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Godzilla isn't the setting, he is a force that acts upon that world and causes destruction in his passing. He'd be more akin to the ice berg that hit the titanic, and the ice berg certainly wasn't shown drifting in every scene.
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Been lurking and thought I'd google the term Kaiju to see what it actually means.
I was expecting some kind of size reference but apparently it just means "strange creature". It would be interesting to see some of the themes talked about in the original movies but with a smaller more realistically proportioned monster. I'm thinking maybe Super 8 size at biggest? Although that would probably get away from what a Kaiju film actually is.
My Navy friend from college telling me where he is in the movie:
"I was am extra when they filmed the day after Honolulu got demolished; out in front of the... redecorated Hilton.
When Ford is at the tent trying to find the little boy's parents, I am on the other side of the tent, about 12 feet away. At the last moment before the kids runs off, I am in the background, dressed as an Army soldier; however, you mostly just get a view of my helmet.
Immediately after that you get to see my face. Movie magic teleports me to the group of soldiers that runs by Ford; one guy jumps out and recruits him saying "We're all monster hunters now." I am in the front of the left file, so if you look to the left side of the screen as soon as that scene pops up, you get a complete view of my face and torso before I disappear stage left."
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SF Traffic Sign Hacked To Warn Drivers Of ‘Godzilla Attack’ by Gregg Rosenblum
SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) — A prankster is getting points for creativity after hacking an electronic traffic sign in San Francisco warning of a “Godzilla Attack.”
The sign was spotted on Van Ness Avenue Wednesday night, reading ‘Godzilla Attack – Turn Back.”
The mobile sign was supposed to be warning drivers about traffic delays during Sunday’s Bay to Breakers foot race.
The sign has since been fixed.
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I loved the movie so much I want to see it again in 3d in only a few days of seeing it the first time.
This was also the first movie I've seen on release day in a very long time, and I'm impressed as to how Edwards handled the Mythos.
It felt very much like a Hesei era film with the same weight the 1954 film had, and I look forward to more additions to the Godzilla Mythos by Gareth.
I'd also like to see someone calculate the damage done by the Kaiju in the same manner as the damage estimates for Man of Steel and the Avengers.
I was a little worried about the MUTOs having the second billing rather than a Toho monster, but now the MUTOs are definitely on my top ten favorite Kaiju of all time list.
Pacific Rim was an awesome movie but it just doesn't even rate next to this one, and the 1998 film's sins are more or less completely washed away.
If I were to die today, I would say that I have lived a full life now that I have seen an excellent big budget handling of Godzilla.
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Speaking personally having seen Godzilla this afternoon I liked it a lot. Sure the human element wasn't that great but a lot better than I expected (it is a Godzilla film after all I went in expecting wooden acting and a poor plot) and the basic human stuff was enough to make me sympathise with the characters. I would have liked a little bit more screen time for Godzilla and the MUTOs but the was they were teased throughout did keep me interested. The monster fights when the film got round to them were absolutely spectacular, when Godzilla had the upper hand he was absolutely brutal but the MUTOs weren't exactly gentle either. As for the monsters themselves the MUTOs were a bit cloverfieldy but I think it worked since they were basically giant insects. Godzilla was simply excellent though the film makers captured the essence of the character and updated him nicely.
Spoiler:
How about the atomic breath? That was easily the best version of the big G's iconic weapon I've seen, and it was certainly effective against the female muto.
So yeah I enjoyed it, it was definitely a Godzilla film and not a film about a giant iguana. If a sequel is made I would definitely like to see Godzilla taking on a monster from the original films though.
The MUTOs I was surprised by because they look like a cross between cloverfield monster and Gyaos. I can definitely agree with those who think the design of the monsters was a little lazy. Godzilla looked awesome, but I felt like the MUTOs were kind of just thrown together and then left alone.
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LordofHats wrote: The MUTOs I was surprised by because they look like a cross between cloverfield monster and Gyaos. I can definitely agree with those who think the design of the monsters was a little lazy. Godzilla looked awesome, but I felt like the MUTOs were kind of just thrown together and then left alone.
Eh, I liked them.
I hope when this movie comes out on dvd someone cuts out all the humans.
Supposedly there were about 25 minutes of movie that were cut before the final version was made including a guest appearance by Takashi Shimura (I think that was the actor) from the original film. Maybe will get a directors cut that will make some of the things that made less sense make more sense?
My hope is that we get more sequels. I like Legendaries work overall with Pacific Rim and Godzilla and I'd like to see more. Hopefully they have the ability to improve the weak spots while keeping what was good.
