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I know you said 'at least' but: 6 months is a long time between KS?

Well, Mantic said at least 6+ months away for KoW, unclear if there's something else happening in the summer.

My bank account is very enthusiastic about this news. Almost enough to put some back into dbx but there's still a dz second survey...

Big fan of all the art Mantic put out for their ever expanding sci fi universe. When the execution catches up it will be truly amazing.

I haven't really taken a look at this one's progress until recently, and I was a bit shocked at how it is going:




Shocked, that is, until I looked into the other recent Mantic campaigns - looks like, aside from the massive spike at the start, it is business as usual!

I wonder if this one really will finish at just about where the first Dreadball ended?

It'll gradually get to $500k before the last few days then at least another $250k in last few days. A 2500-3000 backer, $750k estimate seems likely.

Don't think a season 7 is likely, but a full three seasons definitely looks like it'll happen now that the season 5 unlocks are getting leapfrogged (which has got the total moving quite nicely again).

 scarletsquig wrote:
It'll gradually get to $500k before the last few days then at least another $250k in last few days. A 2500-3000 backer, $750k estimate seems likely.

Don't think a season 7 is likely, but a full three seasons definitely looks like it'll happen now that the season 5 unlocks are getting leapfrogged (which has got the total moving quite nicely again).

You really think they are going to almost double where they are now, considering the front load effect of the EB and short time duration Frenzy pledges?

I don't see it.

Hope I'm wrong.

Just look at Deadzones last three days. There is a huge tendency of many potential backers to set a reminder for the last few days and then make a decision then. It's becoming exaggerated with the fact that many have already made their opinion on Mantic.

The board game crowd is who the "campaigning" needs to be directed towards on this one since the figures will come as whole pieces and there will be less of a need to paint/individualize figures with player advancement in the xtreme campaign (which instead focuses on sponsor advancement).


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Double checking the numbers:

Getting a rampage and then doing add-ons is going to match Frenzy at the end of Season 5 more or less (a few unknowns but best and worst case is 20 or so bucks over and under).

IF Season 6 follows the same patterns, that is where you are going to make out, which is why they are locking it when they are, pushing people to do add-ons and late holdout completionists are gonna get the short end of the stick.

My thoughts are for any fence sitters, best to lock it in at frenzy now and if you think you don't want it all downgrade later. You may end up pledging as much but getting less if you really like what you see in Season 6. If they don't throw in "everything" in Season 6 like they are Seasons 4 & 5, you can move to rampage with nothing lost.

The brass etching makes me glad that I never got around to painting up numbers and facings on my bases. Only ten bucks to make it look good.

I'm not a completionist - Rampage plus about $50 looks like its going to get me everything I'm interested in, and more besides.

I want that Iron Ancestor.

If they can make a plastic one for ten bucks, and of hopefully a comparable size to the combat model, I fully intended to try and weaponize mine.

Very excited to see the full artwork for it.

It's a new sculpt and I'd say it will be smaller than the Warpath ones a bit like the Big Mech and Striders, I don't see the new Dreadball Giants being to far out of scale with the existing ones.

^ I weaponized a big mech, I think it turned out alright:


If I end up backing I'll be weaponizing the IA too.

I pledged for a buck, just in case there's anything down the road that turns out to be something I'd like. I'm now refereing to this as an "Azazelx 2.0 Manoeuvre".

I wish I would have done that on Mars Attacks...

 Alpharius wrote:
I pledged for a buck, just in case there's anything down the road that turns out to be something I'd like. I'm now refereing to this as an "Azazelx 2.0 Manoeuvre".

Well played and wise, to boot... at least in the case of Mantic, I think. They give such great pledge manager access, but are so hit and miss with sculpts, why risk more upfront? Get in with $1 and wait and see.

Of course, you have to have willpower for that... too easy to up it after pledging a buck. I'm not touching this one personally... waiting to see what the few Mars Attacks items I pledged for for a friend work out.

 scarletsquig wrote:
It'll gradually get to $500k before the last few days then at least another $250k in last few days. A 2500-3000 backer, $750k estimate seems likely.

Don't think a season 7 is likely, but a full three seasons definitely looks like it'll happen now that the season 5 unlocks are getting leapfrogged (which has got the total moving quite nicely again).

Still a lot of doubled-up speculative pledges that people are camping on (like your own). I don't think all those people are going to want a Frenzy and a Rampage....


