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Huh? DBX is in "boardgame plastic". Which doesn't mean much at all until we see their first product in that material (Mars Attacks).

 RiTides wrote:
Well, that certainly solidifies that I won't be going for Dreadball Extreme... thanks for the heads up! It's so hard to know what the casting quality is going to be like for these campaigns (i.e. even CMON's efforts such as Sedition Wars, not just Mantic). Makes me want to just avoid PVC entirely...

The quality was just absurdly inconsistent. The Plague stuff wasn't bad. The Orks were actually really solid. But my Enforcers and Rebs were terrible. Just terrible. I cleaned and assembled about 1/3 of my rebs and had to quit I was so irritated. As a comparison, I'd put the Sedition Wars stuff in between the Plague and the Orks, but well above the other two.

I encourage you all to check out the Rivet Wars models at Adepticon if you go; they're just delightful.

Oooooooh, the pre-painted figures thing is attractive. If they could do that for the retail box, they may be on to something...

I like painting, but I can see appeal boost with people in the board game side if it came pre-painted for reasonable price.

 Alpharius wrote:
I know that's what I'm doing from now on.

No more 'restic' Kickstarters for me, if I can avoid it.

Wait, what? I thought the Dreadball stuff wasn't restic. They state as much in the FAQ on the front page.

Huh!

Sorry then!

I just assumed Mantic = Restic unless they say Hard Plastic!

Again, apologies!

Still, this being Mantic, I'm not sure I believe...

Well, we don't know how the boardgame plastic stuff will pan out, so it does still requires a combination of caution and blind faith on the models turning out well...

a couple more targets hit

To show that I don't have a dog in the fight, I'd like to throw this site your way. I participated in Tyson's KS for the SDE 3D boards last year or so, and got a good bit of chibi style scenery. He's looking like he is in on this one as well.


Whats good for one chibi game is always good for another. If I was so inclined... and I am, I intend to contact him again and point him in this games direction, so he can get his hindquarters to work on the next batch of chibi fantasy stuffs..... ( he does some great work.)


I'm not a fan of the figures, the game, or CMON, but I am a fan of pushing a good product that would go great with these guys as well. ( I still think they look like GUTZ, or M.U.S.C.L.E. guys. )

Heres the site-

http://www.figurepainters.com/store/

Go buy some stuff for this game, as well.


Bone thrown!

I know Tyson was looking for a 'next 3D tile' and maybe AQ-tiles might be good.

Looks like 4 tiles have a 'guild house' where they start and the squares are 3"x3". A 3D board might with Cityscape could be cool.

I also have Tyson's boards and they are amazing. Literally the best KS I have backed and the best product I have gotten from a KS so far.

I think it looks a little like Krosmaster, which is more of a collectible game I think, but the figures look about proportioned the same. Don't know anything about gameplay.

http://www.icv2.com/articles/markets/27982.html

Those Krosmaster figures look better, I think. It's actually one of the kickstarter projects CMON backed. (Krosmaster KS)

The Krosmaster stuff is twice the size though, pre-painted and at a higher price point. Although the $6 they were quoting for machine-painted figures for this would make things comparable.

I'm not sure what to think of the models - I actually increasingly like the grotesque style, but it combined with the small tiles certainly does not make for a universally attractive game. But then, I'd have said that about Rivet Wars, and people love the look of that thing!

I was just comparing it in looks of the figures to Krosmaster, not size or anything else.

My kids like the looks of this one, and it seems like it will be a quick, competitive game. Really liking all the sculpts of the tokens, they'll make the game very nice. Going to have to buy lots of the coins, haha.

Game Play - 3. Upgrade Cards

Salutations!

We are back again! This time, we’ll talk about another very cool feature of the game: Upgrade Cards. These are basically all the awesome equipment and extra abilities that Heroes use during the game to attack other Heroes or Monsters, defend from incoming attacks, or generally do cool unique stuff. Among these cards, you’ll find many weapons, armor, items and spells. In fact, Upgrade cards come in three types: Attack Cards, Boost Cards and Permanent Cards. Attack Cards can be Melee or Ranged and are used to.. well.. attack others! Boost cards can’t be used on their own, but they can greatly improve the power of an Attack card used in conjunction with it. Permanent Cards are always in effect, just like a Hero’s Natural Ability. It should be noted that, in order to activate an Attack or Boost Card, a player must first Exhaust it, by placing one of his Guild tokens on it. But don’t worry about that just now, we’ll talk about Exhausting soon!