A little more screen time from the monsters and better acting would have made this an even better film.
LordofHats wrote: Supposedly there were about 25 minutes of movie that were cut before the final version was made including a guest appearance by Takashi Shimura (I think that was the actor) from the original film. Maybe will get a directors cut that will make some of the things that made less sense make more sense?
My hope is that we get more sequels. I like Legendaries work overall with Pacific Rim and Godzilla and I'd like to see more. Hopefully they have the ability to improve the weak spots while keeping what was good.
A little more screen time from the monsters and better acting would have made this an even better film.
Many monster movies are ultimately about people more than they are about the monsters
That's not really a valid criticism to me. I've been watching Godzilla for 24 years. Seen every movie. People might have grown acustomed to the smash fests that are the Godzilla franchise, and I like those but they're not high cinema or quality films. They're us indulging out inner child with a 2 hour dose of devastation. It's not the kind of film that really has a message or anything meaningful to say. People might not like this film, but it was trying to be something better than that and I appreciate it.
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Saw last night. Loved it! Plan to go again as I missed the first few minutes but it was that good where I will go again.
Wont give too much up but:
loved the 2-3 (that I cought) references to older Godzille monsters
loved the back to what we do best movie- Im godzilla a monster. you are monster too. Well you suck now Im gonna kick your butt.
1st movie since Star Wars II were the auidence clapped
While having some human element to the film it wasnt over powering like 1998
No lame AAH line like 'Godzilla's pregnant???'
Buy able plot lines
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The one interesting actor dies after having almost no screentime.
I honestly wish I had walked in for the last 20 minutes and left again, it was a frustrating watch.
Same boat as you. I wish I could have fast forward through a lot of it. The human side didn't work so there was no tension really ever.
It was a big step up for summer blockbusters in that the action was much easier to comprehend and the sense of scale was always there.
But really, it was like cloverfield without any sense of perspective, you really don't give a crap about anyone in the movie and that's problem #1.
It could have been a lot worse, the special effects were amazing but I hate using that as a reason for calling any movie with 160 million dollar budget good.
5/10
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They cut off a fight TWICE to show more stuff about humans, and never returned to the fight. If didn't know there was a big fight coming at the end I would've walked out of the place right after they pulled it the second time.
I know the Internet practically DEMANDS hyperbole, but really now.
Saw it, liked it a lot, could have definitely used more Godzilla time but in the end, I thought Godzilla looked great and when he finally busted out the breath weapon?
Awesome.
A couple of questions:
Spoiler:
1) Aircraft carriers are nuclear powered, aren't they?
2) So, Godzilla is the Apex Predator in the Kaiju world, and...that's all he's after?
3) Just what is Godzilla's overall role and motivation?
I hope it does well enough for a sequel - I feel that there would be a lot more Kaiju on Kaiju crime if we get one!
I know the Internet practically DEMANDS hyperbole, but really now.
Saw it, liked it a lot, could have definitely used more Godzilla time but in the end, I thought Godzilla looked great and when he finally busted out the breath weapon?
Awesome.
A couple of questions:
Spoiler:
1) Aircraft carriers are nuclear powered, aren't they?
2) So, Godzilla is the Apex Predator in the Kaiju world, and...that's all he's after?
3) Just what is Godzilla's overall role and motivation?
I hope it does well enough for a sequel - I feel that there would be a lot more Kaiju on Kaiju crime if we get one!
No hyperbole from me. Me and my girlfriend we're both fuming when they cut off after his scream.
1) Aircraft carriers are nuclear powered, aren't they?
Yes. It is bizarre when you think about it, as a nuclear missile probably isn't putting out much radiation compared to the reactors on carriers and nuclear subs.They could have had an awesome scene where the MUTOs attack a carrier group and rip a reactor right out of the carrier. Instead we get to follow Ford's cross country adventure @_@
2) So, Godzilla is the Apex Predator in the Kaiju world, and...that's all he's after?
The difference between the creatures to me seems to be that while they all thrive on radiation, the MUTO's might be hunting for more because they're breeding. Godzilla might be content to just hand out in the ocean and absorbed whatever ambient radiation comes by. I figured he went after the MUTO's because they were on his turf and he didn't appreciate it. Something as big as Godzilla with no rivals must have huge range.
3) Just what is Godzilla's overall role and motivation?
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So far the box office looks promising. It's set to be in the same field as Spider Man 2 and Captain America.
Loved it, going to see it again tonight. I grew up watching Godzilla, seen every movie multiple times and I have to say I have very few complaints on the entire thing.
Like has been stated multiple times, the human characters didn't do much for me in way of caring what happened to them.