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Earth Dragon wrote:

My thoughts are for any fence sitters, best to lock it in at frenzy now and if you think you don't want it all downgrade later. You may end up pledging as much but getting less if you really like what you see in Season 6. If they don't throw in "everything" in Season 6 like they are Seasons 4 & 5, you can move to rampage with nothing lost.

I pretty much got everything first time around. I've done nothing with any of it. I don't see the need for absolute completionism for a game like this, TBH.

Caved in and signed up for a deluxe original pitch and a scenery set for $25.

 Azazelx wrote:


I pretty much got everything first time around. I've done nothing with any of it. I don't see the need for absolute completionism for a game like this, TBH.

Because it exists so it must be owned! I...um...may have an addiction problem when little plastic gaming figures are concerned. Since my hobby storage area is rapidly resembling a very nerdy episode of Hoarders (link for those unfamiliar) I might not be the person to take advice from on this topic.

Quasi-joking aside, it's slightly more relevant for Xtreme than it was with the original with the mix-n-match rules for team building. You can build a maxed out "pure" team of 14 players then use the extras to build a hybrid team or 2 (or 3 if you don't max them out). Mainly for painting convenience.

Sadly, I've only gotten one game of DreadBall in though it was enjoyable despite losing. Coming down to the last second throw, and then the guy drops the ball despite having 3 dice to catch. Good fun, and I like the look of the teams shown thus far. The Brokkrs are my least favorite of the batch, and I'd still rate them as "okay" so I'm looking forward to what gets added.

I'm a little surprised to see the Brokkrs getting so little love here. There are even some FF aficionados here that I've seen expressing disinterest in them.

 Vermonter wrote:
I'm a little surprised to see the Brokkrs getting so little love here. There are even some FF aficionados here that I've seen expressing disinterest in them.

Unless I missed something, there isn't much to comment on. The one drawing I've seen doesn't give me enough of an idea as to what the team is going to look like or do, let alone differentiate it from the current dwarf team.

In fact, the lack of real detail on what the announced teams are really like makes me wonder at the love shown to some of them in the KS comments section.

They're short little guys in armor. Some are bald. Some have helmet/ face guard things.

What else is there to say when you have teams of translucent crystal people, centaurs and multi- limbed aliens, or friggin' shark men?

I prefer the look of the actual Forge Father team to the Brokkrs, but that's just my personal taste.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
They're short little guys in armor. Some are bald. Some have helmet/ face guard things.

What else is there to say when you have teams of translucent crystal people, centaurs and multi- limbed aliens, or friggin' shark men?

I prefer the look of the actual Forge Father team to the Brokkrs, but that's just my personal taste.

Same here - and I think that sentiment goes a long way towards explaining the lack of 'sizzle' over the Brokkrs announcement.

 CptJake wrote:

Unless I missed something, there isn't much to comment on. The one drawing I've seen doesn't give me enough of an idea as to what the team is going to look like or do, let alone differentiate it from the current dwarf team.

The Brokkrs were one of the first teams ever shown for Dreadball Xtreme, back at the Mantic Open Day.

Admittedly, my photos are rather rubbish compared to other peoples.

Ah Compel got the picture up here's another



At least they have models to make a judgement on. I really like the Forgefathers Dreadball team and I'll be mixing some Brokkrs with them but I don't see them being overly different to the FF.

If I stay at Rampage I'd actually spend $25 on a full 16 man Brokkr team and I'll take the Spyhr as my Free team and buy 8 Rebs - the Rebs can be bulked up to 16 using other figures like the Grogan, Yndij and Spyhr and the Spyhr I like but only enough to get 8. Not interested in the Crystallans.

or I could stick with Frenzy and get em all one of these pledges has to go at some point!

I really like the Crystallans and can see myself picking up a full team.

I was wondering if mantic would be doing any bundle deals, such as buy two teams get one free. Doubt they would tho, it would probably work out better value than frenzy.

weirdly I feel less involved in this ks, I've only put in $1, all I can afford atm and I'm kinda happy to sit back and wait till the end rather than jump in the comments or check everyday for updates. On the deadzone ks I was there each day seeing what was been added to my strike pledge.