Each player starts the Campaign with the same 5 Starter Cards. The players can distribute these cards among his 3 Heroes in any way he wants, as long as he respects the maximum limit of 4 cards per Hero.


Upgrade Cards

At the end of each scenario, an Upgrade Phase takes place, in which all players are able to spend their hard earned coins to buy cool new cards, thus upgrading their Heroes. In a campaign, each scenario is associated with an Upgrade Deck. So, if you have just played your first scenario, you will be able to buy cards from the Level 1 Upgrade Deck. If you played your second scenario, you will buy from the Level 2 Upgrade Deck and so on. The new cards, together with the ones that you already had and your Heroes’ abilities can combine to create powerful and unexpected combos!



For example: Crushing Gauntlet boosts Grom, then Grom crushes you with Frostbite.

Each scenario contains at least one Quest with Reward Cards associated with it. These are very special items that can only be acquired by accomplishing that specific Quest! Reward Cards can be immediately placed in the inventory of any of that Guild’s Heroes - the new and shiny card is ready to be used right away.



Epicness awaits as you advance through the upgrade decks!

Hmm, I wonder if there will be any stretch goals for more cards or another "paper" campaign.

If not, hopefully they have expansions planned for post KS in timely releases!

@ Alpharius - believe it...



Painted production plastic mini -

And those look better in "boargame plastic" than everything from deadzone.

Exactly!

Though I'm not ready to believe anything from Mantic just yet.

OT here - I'm tempted by this one.

It looks like it could be a lot of fun...

Any particular reason why I should or should not get in on this one?

 Alpharius wrote:
Exactly!

Though I'm not ready to believe anything from Mantic just yet.

OT here - I'm tempted by this one.

It looks like it could be a lot of fun...

Any particular reason why I should or should not get in on this one?

Why yes - Personally, I think it looks like a blast. Rules seem simple enough to be a fun beer and pretzels adventure. I really like what I saw from that campaign sheet. CMoN last board game effort in rivet wars was top notch; you know the components will be top notch; if Zombicide and rivet wars are any indication it will be well supported.

Why not - you don't like dungeon-crawly type games; you don't like/trust CMoN still; you are short on cash; you're inexplicably choosing Dreadball extreme; you don't like fun; you don't like the aesthetic.

The only thing I'm on the fence about is the overall aesthetic - other than that, it seems like a lot of fun.

And I'm still kicking myself for not picking up Rivet Wars...

Is there going to be an Arcadia Demo at Adepticon?

And a Rivet Wars Demo at Adepticon?

Yes definitely to rivet wars. Arcadia is doubtful.

 cincydooley wrote:
Yes definitely to rivet wars. Arcadia is doubtful.

I'll have to demo Rivet Wars then!

Will the 'convention exclusives' be available then too?

 Alpharius wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
Yes definitely to rivet wars. Arcadia is doubtful.

I'll have to demo Rivet Wars then!

Will the 'convention exclusives' be available then too?

Should be some available for with a purchase for Zombicide for sure.

Treasure hunter will be available with Rivet Wars with purchase.

Are the game tiles final? The more I look at them the less I like them. They're just too white. Makes them look unfinished.

According to the gameplay video, only the miniatures are final, so who knows.

I do know a touch of "terrain" in plastic, etc, just to give the game space some "pop" would be nicely appreciated. I actually like the aesthetic, love how simple the rules are, but also dislike the tiles immensely.

I have to say I got bored half way through the gameplay video and switched it off it's a bit too repetitive and the monsters seem to have little to do other than wait to be attacked but that could just be how that particular group played it. There's been a lot of comments about the inanimate monsters today.

This will come down to value for money on the minis and 3D counters I think as I can't see myself staying interested in the game for long but have plenty of use for the counters and minis.

48 minis so far (49 when we get Hitch) so the value is pretty solid,

plus the 2 optionals which are 'expensive'

(although more monster variety would be good so I really hope they've got another 'expansion' to show later)

Well, as others have said, the monsters seem almost incidental so far. They don't "do" much, and are more a twist/asset for player-vs-player tactics, which the game seems to really be about.

If anything it seems like a slightly smarter, more tactically interesting Krosmaster Arena.

size shot



Hey guys, we have seen you guys asking about size comparison and scale. So we took this picture to give you an idea of the scale of the miniatures. The smaller creatures are on a 25mm base and the bigger guys are on a 40mm base. I hope that clears things up!

Has there been any further clarification on if the monsters will be 'acting' differently?