Spoiler:
Was a bit a annoyed about the one character that died because I thought they were in it for the movie which I think would have been better.
Loved Godzilla's look and didn't mind the MUTOs. Still not sure how I feel about the roar, someone pointed out that on a realistic level humans wouldn't be able to hear it properly but I was still hoping they'd work it out somehow.
Spoiler:
Can't tell you how ecstatically happy I was when I saw those spines start to glow in the dust cloud because I had given up hope he'd use his breath weapon. Also, did anyone else catch the MUTO's roar? I swear I heard an element of Anguirus's roar mixed in but I might have been fooling myself.
No matter what, I still loved it and I really do hope there's a sequel. I think I read on wiki or an interview that the director wants to do a sequel that uses the "Monster Island" element from Destroy All Monsters so I imagine we'd definitely see more Kaiju in that.
2) So, Godzilla is the Apex Predator in the Kaiju world, and...that's all he's after?
3) Just what is Godzilla's overall role and motivation?
I hope it does well enough for a sequel - I feel that there would be a lot more Kaiju on Kaiju crime if we get one!
Spoiler:
2) They implied that ancient earth was flooded by radiation, Kaijus which fed off radiation basically stabilized the planet for other species to take root. So there was probably a large rise of such creatures, then as food supplies fell, scarcity of food which resulted in a arms race and territory dispute. This would make the world of Godzilla like highlander, that there can be only one and to extend his own life, he would want as little threat to his territory as possible, and a monopoly on his own food supply which is radiation from the earth's core.
3) Any threat to his safety, food supply or territory would justify him. This means any large creatures which could harm him need to GO. Anything which is going to compete for his food has got to GO. They also implied he is there to keep nature balanced. He may simply like how the earth is right now and would resist any other creature's attempt to change the planet via radioactivity outside what it is. So his personal wants and preferences simply seem to co-incide with most of the life on earth where the MUTOS and other Kaijus may be perfectly content with overwhelming radioactivity like the days of old.
As I watch the Godzilla marathon on chiller, almost every baddie is from outer space. Basically Kaijus could be the normal evolution of the universe and are a protospecies designed to clean up the natural radiation of environments to bring on 'the next round of species'. So that is why you would find space-born Kaijus who would be naturally drawn to earth as humanity screws around with nuclear weapons... Godzilla can't have that so he would be very motivated to protect himself, his food supply and his preference in maintaining his current eco system... And it just happens us humans have a vested interest in Godzilla maintaining his preferred eco-system cuz we live in it. While Humanity is always trying to get rid of Godzilla or contain him because we are not so cool with his city stomping tendencies, he is not usually interested in wiping us off the face of the planet (unless you subscribe to the WWII punishment angles) and without him, we would be screwed when the next space whatever shows up.
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Yes, Aircraft carriers are nuclear powered. So are most modern subs. Nuclear reactors use a combination of U-235 & Pu-239 for generating power, weapons grade uranium is U-238 which is a refined material. Sort of like how cocaine is a synthesized version of coca, it has properties that only occur in the enriched version. U-235 generates a more controlled release of energy, U-238 is uncontrolled so it produces the big bangs. So in theory the mutos would probably be drawn to it over standard earth contained radiation or even more then what's used in power plants.
I was kind of scratching my head as to why Godzilla wouldn't go after the carrier, but he largely ignored it (and has also ignored subs in past films) I came away thinking that perhaps he isn't concerned with feeding on those sources and possibly hunts the Mutos for food, destroying human radiation sources would help remove the Mutos collection points so they can't over populate too quickly?
He also seems to largely ignore the nuclear weapons, outside of knowing it attracts the Mutos
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Actually, I believe that reactors actually put out very little ambient radiation due to the large amount of shielding put in place. Warship reactors likely have extra ablative radiation shielding.
Thus, a monster who is attracted to radiation would likely detect very little radiation from the reactor of a nuclear reactor that hasn't been compromised.
But it is true that a nuclear warhead would give off very little radiation, and only in the immediate vicinity. You'd basically need to be next to it to detect anything substantial.
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There's shielding, plus the Pu-239 aka carbon rods absorbs much of the reaction (turning it into Pu-240) The process generates lots of heat which boils the water and powers the steam turbines.
However there's also lots of shielding at a nuclear plant and waste disposal sites so their radiation signature would be very minimal as well, likely even less then what the ships would have.
It might have something to do with the rate at which the materials convert into energy, 235 is a controlled reaction so it could be like a slow release carb, 238 would be a fast release stimulant like sugar. (or cocaine)
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