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2014/02/22 02:40:17
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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bladeiai wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote: His Master's Voice wrote:YakManDoo wrote:Um...hate to do this, but it looks like GW ripped off the Cygnar Stormwall and threw a Chainsword on it. I love the model, but this is a PP influenced release with a PP influenced model.
Oh man, this is gonna be fun...
Also, GW totally ripped off Blizzard. Everything in 40K is straight from StarCraft!
I think you might have that backwards, 40K out dates Starcraft by a good ways
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2014/02/22 02:44:01
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Fixture of Dakka
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H.B.M.C. wrote: His Master's Voice wrote:YakManDoo wrote:Um...hate to do this, but it looks like GW ripped off the Cygnar Stormwall and threw a Chainsword on it. I love the model, but this is a PP influenced release with a PP influenced model.
Oh man, this is gonna be fun...
Also, GW totally ripped off Blizzard. Everything in 40K is straight from StarCraft!
Eldrad is totally a Tassadar clone!
Hmm, It would be cool to get a Queen of Blades like model as say a Genestealer Cult P(M)atriarch...
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2014/02/22 02:44:39
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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Well, with the Tau release it seemed they actually had trouble supplying product for once. I don't know if there were that many issues filling pre-orders but for several weeks after the initial release it was hard for a lot of people to get any of the new models.
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2014/02/22 02:45:25
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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 azreal13 wrote:bladeiai wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote: His Master's Voice wrote:YakManDoo wrote:Um...hate to do this, but it looks like GW ripped off the Cygnar Stormwall and threw a Chainsword on it. I love the model, but this is a PP influenced release with a PP influenced model.
Oh man, this is gonna be fun...
Also, GW totally ripped off Blizzard. Everything in 40K is straight from StarCraft!
I think you might have that backwards, 40K out dates Starcraft by a good ways
Oh crap near wet myself on that one!
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2014/02/22 02:47:11
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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 Sidstyler wrote:Well, with the Tau release it seemed they actually had trouble supplying product for once. I don't know if there were that many issues filling pre-orders but for several weeks after the initial release it was hard for a lot of people to get any of the new models.
Wasn't that only from 3rd party vendors? I thought actual GW stores were well stocked, they just didn't give enough to FLGS's?
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2014/02/22 02:50:53
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Hallowed Canoness
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Also, GW totally ripped off Blizzard. Everything in 40K is straight from StarCraft!
Laugh all you want, I say Centurions really look like Starcraft II Marauders !
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2014/02/22 02:51:37
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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You mean Starship Troopers III Marauders?...
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2014/02/22 02:52:08
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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AllSeeingSkink wrote: Sidstyler wrote:Well, with the Tau release it seemed they actually had trouble supplying product for once. I don't know if there were that many issues filling pre-orders but for several weeks after the initial release it was hard for a lot of people to get any of the new models.
Wasn't that only from 3rd party vendors? I thought actual GW stores were well stocked, they just didn't give enough to FLGS's?
Both.
Some places got overstocked with the big kits but understocked with the little kits. I know that my local GW store had the Codex, Cadre Fireblades, Darkstrider, and the Pathfinder boxes in abundance--but two or three Riptides and none of the flyers.
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2014/02/22 02:59:20
Subject: Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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I don’t see why so many people are comparing the knight titan to the other LOW just because the models are super heavy walkers. A Revenant Titan would easily take an army of five of these by its self at least killing one or two a turn. I even think a transcended C Tan would have no problem taking three. The knight titan close combat weapon does not do anything Nightbringer did not do in the last codex when he ignored saves in CC. Looking at the stats the Riptide is still a better giant robot, and a five riptide list is easy to make.
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2014/02/22 03:08:24
Subject: I can't help myself...
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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bladeiai wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote: His Master's Voice wrote:YakManDoo wrote:Um...hate to do this, but it looks like GW ripped off the Cygnar Stormwall and threw a Chainsword on it. I love the model, but this is a PP influenced release with a PP influenced model.
Oh man, this is gonna be fun...
Also, GW totally ripped off Blizzard. Everything in 40K is straight from StarCraft!
