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Did anyone read the back of the latest WD weekly?

It sounded like a joke, but then...was it?

Do you think GW will bring a Primarch back into 40k?

WD 4, page 74 - Gaze of the Inquisition

I think that was just theorising, it's a commonly-discussed topic amongst hobbyists and the text in the codex is deliberately ambiguous. GW will never confirm or deny, as that would advance the storyline.

Care to give us a synopsis?

Robot Girlyman isn't dead. He's just in stasis after suffering life-threatening wounds. Bringing him back in a super-Dreadnought or super-CenturionKnightMarineMarine wouldn't be against GW's modus nowadays.

After all, he's a Space Marine, he's a special character, and he's something exploitable from 40k's past. It's the perfect mixture for GW to bring back.

Basically the WD team discuss, well mention some aspects of the fluff.

One guy on the team thinks big Ro is on the mend and will be fighting for the IoM in short order. It's implied that the rest of the team think that's actually quite a cool idea. That's about it really.

Next week in WD
Supplement; Guilliman Rising

 BrookM wrote:
Care to give us a synopsis?

The WD teams talks about how the legion of the damned codex has the WD team talking about 40k mysteries. One of them is the condition of Guilliman and whether he is healing from his wounds.

One of the team members is adamant that Guilliman is healing and that no one on the team is mocking his rumor, because frankly they all hope it's true.

No. I don't think it would happen. Just because if they brought Guilliman back, Then there is no good reason for Johnson to come back, Or Russ, Or Vulkan.....

It would just snowball from there and soon all the primarchs would be back, including the "Dead" ones.

Don't make fun, when he wakes up he's going to first knock on Abbadons door and pick him up from his pony tail. Then shove a power fist down his throat and flip the on switch.

I think it would make Lorgar do stuff again.

Ralis wrote:
It would just snowball from there and soon all the primarchs would be back, including the "Dead" ones.

How is that a problem ?
On the other hand, I am pretty sure Alicia Dominica is not coming back .

I'm pretty okay with any Primarch coming back. Except Russ. Feth that piece of gak donkey-cave.




Space wolves suck.

Well if they ever advance the fluff then I see this happening especially with the 13th Black Crusade at the door of Terra pretty much. There are rumors of multiple primarchs that could come back. After all they would need something to fight those daemon prince primarchs right? I could see them advanced the fluff sometime in the next decade and doing this. Heck I wouldn't put it past them to do it in 7th edition. The fluff changes alone would get a lot of people to buy a too soon rulebook.

Well, they already have 30k profiles for Primarchs. There's really no reason to not lift them up to 40k, as it doesn't actually change anything in the setting, except for some minor fluff. So the Imperium has a Primarch now, big deal. Chaos has a bunch and it did them no good so far.

You do know that it's not the Emperor on the Golden Throne and that they swapped his body with Robute's?

On a more serious note, I don't see GW bringing back the Primarchs at this point in time. If it were me I would let FW do their Horus Heresy thing and milk that for all it is worth and then after the Heresy series is finished move on the storyline and bring some Primarchs back in the 13th Crusade. Let Abaddon launch his ships and go to war on an unprecedented scale and then as he leaves the eye all the poor souls of humanity turn to the Emperor and give bith to a new god which destroys the Eye of Terra in a similar way to how Slanesh was born and in the now dead space that was the Eye the missing Primarchs appear.

That way GW get to sell us the 'original' Primarchs through FW. Then the altered Primarchs at the climax of the Heresy through FW and then a third time when they return in 40k. Why blow it all in 5 years when you can spin it out for 15?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Ralis wrote:
It would just snowball from there and soon all the primarchs would be back, including the "Dead" ones.

How is that a problem ?
On the other hand, I am pretty sure Alicia Dominica is not coming back .

& I'm sure Friends is coming back too!

Yeah, expect the next SM dex to have an OP character called the Guillinor...

Well I think FW has shown how Primarchs can work in 40k games, so to that end I don't have anything against it. I just wouldn't want to see GW think they can do things too differently or deviate too much from what FW has done.