See I could live without the dwarfs, but I would like both the rebs and the crystallans (interesting before, clear plastic makes it even harder to resist). Sphyr are a maybe item if I can dig up more funds or don't have more than one team I want from the next season. If I end up backing. I gave up my EB1 Rampage but now I'm starting to come around again :p

@ed I'm kind of in the same spot, don't really have a lot of money to throw at it, but there's so much potential for DZ crossover stuff that I almost feel obligated to pick something up I was considering getting some Infinity minis from birthday funds but I would probably hit 10x as many dudes for a bit more cost here and I'd get a game system and stuff to play it with too. But I only check the comments or updates about once a day, only passingly interested, may still drop altogether.

Second for warpath KS

 Krinsath wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:


I pretty much got everything first time around. I've done nothing with any of it. I don't see the need for absolute completionism for a game like this, TBH.

Because it exists so it must be owned! I...um...may have an addiction problem when little plastic gaming figures are concerned. Since my hobby storage area is rapidly resembling a very nerdy episode of Hoarders (link for those unfamiliar) I might not be the person to take advice from on this topic.

Quasi-joking aside, it's slightly more relevant for Xtreme than it was with the original with the mix-n-match rules for team building. You can build a maxed out "pure" team of 14 players then use the extras to build a hybrid team or 2 (or 3 if you don't max them out). Mainly for painting convenience.

Sadly, I've only gotten one game of DreadBall in though it was enjoyable despite losing. Coming down to the last second throw, and then the guy drops the ball despite having 3 dice to catch. Good fun, and I like the look of the teams shown thus far. The Brokkrs are my least favorite of the batch, and I'd still rate them as "okay" so I'm looking forward to what gets added.

I've got a touch of the completionist bug myself, but the fact that I found many of the models to be disappointing, both in sculpts and material - and because I haven't played, despite dropping hundreds last time makes it easy for me to not drop another $400 on it again. At least with 40k,WFB, KoW, random fantasy and sci-fi models I get the suckers painted. More tiny crappy Mantic bloodbowl men for a large amount of cash delivered for Christmas isn't actually very appealing anymore with so much stuff I want to buy now.

One thing I do find interesting is that several people (when doing the "value counts") seem to be just counting the boardgame plastic models with the same kind of "value" as though they were restic/HIPS/metal when boardgame plastic has traditionally been the low-cost, pack'em-in material that gets you an absolute pile of models without making that much of a fuss about it all. Look at Descent, Ravenloft, LNoE, etc. Now these are starting to be considered the same as other miniatures and priced accordingly. And this isn't the first or only KS to decide this...


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 CptJake wrote:

 Vermonter wrote:
I'm a little surprised to see the Brokkrs getting so little love here. There are even some FF aficionados here that I've seen expressing disinterest in them.

Unless I missed something, there isn't much to comment on. The one drawing I've seen doesn't give me enough of an idea as to what the team is going to look like or do, let alone differentiate it from the current dwarf team.
In fact, the lack of real detail on what the announced teams are really like makes me wonder at the love shown to some of them in the KS comments section.

Didn't they show off a sculpted Brokkr Team at some open day or something? Why the hell are they instead showing line artwork for them?


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 Compel wrote:

The Brokkrs were one of the first teams ever shown for Dreadball Xtreme, back at the Mantic Open Day.
Admittedly, my photos are rather rubbish compared to other peoples.

Yeah! Those ones!

 DaveC wrote:
Ah Compel got the picture up here's another



At least they have models to make a judgement on. I really like the Forgefathers Dreadball team and I'll be mixing some Brokkrs with them but I don't see them being overly different to the FF.

If I stay at Rampage I'd actually spend $25 on a full 16 man Brokkr team and I'll take the Spyhr as my Free team and buy 8 Rebs - the Rebs can be bulked up to 16 using other figures like the Grogan, Yndij and Spyhr and the Spyhr I like but only enough to get 8. Not interested in the Crystallans.

or I could stick with Frenzy and get em all one of these pledges has to go at some point!

[user]

I think Brokkrs will blend with Forge Fathers like Void blend with Trontek. Maybe not in xtreme proper (since it sounds like you blend in teams through the sponsor) but I don't see that being a problem in DBO

This. What the hell is this? A Fyrit?



Don't you DARE start trying to entice me to up my pledge back up again Mantic, don't you dare!

Giant reptilian monsters are my KRYPTONITE and I must OWN them.

I want more. Hope it's a giant too.

And Sphyr? No mention on Dakka that they're in? And the Forge Father Iron Ancestor is probably landing soon?