I think you might have that backwards, 40K out dates Starcraft by a good ways
You're crazy! Hormagaunts might as well be called Zerglings! Protos constructs are powered by the souls of the dead and then suddenly GW has "Wraithlords" that do the same thing. It's shameless, and GW has the hide to sue other people for using "Space Marines". The balls on those people.
*waits*
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2014/02/22 03:29:45
Subject: I can't help myself...
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Nah, at least my mind is far too bright to allow you that location. I hope...
Well, I may buy one in the future, but I have too much stuff in front of me (mainly infantry). It's tempting, though.
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2014/02/22 03:50:07
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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2014/02/22 03:58:32
Subject: Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Looks like the pics I remember from playing Epic back in the day. Sorry new kids, I'm no GW apologist but the only thing GW did on this was wait 10 years too long to put them out.
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 The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
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2014/02/22 04:01:18
Subject: Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Closer to 20. 
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2014/02/22 04:13:48
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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2014/02/22 04:16:04
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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 cerbrus2 wrote:YakManDoo wrote:PP is the target not Dreamforge IMHO... PP has been releasing giant models throughout their range...this is GW responding to the changing marketplace...Riptide, Wraithknight and now the Cygnar...er...I mean imperial Knight. Glad they are doing this, but Dreamforge is chump change compared to PP and their threat to GW market share.
Not sure is Stupid, or just Trolling.
Yeah, GW can't be trying to target PP's audience with the new Knights, mostly because GW still doesn't even acknowledge that PP and other competitors' games exist.
No, this is a continuation of GW's current philosophy: release all new models that people don't already have, thus making everybody buy the new model.
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2014/02/22 04:22:15
Subject: Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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I just need to make close combat weapons for my Leynos suits, they are shorter than my Leviathan Crusader
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2014/02/22 04:26:34
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Pretty excited to see this new army in all its glory...hopefully it lives up to expectations.
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2014/02/22 04:26:36
Subject: Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Care to actually tell us what the difference is then? "That's wrong, it's actually approx X" is a bit more useful than "that's wrong, I know why but I'm not saying, tee hee"
As for the new pics & info, it's a shame; these are such nice kits, but not at direct retail price, even with the discount from 3rd party retailers it's pushing it. Even then, I would have trouble stopping myself from getting at least one, but thankfully GW are continuing their idiotic new premise of putting out the models before the rules, and that irritates me enough to prevent the purchase.
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2014/02/22 04:47:58
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Regular Dakkanaut
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cerbrus2 wrote:YakManDoo wrote:PP is the target not Dreamforge IMHO... PP has been releasing giant models throughout their range...this is GW responding to the changing marketplace...Riptide, Wraithknight and now the Cygnar...er...I mean imperial Knight. Glad they are doing this, but Dreamforge is chump change compared to PP and their threat to GW market share.
Not sure is Stupid, or just Trolling.
You are aware that Privateer Press maintains two of the best selling miniature wargames on the market in Hordes/Warmachine? You are aware that Privateer Press continues to grow in the segment? You are aware that Dreamforge is effectively a one man shop?
Privateer Press pushed the large model strategy over the last three years and has come up big. GW has followed suit in the last year. Shall we count the kits since 6th edition? GW is chasing PP's strategy.
GW is chasing the market (falling profit will do that), and the Imperial knight is clear evidence of an industry leader in emulate mode and not innovate mode. That is in no way a comment on the quality of the kit. GW is losing market share, and this kit shows they are not above following the successful strategy of an innovative and growing company.
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2014/02/22 05:00:01
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I love you so much right now  (goes to finish his Dreamforge Order)
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2014/02/22 05:07:27
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Nuwisha wrote:
I love you so much right now (goes to finish his Dreamforge Order)
Heh, I love you too  That Wayland post is classic. I am not a GW hater but it serves them right for all the crap the created with the BOW/Wayland partnership.
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2014/02/22 05:08:18
Subject: Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Fixture of Dakka
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So if the knight is only 6.5 inch that means it is only slightly larger than a dreadknight?
