufactured (as with Mars Attacks) then you pay for it later.
I think 2 weeks is pushing it a bit, but 3 weeks as with DBX doesn't seem to be hurting things at all, in fact quite the opposite.
I'm kinda glad to see 3 week kickstarters personally, maintaining a 6-week thread gets a bit dull.
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So... super hilarious thought. Does dreadball technically have half time? And events during said half time? Because... picture this:
Pig lizard, and a couple of zees. The crowd watches with demented glee as the stompy low turn radius Pusk careens around corners and blasts through obstacles to reach the delicious space chimps. Almost like an even more demented form of dog races (if they were using live rabbits).
@SS, and backing one can get kind of exhausting. I think I literally did temporary damage to my hand from all of the spam checking/posting/watching of DZ I did on the phone..
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GrimDork wrote: It kind of depends I think... MA should have been shorter, but while DZ had a lull, it did build pretty consistently over time. I think you're right in that you'd have to have it well advertised. You might even scare some buy-ins just because of the limited engagement, though you might see a higher percentage of drops on the final day as well as add-ins, if you couldn't bust out enough progress before then.
Automatically Appended Next Post: @squall, I like the orx, he's cool, and the plague are cool.. I just dunno about a whole team of them coherently playing a sport I want some, but for conversions mostly. The convicts are ok, maybe if they get another sculpt or two I'll come around. And they'd make great gangers for necromunda style games.
I had not thought about them for Necromunda... I love them more now. They may be a little small... but I can get creative with the bases or do something to give them some height at least if they need it. This just got more exciting.
. I think at this point I'd like to get fancy dressing over *more* tiles over which to slave 