I would LOVE this. What Escalation is lacking is Primarchs. There's a few that could come back, Jaghatai Khan [followed some Dark Eldar into the webway or something even though 'Scars' suggests that Mortarion is going to BF him in the future]. Leman Russ [who got emo at a feast and left his chapter]. Really hope we get primarchs in games of 40k, just like they have in 30k.

Wouldn't surprise me. I mean with titans on the field why not? People bought the 30k figures, they should be allowed to use them in games. That's the philosophy right?

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Well, they already have 30k profiles for Primarchs. There's really no reason to not lift them up to 40k, as it doesn't actually change anything in the setting, except for some minor fluff. So the Imperium has a Primarch now, big deal. Chaos has a bunch and it did them no good so far.

I think it would kind of underwhelm the 'ten minutes to midnight' feel that has been the foundation of the 40k setting, rather than it being just a minor fluff change.

We have always read about the 'end times', of when the greatest heroes from both sides would square off against each other in the end of everything. Russ disappearing into the eye of terror etc. and the other Primarchs coming back, Guilliman's 'mortal wound' (because that's how it has always been described) gradually healing in time for this battle, despite such a thing being impossible within the stasis field.

Guilliman coming back wouldn't be ridiculous from a game/rules perspective perhaps, certainly not these days when you already have giant robot pie-plate guns wiping out $100 worth of miniatures on a 2+, but it would un-hinge the atmosphere and character of the setting in terms of background.

On the other hand, it might sell a few plastic kits so I could totally believe the GW of 2014 would do something like it, if one is to view some of the options on the allies chart as a prelude.

Guilliman has been 'healing' since the 2nd Ed Ultramarine Codex. It's just part of the fluff. Bringing him back would be advancing the story, and GW doesn't do that.

Quite.

He is merely 18 months away from making a full recovery.

Unfortunately the setting is permanently at 11.59 on the last day of the last year of the millennium (or something similar) so game wise it will never happen.

Until next year when the figures are down again and they haven't got another Knight to pull out from under their kilts and 8th isn't ready.

Plastic models of ferrus manus with magnetic head to pull off and on. He'll be able to throw his head at opponents and will bounce off them and return to his neck just like captain America's shield.

I'd love it if it finally came to pass, in game, and the story moved forward.

It would be fantastic!

 Absolutionis wrote:
Robot Girlyman isn't dead. He's just in stasis after suffering life-threatening wounds. Bringing him back in a super-Dreadnought or super-CenturionKnightMarineMarine wouldn't be against GW's modus nowadays.

After all, he's a Space Marine, he's a special character, and he's something exploitable from 40k's past. It's the perfect mixture for GW to bring back.

Clearly he will be brought back as a $90 finecast upgrade to turn a Knight titan into a Primarch sized dreadnaught.

GW has always left open the possibility of the majority of primarchs returning. The narrative is VERY clear on this.

However, I don't expect them to bring any primarchs into 40k until the Horus Heresy series is finished (since otherwise they'll be competing with themselves)

TiamatRoar wrote:
GW has always left open the possibility of the majority of primarchs returning. The narrative is VERY clear on this.

However, I don't expect them to bring any primarchs into 40k until the Horus Heresy series is finished (since otherwise they'll be competing with themselves)

*looks at Imperial Knight that was just released.*

umm....

This would signal an interesting turn of events. With the more recent down-swing in profit/share prices, GW is inevitably going to act to try to resolve this situation.

It would seem that, if this rumor is true and the storyline for 40k advances, then GW believes that the route to boosting sales is directly through building hype. The knights are a great example of this, they have really excited quite a few hobbyists on dakka alone. Bringing back guilliman and advancing the story would also generate excitement and, in GW's predictions (presumably), more sales.

The question I would have then would be on the sustainability of this approach. And if I am correct in the hypothesis, I am curious what other sorts of craziness we will be seeing in the future.

Wasn't there a pseudo-once-upon-a-time-quote about how GW would only ever detail the Horus Heresy and/or introduce Primarchs into the game when they were truly desperate and needing a Hail Mary?

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I'm pretty okay with any Primarch coming back. Except Russ. Feth that piece of gak donkey-cave.




Space wolves suck.

You trying to pick a fight with a founding chapter youngster?
OT rowboat coming back is interesting but Alph wants it to be Alpharious or Omegon on the throne.