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2014/02/22 05:18:34
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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YakManDoo wrote:You are aware that Privateer Press maintains two of the best selling miniature wargames on the market in Hordes/Warmachine? You are aware that Privateer Press continues to grow in the segment? You are aware that Dreamforge is effectively a one man shop?
And? DreamForge came out with their resin knight quite some time ago. It was years of pleading on our part that finally pushed him to use Kickstart the plastic version back in 2012. Even then, people were discussing the model's use as a Warhound "counts as" and not a PP knockoff.
YakManDoo wrote:Privateer Press pushed the large model strategy over the last three years and has come up big. GW has followed suit in the last year. Shall we count the kits since 6th edition? GW is chasing PP's strategy.
Please, do remind me, when did GW release the Baneblade and Stompa plastic kits? 2007? 2008? How long has Forge World been making large models like the Deff Dread? No, GW isn't chasing PP. If anything, GW is chasing FW.
YakManDoo wrote:...the Imperial knight is clear evidence of an industry leader in emulate mode and not innovate mode. That is in no way a comment on the quality of the kit. GW is losing market share, and this kit shows they are not above following the successful strategy of an innovative and growing company.
Okay, this is just ignorance.
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2014/02/22 05:20:59
Subject: Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne
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I am pretty stoked on this model and haven't been even remotely interested in a GW model in awhile...
I am thinking this will be a nice addition to my adeptus custode army. Anyone know if there were knights present at the seige of terra? If so which houses?
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2014/02/22 05:23:16
Subject: Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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I'm sure GW will find a way to retcon them in.
 Jehan-reznor wrote:So if the knight is only 6.5 inch that means it is only slightly larger than a dreadknight?
Picture I saw has it at about the same size as a Riptide only bulkier.
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2014/02/22 05:31:08
Subject: Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Jehan-reznor wrote:So if the knight is only 6.5 inch that means it is only slightly larger than a dreadknight?
The Knight page on the GW site says it's 8 inches tall.
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2014/02/22 05:32:30
Subject: Re:Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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YakManDoo wrote: cerbrus2 wrote:YakManDoo wrote:PP is the target not Dreamforge IMHO... PP has been releasing giant models throughout their range...this is GW responding to the changing marketplace...Riptide, Wraithknight and now the Cygnar...er...I mean imperial Knight. Glad they are doing this, but Dreamforge is chump change compared to PP and their threat to GW market share.
Not sure is Stupid, or just Trolling.
You are aware that Privateer Press maintains two of the best selling miniature wargames on the market in Hordes/Warmachine? You are aware that Privateer Press continues to grow in the segment? You are aware that Dreamforge is effectively a one man shop?
Privateer Press pushed the large model strategy over the last three years and has come up big. GW has followed suit in the last year. Shall we count the kits since 6th edition? GW is chasing PP's strategy.
GW is chasing the market (falling profit will do that), and the Imperial knight is clear evidence of an industry leader in emulate mode and not innovate mode. That is in no way a comment on the quality of the kit. GW is losing market share, and this kit shows they are not above following the successful strategy of an innovative and growing company.
Yeah, coz it's not like GW have been making large kits for years like large tanks, monsters, dragons. Oh wait, yes they have. Well it's not like GW have been making large walkers for years. Oh wait, yes they have. Well it's not like GW pulled the Knight from their own resources going back decades. Oh wait, yes they did. Well it's not like GW have been pulling models from Epic in to 40k for many years. Oh wait, yes they have.
Obviously GW is on the decline, but it's a bit of a stretch to say they're chasing PP or anyone else with the Knights, they've been making big kits for years and they've been using Epic as a resource for 40k for years. Models of the Knights existed before PP existed. FWIW, even the Trygon was originally an Epic model modified and upscaled to 40k, so this is nothing new for GW, not to mention the Stompa and Baneblade which have been around for years now.
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2014/02/22 05:33:32
Subject: Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
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2014/02/22 05:33:43
Subject: Imperial Knights - Pre Orders Available, New Pics Available On GW Site
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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Either GW fail at taking pictures, the Knight models in pictures is different to the Knight model they're actually sending out, or 8" is a lie because everything we've seen of it, it's more like 6 to 6.5".
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